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(13,628 posts)Gore1FL
(21,164 posts)IT sounds like not even that is happening.
nebby70
(471 posts)... he's always been a piece of work even back 'in the day'
self inflated and self serving
Ninga
(8,282 posts)I trust David Corns reporting
JoanofArgh
(14,971 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,240 posts)hlthe2b
(102,487 posts)Just sayin...
TheBlackAdder
(28,240 posts)Salviati
(6,009 posts)If he's acting like this because he wants to be the important figure, then switching would be counterproductive.
TDale313
(7,820 posts)But do I think hes using the threat as leverage? Absolutely. It benefits him to have this floating out there.
there are a lot of ifs and unknowns in that article
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,133 posts)Not quite to 1.75T, but it's much closer.
Celerity
(43,670 posts)$3.5 trillion to 3 to 2.3 to 2.2 to 2.1 to 2 to 1.9 to $1.75 trillion.
Manchin has not budged an inch. He said $1 trillion was his true wish, but he was going to 'compromise' to $1.5. He has not moved.
ATM, I see the most we will get is $1.75 trillion and many programmes completely or near completely ripped out.
Sinema also presents a huge problem, as HER wants are some of the biggest revenue raisers. The hundreds of billions in savings from the prescription drug price piece will be gone, plus she is fighting for far less tax increases on corporations and the rich.
Coal and Curtsy pincer movement of wreckage.
C_U_L8R
(45,030 posts)Thats what bullshit looks like.
Johnny2X2X
(19,253 posts)Sinema is a bigger risk to do so. And at worst, Manchin would become an independent but still caucus with Dems. Sinema is the wildcard, no idea what makes her tick.
UTUSN
(70,777 posts)hlthe2b
(102,487 posts)uhh huh. Gotcha, Joe.
We'll never know, but I have often wondered if RFK had lived and won the WH, if the trajectory for West Virginians (and Appalachian politicos) might have been different.
Xolodno
(6,409 posts)You lose the war chest of the political party. Unless the Republicans promised to fund him and not aid anyone trying to unseat him. Just like Lieberman.
keithbvadu2
(37,000 posts)Some people worry that Manchin will become a Republican. In the current balance of parties, that will not happen. He would switch parties only if the Democrats have a large majority or the Republicans have a large majority. He is in a maximum position of power right now and he knows it. The Democrats have to kiss his ass to keep him. If he switches parties he will become just-another-Republican.
At present, he is a 'loyal' Democrat.
Crataegus
(60 posts)He had this released. It's all about money and power.
MFM008
(19,827 posts)Is his coal sucking career.