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theres no other side of this story 4 future history teachers to balance. All they can do is try to explain how so many Americans became enthralled&bewitched by self-centeredness&racism. You seem to think UncleSam is a sacred being,&Trump is his prophet
When old friends choose MAGA over morality its time to say goodbye.
Ironically, it was Facebook ( of all places ) that shined the light of truth.
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3:50 PM · Oct 23, 2021
https://writings-with-james-stephens.medium.com/maga-good-bye-old-friends-9d2d1eadc6d6
Im not sorry.
Im not sorry that our Facebook posts about the pandemic ended our friendship.
I grieve, but Im not sorry.
Your posts are the evidence I didnt want but needed.
You arent the person I thought you were.
It turns out much of what I thought we had in common was only superficially true. The ties that bind werent holding anything together. It appeared that way because nothing ever tested us until recently.
Trump and Covid have laid bare the truth.
I see a blessing in that.
*snip*
Mary in S. Carolina
(1,364 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,034 posts)And deliberately put others at risk.
dalton99a
(81,485 posts)Especially selfish AND stupid people who want to commit suicide
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Evolve Dammit
(16,725 posts)If that's who you are, stay the fuck away from me and I will do likewise. I will also defend and vote for anyone who wants to take a stand on the events of 1/6 and leading up to it. And suppressing info and promoting mis-info that led to approaching 1 million Americans to lose their lives. There needs to be accountability and we know where the justice needs to fall.
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,725 posts)latch onto a fascist movement is pretty fucking dangerous. we've only (only) lost 675,000 to put it in perspective.
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czarjak
(11,274 posts)PatrickforB
(14,573 posts)GoodRaisin
(8,922 posts)Not so much facebook, which I would never tolerate a Maga poster anyway. But with real life friends that showed me their ugly side, it was an instant elephant in the room for me.
childfreebychoice
(476 posts)B cus friend kept spewing right-wing lies about hrc, then voted third party. He is black, and gay...no friends in the rethug party. As if that weren't bad enuf, after he saw how bad t* was, he became expat.
Poiuyt
(18,123 posts)electric_blue68
(14,891 posts)about the Globfather after he went ex-pat? Did he finally dennounce him?
A HERETIC I AM
(24,368 posts)After he angrily told me that We are Trump Voters!
I thought I knew him better than that, but I was wrong.
I still communicate with his wife, but he and I havent spoken since before the 16 election
John Ludi
(589 posts)over Trump...and another chunk over Covid.
It's probably a good thing that a lot of my sentimentality has faded as I've gotten older...I'd be a lot sadder over it than I am.
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)Ziggysmom
(3,407 posts)who are going to lift you higher". Magats will only pull you down to their level.
It's very difficult to step away from relationships where you have known some of these friends or colleagues for a long time. But its essential not to feel obligated to idiots, racists and liars. Surround yourself with good people and you'll be happier & healthier
OMGWTF
(3,955 posts)It's life-changing and I recommend it highly.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)am certain they talk about us stupid Democrats behind our back.. who needs that crap...
in my case, this also applies to some family members.
Wounded Bear
(58,649 posts)and I fear for my grandsons.
Hekate
(90,674 posts)I was always politically active, always believed in public health measures, but finally had to make it clear to her that I will not discuss any of what is so important to me with her. How did I get this across? A screaming phone conversation, in which I kept repeating, I will not discuss science with you, at ever increasing decibel levels.
I want peace, and I want some access to the kids, who live an hour and a half away. So I am doing what I can.
For the longest time I was too ashamed to admit to anyone that my own daughter is an anti-vaxxer, but one thing the COVID pandemic has made clear is just how many families are being riven by culture wars that have turned against facts in general and science in particular.
We are not alone I wish you all the best.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)people of our former social circles. She says it so well.
In the beginning, before the depravity became so profound, we regretted some lost friends who were important to us, hoping that someday divisions would dissolve enough that we could come together enough to share memories, Christmas cards. We no longer do. Whatever we and they once thought they were, they were not those people and never will be.
As for others we had a lot of fun with, that was possible because relationships were shallow, what we thought we had in common "only superficially true."
Looking back, I realize they knew before we did. We didn't know what they were hiding as it developed until it broke out in open antagonism, and over time in abandonment of every ideal we thought they had. Now, in a reverse, we know more about them than they are aware of themselves.
