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Cyrano

(15,035 posts)
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 02:22 PM Oct 2021

Is Facebook owner Mark Zuckerberg guilty of world-wide murder?

It's not an accusation, it's a question. -- One that goes to the heart of what we define as "civilization."

Facebook is and has been a "front page" story for quite a while now. There are many people, in many countries, who think Facebook is eating away at civilized behavior and that it is even responsible for countless deaths.

I guess the question is, "Does an unregulated public platform, open to all, wipe away the rules of civilization?" And if it does, is Mark Zuckerberg, the founder/owner of Facebook, guilty of mass civil unrest and mass murder? (He makes all the rules regarding what can and can't be said on Facebook.)

I really don't kow if Zuckerberg is "legally" answerable to humanity. But I'd like to hear your opinion.

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Is Facebook owner Mark Zuckerberg guilty of world-wide murder? (Original Post) Cyrano Oct 2021 OP
Like Facebook or not Sherman A1 Oct 2021 #1
You would really need to add Rupert Murdoch to that list too ... and others IMO. A long list ... n/t RKP5637 Oct 2021 #2
Have learned that calling GOPers "white wing" will get you flagged on FB. Hoyt Oct 2021 #3
Are you serious? LiberatedUSA Oct 2021 #10
As much as Jeff Bezos HipChick Oct 2021 #4
You mean like genocide? MineralMan Oct 2021 #5
Genocide? Gas Chambers? Nazis? Really? Cyrano Oct 2021 #8
Well, "world-wide murder" would be genocide, no? MineralMan Oct 2021 #9
+1 Xoan Oct 2021 #11
Evil Corp is a big problem, the charge wouldn't hold up in court. sarcasmo Oct 2021 #6
No. Ron Obvious Oct 2021 #7
Facebook has done a lot of damage, yes. AngryOldDem Oct 2021 #12
"Does an unregulated public platform, open to all, wipe away the rules of civilization?" Yes! sop Oct 2021 #13
Was Johannes Gutenberg? Sympthsical Oct 2021 #14
Gotta' agree with Cyrano Oct 2021 #15

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
2. You would really need to add Rupert Murdoch to that list too ... and others IMO. A long list ... n/t
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 02:34 PM
Oct 2021
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. Have learned that calling GOPers "white wing" will get you flagged on FB.
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 02:45 PM
Oct 2021

No, don’t think Zuck is responsible for anything beyond paying reasonable taxes.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
4. As much as Jeff Bezos
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 02:49 PM
Oct 2021

could be held responsible for anything running on amazon servers..

Covered by Terms and Conditions..

huge reach. but nope

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
5. You mean like genocide?
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 02:50 PM
Oct 2021

Well, no, not really. In fact, I think the DOJ would be hard-pressed to find any crime to charge him with.

Are we suddenly going to start grabbing people and locking them up without trials? Someone else here suggested "gas chambers" for some other folks.

We are not fascists. We are not Nazis. Unless you can define some actual crime of which Mark Zuckerberg might be guilty, what you suggest is pretty darned ugly, and reminds me of some very bad times in human history.

Please keep in mind that you asked for opinions. That's mine.

Cyrano

(15,035 posts)
8. Genocide? Gas Chambers? Nazis? Really?
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 02:58 PM
Oct 2021

Sorry, MM, but that's a bit over the edge.

Yes, I asked for opinions, but there's really a limit. After all, I didn't say anything about cannibalism, but why not add that to the list?

C'mon, gimme a break.

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
9. Well, "world-wide murder" would be genocide, no?
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 03:01 PM
Oct 2021

That's the question you asked.

In another thread, someone suggested that Koch and Murdoch be sent to the gas chamber.

Yes, there is a limit here, or should be one.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
12. Facebook has done a lot of damage, yes.
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 03:05 PM
Oct 2021

Especially in third world countries like Myanmar, where FB is the main source of news and pro-government infiltrators use it to justify genocide of minority populations. On a micro level FB is a good tool for keeping in touch, but on a macro level, by its business model and use of platforms, it’s toxic. See 2016 here.

For a good examination of FB, I recommend “Zucked” by former business advisor Roger McNamee. One impression I was left with after reading is that Zuckerberg just doesn’t give a damn how Facebook is used, as long as it generates profits for him. Pretty par for the course, though, in this business climate.

sop

(10,177 posts)
13. "Does an unregulated public platform, open to all, wipe away the rules of civilization?" Yes!
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 03:06 PM
Oct 2021

I suspect in a few years most in polite society will look back on this era of unregulated social media and wonder how we ever allowed it to happen. One would think the installation of a fascist imbecile, followed by a bloody insurrection, would have forced people to come to their senses.

I recall cigarette CEOs testifying under oath before Congress not that many years ago, claiming smoking didn't cause cancer. I think we're at that same point in history today, when Facebook's Zuckerberg and Twitter's Dorsey can sit before congressional committees, openly denying their products' destructive effects on societal norms.

Sympthsical

(9,073 posts)
14. Was Johannes Gutenberg?
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 03:21 PM
Oct 2021

The European medieval wars of religion didn't get really raring until people were more easily able to spread their pesky ideas with the printing press.

The problem isn't Facebook. It's just our convenient whipping boy. Easier to blame one man or company than realize humans are irresponsibly stupid on the Internet. And instead of taking any responsibility for our use of it, we just go after whoever our boogeyman of the week is.

Blaming FB is far easier than blaming our own irresponsible use of what has been given us.

Cyrano

(15,035 posts)
15. Gotta' agree with
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 06:20 PM
Oct 2021

that the human species is flawed and fucked up in many ways.

Anyone who realizes this would never supply humanity with weapons. But as it turns out, Facebook has shown us that, very often, "the keyboard is (really) mightier than the sword).

Imagine a world without Facebook, Fox "news," and so many other avenues through which humanity can damage/destroy itself. It might not be paradise, but at least the venom called hatred wouldn't constantly be pumped into the mix.

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