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Keeping teeth in your mouth as you grow old should not be a luxury in this country. (Original Post) Uncle Joe Oct 2021 OP
My cousin visited from Germany three years ago Woodswalker Oct 2021 #1
Ain't America grand? Nt XanaDUer2 Oct 2021 #2
Great again? LakeArenal Oct 2021 #12
The eternal question Diamond_Dog Oct 2021 #3
Yes, they vote for emotional reasons, and the facebook and other propaganda is fear and anger ShazamIam Oct 2021 #4
Simple. They've been duped. KPN Oct 2021 #5
Hear Hear! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Oct 2021 #16
The average American piddyprints Oct 2021 #8
That is so true! Diamond_Dog Oct 2021 #21
I've heard that one to many samplegirl Oct 2021 #39
He probably has huge earwax buildup, too. dchill Oct 2021 #27
To own libs, of course. LakeArenal Oct 2021 #13
Culture wars keep them fired up Martin Eden Oct 2021 #25
Agree... If you are not part of the 1%... why vote like one? nt mitch96 Oct 2021 #26
So many have never been outside their little circles luv2fly Oct 2021 #32
I'm 72. I'll be working until at least 2025 to pay off my 401k for the money I borrowed to pay off NBachers Oct 2021 #6
At least you had the means to get them replaced. I am down past the halfway point. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Oct 2021 #17
Yes, being able come up with the money one way or another is something a lot of people can't do. ShazzieB Oct 2021 #34
Exactly. OldBaldy1701E Oct 2021 #38
That's a LOT of money. Dammit! We should at least be on par with Solvenia. But we're not. We are Evolve Dammit Oct 2021 #29
We have a piddyprints Oct 2021 #7
They are only given minimal coverage on some medicare plans Meowmee Oct 2021 #15
Dental and vision sucks everywhere these days. Demsrule86 Oct 2021 #18
Where is he today? George II Oct 2021 #9
In your kitchen SaintLouisBlues Oct 2021 #10
On the Democratic Party bandwagon speaking up for Hortensis Oct 2021 #11
Neither should getting glasses, hearing aids Meowmee Oct 2021 #14
I need 6 caps MFM008 Oct 2021 #19
The dirty little secret LittleGirl Oct 2021 #20
Well, actually... not at any age (n/t) MissMillie Oct 2021 #22
So submit a bill that does just that with nothing else added. oldsoftie Oct 2021 #23
My Dentist Of Decades DallasNE Oct 2021 #24
All the corporate entities want control and price fixing, denial of benefits, increased deductibles Evolve Dammit Oct 2021 #31
You're absolutely right. Keeping teeth in your mouth as you grow old should ... demosurvivor Oct 2021 #28
How dare Americans... Xoan Oct 2021 #30
That the head is not part of the rest of the body is ridiculous luv2fly Oct 2021 #33
i totally get your drift--and i love it; i don't believe that ever occurred to me to think orleans Oct 2021 #35
Eyes, teeth, AND ears. ShazzieB Oct 2021 #36
I hope people are listening, because the media isn't doing much of a job of communicating this. JudyM Oct 2021 #37
100% in support of this. DiamondShark Oct 2021 #40
 

Woodswalker

(549 posts)
1. My cousin visited from Germany three years ago
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 04:11 PM
Oct 2021

He said to me with his heavy German accent, Vhy are zo many people here with teeth missing. When I told him he just gave me a blank stare

ShazamIam

(2,570 posts)
4. Yes, they vote for emotional reasons, and the facebook and other propaganda is fear and anger
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 05:02 PM
Oct 2021

distrust, and rage as the solution.

piddyprints

(14,642 posts)
8. The average American
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 05:12 PM
Oct 2021

“isn’t into politics.” They really don’t care what’s going on as long as they’re ok. If they’re not ok, they blame the current President... but only if the President is a Democrat. (Thanks, Fox and FB!). Doesn’t matter who’s in control of Congress, because they don’t understand how things actually work.

I know someone who never votes for President. But he hates Biden because the economy sucks. Proof? His wife got laid off. End of story. So he wants TFG back. He does not watch Fox. He just doesn’t want to hear facts or that President Biden has actually saved the economy.

Diamond_Dog

(31,989 posts)
21. That is so true!
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 05:44 PM
Oct 2021

Or else they’re just too lazy to learn anything about how politics and our country works, so they just shrug and say “Both sides are corrupt.”

luv2fly

(2,475 posts)
32. So many have never been outside their little circles
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 07:22 PM
Oct 2021

They know no other cultures or people or places and are just so damn ignorant.

NBachers

(17,108 posts)
6. I'm 72. I'll be working until at least 2025 to pay off my 401k for the money I borrowed to pay off
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 05:07 PM
Oct 2021

my $58,000 bill for my complete implants and teeth.

Am I glad I got ’em? Sure! But it’s sure dipping into my retirement cushion. At this point, I’m hoping I live long enough to pay myself back. At least my skeleton will have nice gleaming teeth a hundred years from now.

ShazzieB

(16,389 posts)
34. Yes, being able come up with the money one way or another is something a lot of people can't do.
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 08:22 PM
Oct 2021

Ask me how I know.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,126 posts)
38. Exactly.
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 07:58 AM
Oct 2021

Hell, being able to come up with it by any means necessary is beyond a sizeable percentage of the population in this country.

(We really need the philosophy of IDIC these days, let me tell you...)