Good ridddance to them with regret only for relationships that should have been but never were. Our circles are smaller now after the painful housecleanings so many have experienced, but it had to be and we're all glad to have each other.
mountain grammy
(26,620 posts)his brother hung up on him. They haven't spoken since. I've talked to my sister in law a few times. She's really not very bright, but God "has everything" and she's all in for trump. We don't talk about it. When your family aligns with Nazis, they're not your family anymore.
Paladin
(28,255 posts)End any friendships you have with these ugly people, immediately. It's what they deserve.
StarryNite
(9,444 posts)People come into your life for a reason, a season or a lifetime.
When you figure out which one it is,
you will know what to do for each person.
When someone is in your life for a REASON,
it is usually to meet a need you have expressed.
They have come to assist you through a difficulty;
to provide you with guidance and support;
to aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually.
They may seem like a godsend, and they are.
They are there for the reason you need them to be.
Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient time,
this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end.
Sometimes they die. Sometimes they walk away.
Sometimes they act up and force you to take a stand.
What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled; their work is done.
The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.
Some people come into your life for a SEASON,
because your turn has come to share, grow or learn.
They bring you an experience of peace or make you laugh.
They may teach you something you have never done.
They usually give you an unbelievable amount of joy.
Believe it. It is real. But only for a season.
LIFETIME relationships teach you lifetime lessons;
things you must build upon in order to have a solid emotional foundation.
Your job is to accept the lesson, love the person,
and put what you have learned to use in all other relationships and areas of your life.
It is said that love is blind but friendship is clairvoyant.
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hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)Thanks for sharing. Its so true!
Poiuyt
(18,123 posts)I always knew he was conservative, but we respected each other and stayed away from certain subjects. That ended with Covid. I was feeling quite bad about ending our friendship, but I felt better once I realized that people who deny covid, won't wear a mask, or won't get vaccinated were behaving in a manner that I just can't accept. Their selfishness is inexcusable. I was having trouble rationalizing things at first, but I understand my feelings better now and know that I made the right decision.
Initech
(100,068 posts)Is that it's shown us just how many truly awful people walk among us. Trump is the president of, by, and for Facebook trolls.
AllyCat
(16,186 posts)FB for about a year when the pandemic hit. I use it now for talking to some family members, a few friends Ive made as an adult, and some high school friends that have moved away. I stay out of political discussions.
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Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)I've been playing with most of these guys for over 40 years, and taking their money along the way. So when I proposed that whoever brings up politics on the course automatically gives the other players the option of doubling the bet, it was a win-win.
They usually keep it zipped, but when they can't help themselves, it costs them.
More often than not, we now head to the clubhouse afterward, enjoy a few beers, and talk sports.
traitorsgalore
(1,396 posts)and to some like me, as bad as it sounds, the other blessing in that is the covidiot traitors die.
Skittles
(153,160 posts)just TALKING to them will do it
wouldn't be hard to find out their thoughts on the pandemic, either
The Wizard
(12,545 posts)because they're immoral and stupid. Stupid people will get you into trouble. Avoid contact with them.
elias7
(3,998 posts)OldBaldy1701E
(5,126 posts)But, these days the term 'friend' is used to easily that it is not difficult to find oneself latched onto a person that used the word, but has no idea what it really means. Add to that the general practice of invoking the word in the name of business, and one can see why we use it all the time, but seldom understand what it is supposed to represent. Having had to learn the hard way about a few former 'friends', I can relate very well to this post. But, even though I did shed a tear, I quickly dried it up because my life is way better now that I know they were not a friend, just an acquaintance that I had things in common with. It is a hard lesson, but one that will serve you well later on.
brewens
(13,582 posts)with any COVIDiots if I can avoid it. Would you trust the food at a restaurant owned and or operated by someone that refused to take common sense precautions during a deadly pandemic? Do they think hepatitis is a hoax too? Not risking it.
Dukkha
(7,341 posts)Because it's a totally impossible task and waste of time
One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If weve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. Were no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. Its simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that weve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.
― Carl Sagan
OMGWTF
(3,955 posts)I appreciate her showing me what her real values are and saving me the trouble of divorcing her myself. I have many good friends who aren't in a fascistic death cult.