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TexasTowelie

(112,172 posts)
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 08:51 AM Oct 2021

Manchin agreeable to wealth tax for Biden plan, source confirms

WASHINGTON (AP) — Pivotal Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin appears to be on board with White House proposals for new taxes on billionaires and certain corporations to help pay for President Joe Biden's scaled-back social services and climate change package.

Biden huddled with the conservative West Virginia Democrat and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer at the president's Delaware home on Sunday as they work on resolving the disputes between centrists and progressives that have stalled the Democrats' wide-ranging bill. A person who insisted on anonymity to discuss Manchin's position told The Associated Press the senator is agreeable to the White House's new approach on the tax proposals.

What had been a sweeping $3.5 trillion plan is now being eyed as a $1.75 trillion package. That's within a range that could still climb considerably higher, according to a second person who insisted on anonymity to discuss the private talks.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said that even at "half" the original $3.5 trillion proposed, Biden's signature domestic initiative would be larger than any other legislative package with big investments in health care, child care and strategies to tackle climate change.

Read more: https://keprtv.com/news/connect-to-congress/manchin-agreeable-to-wealth-tax-for-biden-plan-source-confirms

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Manchin agreeable to wealth tax for Biden plan, source confirms (Original Post) TexasTowelie Oct 2021 OP
But what about his tag-team partner Sinema? n/t PoliticAverse Oct 2021 #1
Apparently we're homing in on the right combo of pork/bribes/Kompromat for Manchin. lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #8
How nice of him! BeerBarrelPolka Oct 2021 #2
Its NOT a "wealth" tax. brooklynite Oct 2021 #3
I really like the idea. We need more creativity like this in our legislation Walleye Oct 2021 #4
It can't be a tax on capital gains if it taxes unrealized gains FBaggins Oct 2021 #5
That seems more credible. lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #9
I think Manchin is coming around he touted doc03 Oct 2021 #6
The infrastructure projects are from the "bipartisan" bill FBaggins Oct 2021 #7

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
8. Apparently we're homing in on the right combo of pork/bribes/Kompromat for Manchin.
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 10:40 AM
Oct 2021

Should be able to do the same with Sinema.

brooklynite

(94,554 posts)
3. Its NOT a "wealth" tax.
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 08:56 AM
Oct 2021

It's an income tax on capital gains, with an income threshold...just like higher marginal income tax rates have.

FBaggins

(26,737 posts)
5. It can't be a tax on capital gains if it taxes unrealized gains
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 09:25 AM
Oct 2021

As described, it's definitely a tax on wealth - but limited to what we might call "liquid" wealth.

That is... cash/stocks/bonds, but not real estate or other hard-to-value assets.

After the first year, it's a tax on gains (though still unrealized) from the previous year. But the first-year tax on all unrealized gains is definitely a "wealth tax"... just not all wealth.

It's probably an attempt to get around constitutional concerns. But I'm not sure how that will go.

doc03

(35,336 posts)
6. I think Manchin is coming around he touted
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 09:56 AM
Oct 2021

some of the infrastructure projects WV will get in
the Wheeling WV paper last week.

FBaggins

(26,737 posts)
7. The infrastructure projects are from the "bipartisan" bill
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 10:22 AM
Oct 2021

He's still pushing to get the first bill passed now.

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