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malaise

(269,157 posts)
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 06:28 AM Oct 2021

So Bernie Kerik was part of the inner circle of the coup

Last edited Mon Oct 25, 2021, 03:08 PM - Edit history (1)

Rudy's Bernie who he recommended for Head of DHS - the one who went to prison for five years, the one the Slobfather pardoned in February 2020

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-pardons-bernard-kerik-why-former-n-y-police-commissioner-n1138236

So three of the criminals in the inner circle had received pardons from the Slobfather - Stone, Bannon and Kerik.
What the fucking fuck!

Lock up the leader of this criminal gang.

Update - I forgot Manifort and Flynn so it's five pardoned criminals plus the ex in-chief criminal/
Thanks Mopinko

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So Bernie Kerik was part of the inner circle of the coup (Original Post) malaise Oct 2021 OP
I find this totally unsurprising. babylonsister Oct 2021 #1
Guaranteed loyalty malaise Oct 2021 #2
Well at least the pardons provide a road map to who should be looked at with regards to 01/06/21 usaf-vet Oct 2021 #3
THIS malaise Oct 2021 #8
Meanwhile, back at the "command center".... SergeStorms Oct 2021 #16
Link? I really want these congress ones expelled viva la Oct 2021 #25
Rolling Stone article here viva la Oct 2021 #26
Lock them all up malaise Oct 2021 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2021 #4
You are right Chin JohnSJ Oct 2021 #6
You can't use the military if you're going to issue illegal orders bucolic_frolic Oct 2021 #5
and a soldier isn't supposed to follow an illegal order either JohnSJ Oct 2021 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2021 #9
Good question malaise Oct 2021 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Oct 2021 #11
History has demonstrated a very mixed picture on that JohnSJ Oct 2021 #12
From what I've seen when I was in the service KS Toronado Oct 2021 #20
RICO? anyone? is this thing on?... bringthePaine Oct 2021 #13
No Republican/Nazi is scared of justice or democrats. They will smile to the next crime. johnthewoodworker Oct 2021 #14
Bernie of the BFEE Kid Berwyn Oct 2021 #15
Nailed it malaise Oct 2021 #18
Thanks. 👆this says it all about Bernie. underpants Oct 2021 #33
Anyone who has read Kerik's tweets FelineOverlord Oct 2021 #17
Well, gee, looks like they were committing crimes from 2015 until the day he left office Mr. Ected Oct 2021 #19
Consequences are coming malaise Oct 2021 #23
I want to believe you, Malaise, but I still have Mueller nightmares Mr. Ected Oct 2021 #24
Yes. I agree. triron Oct 2021 #35
With Bernie Kerik involved how could anything go wrong?!?? underpants Oct 2021 #21
Seriously he picked a bunch of incompetents malaise Oct 2021 #22
He picked people who were willing to be around him underpants Oct 2021 #32
The clown car just wouldn't be complete without Bernie. panader0 Oct 2021 #28
Don't know why I was stunned to read his name yesterday, but I shouldn't have been. msfiddlestix Oct 2021 #29
Read Kid Berwyn's link at #15 malaise Oct 2021 #30
Yes.. who could forget? msfiddlestix Oct 2021 #36
Everyone knew Al Capone was a murderous mobster. gordianot Oct 2021 #31
None of those pardoned henchmen can invoke the 5th Amendment. lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #34
you forgot manifort. and flynn. mopinko Oct 2021 #37
Will add them - thanks mopinko malaise Oct 2021 #38
From Feb 13 2021, 75 more who now owe TFG favors -- he didn't give out all that many for nothin'. ancianita Oct 2021 #44
Is anyone surprised? Bucky Oct 2021 #39
Looking more like criminals these days malaise Oct 2021 #40
I'm gonna disagree Bucky Oct 2021 #41
Agree malaise Oct 2021 #43
The only thing missing from this organized crime cabal is drugs. lindysalsagal Oct 2021 #42
The one in the love nest with Judith REAGAN in the respite apartment after 9/11? UTUSN Oct 2021 #45
His new love nest is at The Willard Blue Owl Oct 2021 #46
think MOB MOB MOB Grasswire2 Oct 2021 #47

usaf-vet

(6,207 posts)
3. Well at least the pardons provide a road map to who should be looked at with regards to 01/06/21
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 06:52 AM
Oct 2021

If you got a "pardon" from the Slobfather consider yourself a person of interest as the January 6th investigation proceeds.

