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Nevilledog

(51,104 posts)
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 01:01 PM Oct 2021

He's running: 2024 is Trump's "get out of jail free" card



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He's running: 2024 is Trump's "get out of jail free" card
Trump 2024 is all but a lock. Republicans want him back — but most importantly, Donald Trump wants something else
salon.com
9:50 AM · Oct 25, 2021


https://www.salon.com/2021/10/25/the-one-reason-why-donald-is-guaranteed-to-run-for/

Donald Trump is "telling most anyone who'll listen that he will run again in 2024." That's according to Axios's Mike Allen, who also pointed out this weekend that all of the polling suggests that Republican voters are clamoring for the former president to do it. There is little doubt that he will win the Republican nomination easily. Allen reports that all of the Republicans he's spoken with say "it would take a severe illness, death — or criminal charges sticking — to stop Trump from walking away with the race before it even begins." I have never doubted it. They love him, they really love him.

Trump is reportedly watching any would-be rivals very carefully, particularly Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, as well as Mike Pence, his former vice president, and former secretary of state Mike Pompeo. Allen reports that, according to his sources, it's Pence who is Trump's most likely primary opponent — and he is not planning to defer to his former boss, which Allen pointedly says Trump "has noticed." Watching Pence get squashed like a stink bug doesn't seem very sporting, but it's probably all we're going to get.

Truthfully, there is no opening for a serious anti-Trumper and as long as the real thing's on the scene. Nobody can out-Trump Trump. You have to give DeSantis points for trying, though. The Florida governor is now contemplating offering $5,000 to unvaccinated cops who move to the Sunshine State and join departments there rather than submit to vaccine mandates in their home state. Trump must have raised his diet coke in silent salutation at that one. It's Trumpism at its crudest.

DeSantis and Pompeo are still playing the waiting game to see if any unfortunate events befall Trump, but they need to be careful lest they anger the boss and ruin their chances to run as his VP, which they will be happy to do, all the while winking and nodding at the right-wing power brokers that they'll be sure to keep Trump in line. Fat chance.

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He's running: 2024 is Trump's "get out of jail free" card (Original Post) Nevilledog Oct 2021 OP
I can't help but think this will be a disaster for the Republicans. StClone Oct 2021 #1
I am curious what you mean. Sincerely asking. For instance, do you agree with me that from Eliot Rosewater Oct 2021 #3
First he will lose any legitimate election and not allow non-Trumpers to run. StClone Oct 2021 #6
Yes. GoodRaisin Oct 2021 #15
Not according to the latest polls Polybius Oct 2021 #4
Biden will not be running in 2024, that is my belief StClone Oct 2021 #9
You might be right about Biden not running Polybius Oct 2021 #13
Only 44% of the gqp support him via pew research PortTack Oct 2021 #10
The last three? Polybius Oct 2021 #14
The last 3 election cycles 16, 18, 20. Sorry should have clarified PortTack Oct 2021 #17
K&R, but he doesn't care about GQP just saving his ass uponit7771 Oct 2021 #8
They don't really love Trump,they love the hatred Walleye Oct 2021 #2
The people who love to hate "others" hurple Oct 2021 #5
Unfortunately hatred and anger are stronger emotions than love and understanding Walleye Oct 2021 #7
HE'S NOT GOING TO JAIL!!!! SoCalDavidS Oct 2021 #11
This was my thought as well - he doesn't need any "get out of jail free card". Steelrolled Oct 2021 #12
Good news for Democrats and for Biden, if he wants a second term lees1975 Oct 2021 #16
Trump and Republicans can think what they want...Trump is a ...".LIAR AND KILLER" Stuart G Oct 2021 #18
This is the point. It's what I've been sounding the alarm about. It was as obvious as red wine msfiddlestix Oct 2021 #19

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
3. I am curious what you mean. Sincerely asking. For instance, do you agree with me that from
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 01:07 PM
Oct 2021

THIS MOMENT FORWARD

"Any election a republican loses in a city, county or state where the GOP controls the counting of votes and the CERTIFYING of elections, they will refuse to certify?"

StClone

(11,683 posts)
6. First he will lose any legitimate election and not allow non-Trumpers to run.
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 01:19 PM
Oct 2021

Secondly, if allowed to overturn elections there will be civil unrest of proportions that will rival anything this country has seen in its history. Disaster either way for Republicans and the country as well.

StClone

(11,683 posts)
9. Biden will not be running in 2024, that is my belief
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 01:23 PM
Oct 2021

And Trump has some real issues to even get to running again, too. It is only 2021-a lot, A LOT! is going to happen in the next three years.

Polybius

(15,413 posts)
13. You might be right about Biden not running
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 02:27 PM
Oct 2021

I just hope we can agree on a good candidate. For me, it wouldn't be Harris unless she got the nomination.

PortTack

(32,767 posts)
10. Only 44% of the gqp support him via pew research
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 01:57 PM
Oct 2021
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/10/06/two-thirds-of-republicans-want-trump-to-retain-major-political-role-44-want-him-to-run-again-in-2024/

I’ve seen some of those polls, given the current status of their poor polling methodology I don’t buy any of it. The last 3 election cycles have proven how inaccurate they are

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
11. HE'S NOT GOING TO JAIL!!!!
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 02:01 PM
Oct 2021

There are plenty of reasons he's running. Escaping prison or even arrest, IS NOT ONE OF THEM!

He can 100% deserve it. We could 100% desire it. But it's fantasy that a former President is going to be held accountable in the current environment, or for the next 50 years.

 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
12. This was my thought as well - he doesn't need any "get out of jail free card".
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 02:05 PM
Oct 2021

After all of this time, I can't believe the amount of wishful thinking.

lees1975

(3,859 posts)
16. Good news for Democrats and for Biden, if he wants a second term
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 02:48 PM
Oct 2021

It won't even be close enough to claim "massive, massive, MASSIVE voter fraud" this time around. That's why Republican controlled state legislatures are trying to corner the market on the ability to decide who gets the electoral votes.

Nut jobs and former Trumpies like Pence, Pompeo and DeSantis are lightweights who would be hard pressed to get even a majority of muddled Republicans line up for them. The GOP needs a real politician in the mix to challenge the orange blowhard. Unfortunately, in the GOP, integrity and politicians who respect government are in very short supply.

Democratic landslide on the way.

Stuart G

(38,427 posts)
18. Trump and Republicans can think what they want...Trump is a ...".LIAR AND KILLER"
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 03:02 PM
Oct 2021

MOST people know that..Trump can run, but I believe he can't win...Yes, Donald Trump is a "Liar and Killer"

and.....Most people in the United States know that.....How do I know??.......Trump has proven that to .".Most People"...
who read and watch TV........

I once read that even after Nixon resigned, about 20% supported him............................................

.................Those are true idiots who will never see the truth....I think they will always support Trump................

msfiddlestix

(7,282 posts)
19. This is the point. It's what I've been sounding the alarm about. It was as obvious as red wine
Mon Oct 25, 2021, 03:35 PM
Oct 2021

on white carpet.

Only to be rebuked with condescending reactions framed as "whining" and the idiotic request to "be patient" or worse, the even more idiotic question posed "how do you know what's being investigated?"

How do we not collectively understand the stakes, understand the remedy, understand the time is of the essence?

Just so painfully obvious.

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