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RandySF

(58,806 posts)
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 08:16 PM Oct 2021

Prosecutors cannot call those shot by Kyle Rittenhouse 'victims,' a judge has ruled

Prosecutors in the criminal trial of Kyle Rittenhouse, the teenager who shot and killed two protesters last year in Kenosha, Wis., will not be able to refer to the people he shot as "victims," a judge has ruled, while defense attorneys may be able to call them "arsonists" or "looters."

In a proceeding about the ground rules for the upcoming trial, prosecutors and defense lawyers debated whether certain language, witnesses or evidence would be allowed. The trial begins next week.

"The word 'victim' is a loaded, loaded word. And I think 'alleged victim' is a cousin to it," Judge Bruce Schroeder said on Monday, asking prosecutors to instead use the terms "complaining witness" or "decedent" to refer to those shot by Rittenhouse. (Though not universal, it is not unheard of for judges to feel that the word "victim" presupposes the defendant's guilt.)

Meanwhile, the defense will be allowed to refer to the three people Rittenhouse shot as "arsonists," "looters" or "rioters" so long as they took part in those activities, Schroeder ruled — a decision prosecutor Thomas Binger called "a double standard."

"Let the evidence show what the evidence shows," Schroeder said. "And if the evidence shows that any or more than one of these people were engaged in arson, rioting, or looting — then I'm not going to tell the defense they can't call them that."




https://www.npr.org/2021/10/26/1049458617/kyle-rittenhouse-victims-arsonists-looters-judge-ruled

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Prosecutors cannot call those shot by Kyle Rittenhouse 'victims,' a judge has ruled (Original Post) RandySF Oct 2021 OP
That is absolutely disgusting ... I can see the argument against 'victim' but it's entirely Hugh_Lebowski Oct 2021 #1
There is more evidence that Rittenhouse is a terrorist vigilante aeromanKC Oct 2021 #2
Yup, posted earlier. Pathetic. onecaliberal Oct 2021 #3
Soooo.... "targets"? "Bullet recipients?" n/t TygrBright Oct 2021 #4
Is a better noun available in the Wisconsin criminal code? Frasier Balzov Oct 2021 #5
U.S. conservative style justice. nt ShazamIam Oct 2021 #6
I would just Dorian Gray Oct 2021 #7
 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
1. That is absolutely disgusting ... I can see the argument against 'victim' but it's entirely
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 08:21 PM
Oct 2021

hypocritical to say it's okay to call the decedents by these names when none of them are convicted of any such crime, obviously.

What a fucking asshole

aeromanKC

(3,322 posts)
2. There is more evidence that Rittenhouse is a terrorist vigilante
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 08:38 PM
Oct 2021

than any of those murdered by Rittenhouse as a looter or arsonist.

Frasier Balzov

(2,647 posts)
5. Is a better noun available in the Wisconsin criminal code?
Tue Oct 26, 2021, 09:06 PM
Oct 2021

An acceptable noun must be found, because the people who Rittenhouse shot will need to be referred to repeatedly during the proceedings.

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