Don't forget the Slobfather loves quid pro quo arrangements. He did you a favor; you OWE him something in return. That is how it works.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
16. Meanwhile, back at the "command center"....
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 08:05 AM
Oct 2021

Paul Gosar is promising insurectionists "blanket pardons" (which Trump would never grant) so they would go to the Capitol and raise hell without fear of being prosecuted.

Also present at these meetings were MT Greene, Bobo Boebert, Maddy Cawthorn, Louie Gohmert, Andy Biggs, and MO Brooks. Now that's a group of the most radical fascists the GQP has to offer. They were all planning and instigating with the "Proud Boys", and all of the other popular fascist groups, willing to propel the "Stop the Steal" lie, and to get Mike Pence to stop the count.

Response to malaise (Original post)

Response to JohnSJ (Reply #7)

Response to Chin music (Reply #9)

KS Toronado

(17,316 posts)
20. From what I've seen when I was in the service
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 08:17 AM
Oct 2021

Most soldiers will just follow orders without questioning anything, however if given orders to arrest or shoot
American citizens I think most would question why this is happening, but the MAGAts in the service would
jump at a chance to "own the libs"

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
19. Well, gee, looks like they were committing crimes from 2015 until the day he left office
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 08:16 AM
Oct 2021

Right in front of us. I mean, we can clearly see the crimes that were committed.

The question isn't guilt or innocence. The question is whether Dems (and the AG) have the moxie to pursue this vigorously without the fear of the inevitable media consequences.

It may be our last chance to save the republic.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
24. I want to believe you, Malaise, but I still have Mueller nightmares
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 08:26 AM
Oct 2021

I clung on to that investigation as the best way to rid us of our fascist infestation. We all know how that ended. Sure hope this one actually launches and ensnares ALL the bad guys, not just the little guys.

underpants

(182,876 posts)
32. He picked people who were willing to be around him
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 09:53 AM
Oct 2021

some of whom seemed to think they’d end up rich.

msfiddlestix

(7,285 posts)
29. Don't know why I was stunned to read his name yesterday, but I shouldn't have been.
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 09:09 AM
Oct 2021

one would think he'd try to avoid getting embroiled with something so obviously breaching law on a very serious scale (in a world of real justice) given his past run in with the law. Mind boggling stupid.

msfiddlestix

(7,285 posts)
36. Yes.. who could forget?
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 10:06 AM
Oct 2021

a side note: going to that link was authored by Octafish. Whatever happened to Octafish? He provided in depth reporting and analysis, a prolific contributor of vitally informative and important info. Just reminded me, wonder what has happened to him?

Anyway, thank you for the link.

gordianot

(15,243 posts)
31. Everyone knew Al Capone was a murderous mobster.
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 09:11 AM
Oct 2021

It took the DOJ decades to get him and had to settle for tax evasion which was posthumously overturnedon a technicality in Federal Court. It is great the DOJ is not the Fire Department we would all be burnt and that includes the current DOJ. Rudi Giuliani was a problem even while he was at justice.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
34. None of those pardoned henchmen can invoke the 5th Amendment.
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 10:00 AM
Oct 2021

So, if DOJ decides to play along, they can be compelled to testify. That's a pretty big IF, though.

ancianita

(36,132 posts)
44. From Feb 13 2021, 75 more who now owe TFG favors -- he didn't give out all that many for nothin'.
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 04:00 PM
Oct 2021

Each owes him some rainy day money, transportation, guarantee of security, or safe passage, somethinsomethin'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_granted_executive_clemency_by_Donald_Trump

Bucky

(54,065 posts)
41. I'm gonna disagree
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 03:42 PM
Oct 2021

Criminals are out for money or revenge or corruption. These goons are still plotting to corrupt our democracy. To a certain extend, low level political terrorism ought to be treated as simple criminal activity (bombings, shootings, burnings, death threats... things like that).

But when the threat to the Republic is credible and imminent and more than ordinary, when it's nearly successful, the response has to be extraordinary too. These aren't simply criminals; they're enemies of the state. I wouldn't have said this 10 years ago. But the Republic seems to be a bit more fragile in this decade. I hope I'm mistaken

lindysalsagal

(20,727 posts)
42. The only thing missing from this organized crime cabal is drugs.
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 03:45 PM
Oct 2021

Other than that, it's gangland, chicago style.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
47. think MOB MOB MOB
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 10:41 PM
Oct 2021

This is how the MOB operates. Tainted individuals, either recruited as tainted, or corrupted on the job.

Tainted folk got nothing to lose.

And they are malleable.

Think about how a mob boss always wants to work with a dirty District Attorney and a corrupted Medical Examiner.

And think about the trans-national crime syndicate that Trump-Kushner have hung around our necks.

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