Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
17 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
I am in a discussion w my brother and need help (Original Post) Chuuku Davis Oct 2021 OP
EU countries allow citizens of participatory countries free movement within the zone Caliman73 Oct 2021 #1
EU - Shengen Agreement NQAS Oct 2021 #2
Is he thinking of moving to Mexico? leftstreet Oct 2021 #3
What is an "unregistered" person? Scrivener7 Oct 2021 #4
I'm wondering too. 2naSalit Oct 2021 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2021 #5
"GTFO of here with that Xenophobic BS, Bro". maxsolomon Oct 2021 #6
You must be thinking about cars, not people. KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2021 #7
I'm registered to vote in a blue state... stillcool Oct 2021 #8
Pretty sure Canada has allowed unfettered immigration until covid. lindysalsagal Oct 2021 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2021 #17
We don't really "allow" it treestar Oct 2021 #10
If the Republican Party gets its way the United States will disintegrate. hunter Oct 2021 #11
Where are you from? 2naSalit Oct 2021 #13
The EU does to some extent. róisín_dubh Oct 2021 #14
The Mercosur countries of South America sanatanadharma Oct 2021 #15
"Unregistered?" BlackSkimmer Oct 2021 #16

Caliman73

(11,736 posts)
1. EU countries allow citizens of participatory countries free movement within the zone
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 01:36 PM
Oct 2021

They are not "unregistered" they are residents within the Eurozone.

What does your brother mean by "unregistered"? No country allows people without the proper documentation to move freely across their borders. It isn't something that can be stopped and likely every country has some method of dealing with people who are seeking asylum.

What is the topic and point of this discussion?

NQAS

(10,749 posts)
2. EU - Shengen Agreement
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 01:38 PM
Oct 2021

Here's a link on Shengen: https://www.axa-schengen.com/en/countries-schengen-area

Define unregistered.

There may be many agreements that allow, for example, visa-free entry - US/Canada, US/UK - but you still need a passport, which is scanned, I think.

There may be comparable agreements among the Southeast Asian countries or Russia and the former Soviet republics. But, again, while visas may not be required, their entries and departures will be captures.

Response to Chuuku Davis (Original post)

maxsolomon

(33,327 posts)
6. "GTFO of here with that Xenophobic BS, Bro".
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 01:51 PM
Oct 2021

One surmises this is a "Crisis at the Southern Border" discussion.

Illegal Border Crossings are exactly that. Illegal. No one "Registers".
Asylum Seekers are claiming asylum, which is legal.
Mexicans with valid identification are allowed to cross into the US legally, and thousands do every day.
With a valid passport, I can go to Mexico or Canada without "Registering".

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
7. You must be thinking about cars, not people.
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 01:59 PM
Oct 2021

Driver's I.D., proof of insurance and legal registration required for cars.

People use passports.......

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
8. I'm registered to vote in a blue state...
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 02:06 PM
Oct 2021

don't know if I can cross the border into a red state. I share your brothers concerns. What would the EU countries do?

Response to lindysalsagal (Reply #9)

treestar

(82,383 posts)
10. We don't really "allow" it
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 02:12 PM
Oct 2021

We just cannot seem to enforce it. The border is long. But officially we don't allow it. To enter the US, one needs a passport with a visa or a green card. I take it he thinks entries without inspection are the same as "unregistered."

I would think there is no country that "allows" anyone to cross the border without documents. Most countries are not places people from other countries will be willing to try to sneak into. Either they can easily get a visa, or if they can't, they just don't go there.

People want to come the US badly enough that they are willing to sneak in if they cannot get a visa. A few other countries could have this problem too - Australia, New Zealand, the EU, Canada. First World Countries.

Australia and New Zealand have the advantage of being big islands, so entry may be easier to monitor, but I would be fairly sure they have unregistered people who sneaked in. Canada is cold. The EU countries have boats that arrive with people in them, but they are not just "allowing" them in - they must be doing something with them. The EU border on land doesn't seem to motivate Russians or others who could sneak across it uncaught. But there might be people who do that.

hunter

(38,311 posts)
11. If the Republican Party gets its way the United States will disintegrate.
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 02:19 PM
Oct 2021

Eventually Canada and Mexico will annex whichever states remain governable.

The Canada-Mexico border will be relatively soft. The border with the ungovernable red states will be a wall. Refugees from those sorry places will have to prove they are not gun loving xenophobic racist assholes before they are allowed entry to the civilized world.

Okay, I'm being sarcastic.

My usual response to these questions Trump Maggots ask is, "Fuck off."

róisín_dubh

(11,794 posts)
14. The EU does to some extent.
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 02:31 PM
Oct 2021

If you’re a citizen of the Schengen zone, you can cross borders without being checked. But if I, a US citizen and UK resident, enter the schengen zone, I am checked at the first point of entry. I can move freely from that point, but only until my visa expires. On exit, overstaying is punishable (depending on the country, they are more or less strict…the Netherlands and Germany carefully checked). If you overstayed, it is nigh on impossible to do ANYTHING that would allow one to have a normal life.
I don’t get what your brother is hinting at.

sanatanadharma

(3,702 posts)
15. The Mercosur countries of South America
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 02:51 PM
Oct 2021

The Mercosur countries of South America have open borders for other Mercosur country citizens.
Everyone has their own country cedula (ID).
Mercosur citizens can legally work in other countries.

Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay, Brazil, Chile, Venezuela, Columbia, Peru (others)

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»I am in a discussion w my...