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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,972 posts)
Fri Oct 22, 2021, 05:37 PM Oct 2021

TFG wants the National Archives to keep his papers away from investigators - post-Watergate laws and

executive orders may not let him

The National Archives is the United States’ memory, a repository of artifacts that includes everything from half-forgotten correspondence to the paper trails that document the days of the country’s life. The National Archives contains such items as bureaucratic correspondence, patents and captured German records. It holds Eva Braun’s diary and photographs of child labor conditions at the turn of the 19th century.

Most of the time, the National Archives goes on with its work with little attention. But right now it is at the center of a political fight about the public’s access to the papers of former President Donald Trump.

That battle is being fought by Trump against President Joe Biden and the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection. The legislators want to see Trump administration records that are housed in the National Archives, Biden has said the archives should provide them – and Trump has sued the committee and the archives to stop the papers from being divulged to Congress.

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In 1974, the Presidential Recordings and Materials Preservation Act was enacted to prevent the destruction of President Richard Nixon’s materials in the wake of the Watergate scandal. In 1978, passage of the Presidential Records Act settled the question of ownership over presidential records: They were the property of the American public. As soon as a president leaves office, all records move immediately to the custody of the national archivist.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-wants-national-archives-keep-123857309.html
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TFG wants the National Archives to keep his papers away from investigators - post-Watergate laws and (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2021 OP
They are not his papers, they belong to the American people. Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #1
While they may only be....... MyOwnPeace Oct 2021 #2
He's hoping the Supreme Court overturns those laws. onenote Oct 2021 #9
Guess Vlad didn't explain this part. lindysalsagal Oct 2021 #3
The orange F wad keeps forgetting he is not Putin. Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #4
TFG probably doesn't realize what really happened to the stuff Delmette2.0 Oct 2021 #5
He ripped up his papers every day & every night there were people taping them up... Hekate Oct 2021 #6
Reagan told us in the New Hampshire primary debates, 1980 bucolic_frolic Oct 2021 #7
TFG attempted to hide his misdeeds from public scrutiny in many ways. Snarkoleptic Oct 2021 #8

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
2. While they may only be.......
Fri Oct 22, 2021, 06:02 PM
Oct 2021

crayon drawings and doodles with 'Sharpies' - the American public has a right to see what they are - it was part of his 'job' and we are entitled to give a 'performance review." (although 81 million people have already given their 'performance review.' )

onenote

(42,700 posts)
9. He's hoping the Supreme Court overturns those laws.
Fri Oct 22, 2021, 07:26 PM
Oct 2021

While they were upheld in Nixon v. GSA in 1977, Rehnquist and Burger dissented. Don't rule out a majority of the current Court agreeing with the Rehnquist/Burger position.

Delmette2.0

(4,165 posts)
5. TFG probably doesn't realize what really happened to the stuff
Fri Oct 22, 2021, 06:35 PM
Oct 2021

he tore up or shredded. That alone has kept several people busy and employed.

Hekate

(90,677 posts)
6. He ripped up his papers every day & every night there were people taping them up...
Fri Oct 22, 2021, 06:48 PM
Oct 2021

So, whatever his staff managed to save from the wastebasket should be in the National Archives.

TFG is such a jerk.

bucolic_frolic

(43,158 posts)
7. Reagan told us in the New Hampshire primary debates, 1980
Fri Oct 22, 2021, 06:58 PM
Oct 2021

"I paid for this microphone!"

Well, American taxpayers paid for those papers, and paid TFG's salary, and paid for his upkeep, and WE, the American people, own those papers. Period. Full stop.

Snarkoleptic

(5,997 posts)
8. TFG attempted to hide his misdeeds from public scrutiny in many ways.
Fri Oct 22, 2021, 07:19 PM
Oct 2021

Tearing things into tiny bits-
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/10/trump-papers-filing-system-635164

Armed with rolls of clear Scotch tape, Lartey and his colleagues would sift through large piles of shredded paper and put them back together, he said, “like a jigsaw puzzle.” Sometimes the papers would just be split down the middle, but other times they would be torn into pieces so small they looked like confetti.

It was a painstaking process that was the result of a clash between legal requirements to preserve White House records and President Donald Trump’s odd and enduring habit of ripping up papers when he’s done with them — what some people described as his unofficial “filing system.”

Under the Presidential Records Act, the White House must preserve all memos, letters, emails and papers that the president touches, sending them to the National Archives for safekeeping as historical records.


And eating bits of paper to avoid scrutiny-
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-ate-sensitive-document-after-cohen-meeting-former-white-house-aide-1069399

Former White House aide Omarosa Manigault Newman has said she walked in on President Donald Trump eating paper after a meeting with lawyer Michael Cohen, in what she believed was an effort to destroy sensitive information.

In her new book—Unhinged: An Insider Account of the Trump White House—Newman makes a series of disturbing, and amusing, allegations about the president's conduct.

According to an excerpt of the book obtained by The Washington Post, Newman recalls, "I saw him put a note in his mouth. Since Trump was ever the germaphobe, I was shocked he appeared to be chewing and swallowing the paper. It must have been something very, very sensitive."
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