Evolve Dammit

(16,725 posts)
29. That's a LOT of money. Dammit! We should at least be on par with Solvenia. But we're not. We are
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 07:04 PM
Oct 2021

slaves to the 1% who own it all.

piddyprints

(14,642 posts)
7. We have a
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 05:07 PM
Oct 2021

Medicare advantage plan that covers eyes and teeth… sort of.

Single vision reading glasses might be covered well enough, but nothing close to what you need for bifocals, transitions, etc. At least the exam is covered, but with a copay. Fortunately, we buy a separate VSP policy. If Medicare did that, it would be awesome!

The dental is excellent. But there seems to be no uniformity in the way these plans cover things, or even what’s offered in different areas.

I haven’t tried the hearing benefit. They did tell me that I can get a free screening. But then what? Does anyone cover hearing aids?

Bernie is on to something, no doubt about it. I’m appalled that not one Republican can muster some humanity to support expansion. Hell, I’m appalled that it’s such a hard sell for all 50 Democrats!

BTW, we went for an advantage plan mostly because there is no out of pocket limit with traditional Medicare… unless that’s changed since we joined. That alone scares the shit out of me and is something that should be addressed.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
15. They are only given minimal coverage on some medicare plans
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 05:28 PM
Oct 2021

Coscto has the best prices. Their own brand is 1399 for a 5000 hearing aid.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
14. Neither should getting glasses, hearing aids
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 05:26 PM
Oct 2021

Or many other numerous health needs. I suspect they are going to get more of the same.

MFM008

(19,808 posts)
19. I need 6 caps
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 05:40 PM
Oct 2021

And 3 fillings. One large filling falls out all the time and
I put it back in. Chances are zero of getting anything fixed just pulled. Medicaid will only pull them that's it.
Im 62.

LittleGirl

(8,287 posts)
20. The dirty little secret
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 05:41 PM
Oct 2021

Is that medical care here covers things below the neck. Never the head, it seems.

oldsoftie

(12,533 posts)
23. So submit a bill that does just that with nothing else added.
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 05:50 PM
Oct 2021

I've suggested this before; when we have a program that almost everyone wants, why not just prepare a bill that deals only with THAT issue? What kills many of these programs is adding things that may NOT be so popular.

Same with negotiating drug prices; submit a bill that only deals with that. Make members show their votes for or against it.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
24. My Dentist Of Decades
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 06:01 PM
Oct 2021

Decided about 12-15 years ago to drop out of all networks because the networks would not pay what he thought his work was worth. At first insurance would pay half so I could live with it. Then the insurance stopped paying anything. The problem also is the slow eroding of former benefits. We see similar problems with annual increases in Social Security benefits where "chained indexing" is used for the inflation adjustment. That covers at most half of actual inflation. That is so we can have more tax cuts for the billionaires. It is how trickle down works.

Evolve Dammit

(16,725 posts)
31. All the corporate entities want control and price fixing, denial of benefits, increased deductibles
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 07:10 PM
Oct 2021

and co-pays. It gets worse every damn year. They force the physicians to "participate" and be "in network" with various tiers of care depending on who is a "preferred provider." It is truly designed to fuck the consumer and take as much money from your wallet, 401 or wherever. They don't care, they will just turn you over to their "collection agencies" to hound you to the end of time and virtually no humans are involved. It's all automated, robo-call harassment. I really hate where we have gone.

 

demosurvivor

(42 posts)
28. You're absolutely right. Keeping teeth in your mouth as you grow old should ...
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 06:50 PM
Oct 2021

Last edited Sun Oct 24, 2021, 07:42 PM - Edit history (1)

30K per arch? Yep, that's what it costs at Clear Choice. It's ridiculous. Most seniors can't afford this, so you know where this goes. No teeth to eat with. Bernie has the right idea, but there is no way in hell the government will pay for this. Even snap on dentures cost 12K. Insurance sucks. There is no way on hell any of this will finally be addressed before I die(I'm in my 60's). The weird part. Many families have had messed up teeth from birth. And we all know how that ends up. I don't care how many times you brush/floss those teeth daily.

This problem will never go away, and it will continue to be a luxury to have teeth til the day you die. Ya better start saving now. The price goes up every year.

luv2fly

(2,475 posts)
33. That the head is not part of the rest of the body is ridiculous
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 07:26 PM
Oct 2021

Whoever pulled eyes and teeth out of general medical care a long time ago was a real bastard.

I'm sure that is a somewhat naive comment but you get my drift.

orleans

(34,051 posts)
35. i totally get your drift--and i love it; i don't believe that ever occurred to me to think
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 08:38 PM
Oct 2021

that someone had that stupid idea to begin with and now i'm wondering where it came from

it was worth tweeting about




@SenSanders "That the head is not part of the rest of the body is ridiculous. Whoever pulled eyes and teeth out of general medical care a long time ago was a real bastard." -luv2fly on democraticunderground

(well said, luv2fly! thank you)

ShazzieB

(16,389 posts)
36. Eyes, teeth, AND ears.
Sun Oct 24, 2021, 08:39 PM
Oct 2021

I agree 100% with your comment, but wanted to add that.

I think it's absolutely ridiculous that vision, hearing, and dental care are not covered by most HEALTH CARE coverage. Who gets to decide that those things are not as much a part of my HEALTH as other parts of my body?

The things that they choose not to cover are really arbitrary. For example, I'm being treated for an eye problem that IS covered by my health insurance. But when they do a refraction test (the one where they show you letters in different sizes and ask you which ones you can read), THAT is not covered at all, even though they need to do it periodically to check whether/how much my vision is improving.

It. Makes. No. Bloody. Sense.

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