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Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 04:44 PM Oct 2021

I qualify for a booster shot because I'm FAT.



I'm thankful that I happened to watch CNN this morning, or I wouldn't have known that I qualify!

The woman interviewed said that almost 90% of American adults qualify to get a booster shot because of their high body-mass indexes (BMI's)!

My BMI makes me "overweight" too, thankfully!

My shoulders are broad and my thighs are muscular, which is ideal for a high BMI since it's based only on height and weight.

Other measures being adopted (such as height-to-waist ratios) place me in a "healthy weight" category, but if BMI is going to be used instead... it works for me!

Already have an appointment scheduled for Monday!


There were LOTS of available time slots, so there shouldn't be any booster restrictions at all as far as I'm concerned. Many qualified people obviously aren't scheduling their boosters anyway.
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I qualify for a booster shot because I'm FAT. (Original Post) Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2021 OP
My doctor has the same guidelines as well. gldstwmn Oct 2021 #1
I later looked up the CDC guidelines... Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2021 #3
I read that Oct 14 is the date the CDC updated their list. BigmanPigman Oct 2021 #6
Ah, thanks! I was disappointed to learn about... Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2021 #12
I learned of it yesterday, right here on DU! BigmanPigman Oct 2021 #19
I missed it! Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2021 #27
I noticed not all places are going by those guidelines but fortunately my doctor is. gldstwmn Oct 2021 #15
My doctor's staff told me... BigmanPigman Oct 2021 #21
It's so odd how standards vary by provider. gldstwmn Oct 2021 #60
These differences are keeping BigmanPigman Oct 2021 #71
I found out yesterday that I qualify for a booster BigmanPigman Oct 2021 #2
Thanks for providing the CDC link! Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2021 #5
No problem. I read that 85% of US adults BigmanPigman Oct 2021 #8
Send her a box of blintzes EYESORE 9001 Oct 2021 #28
Or I could drive her crazy since BigmanPigman Oct 2021 #29
Yeah, blintzes don't travel well anyway EYESORE 9001 Oct 2021 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author BigmanPigman Oct 2021 #30
There is a pharmacy at the front of my grocery store. zuul Oct 2021 #4
Yeah, there's probably some areas in short supply. Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2021 #10
It's easier to ask hamsterjill Oct 2021 #7
Maybe it's time to stop the charade and let anybody get it. lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #11
That would make more sense. hamsterjill Oct 2021 #13
I agree. Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2021 #14
I asked both my primary care doctor's office BigmanPigman Oct 2021 #16
See and people say we discriminate against the obese! Drunken Irishman Oct 2021 #9
Well, now the OP is overweight AND magnetic! ret5hd Oct 2021 #17
Lol! Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2021 #18
duzy KentuckyWoman Oct 2021 #58
The only caveat is that you shouldn't get it sooner than six months Ocelot II Oct 2021 #20
Yep, it'll be over six months for me. Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2021 #24
Except if you got J&J hamsterjill Oct 2021 #26
I qualify based on job but would also do so based on weight dsc Oct 2021 #22
A 5'11 male qualifies as overweight if he's at 182 lbs greenjar_01 Oct 2021 #23
It's not very accurate for wide-framed people... Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2021 #25
5'11 and 182 is not overweight even in narrow-framed people greenjar_01 Oct 2021 #31
That was certainly my impression after seeing... Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2021 #33
Those were my exact measurements when I was at my fittest in my forties Ron Obvious Oct 2021 #52
It's ludicrous greenjar_01 Oct 2021 #53
How right you are ripcord Oct 2021 #59
Crazy! So I just checked Lebron James' BMI... Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2021 #61
In the 90s a friend's health insurance threatened to cancel him ripcord Oct 2021 #62
BMI really needs to be dropped by the CDC... Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2021 #63
I got my J&J booster today madville Oct 2021 #34
Good to know they're not being overbearing about it! Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2021 #36
Everybody who got J&J is qualified for a booster, so they shouldn't even be asking how someone LisaL Oct 2021 #40
Good point! Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2021 #42
Seems like even the pharmacists are confused. LisaL Oct 2021 #44
That's how I got mine today (Moderna). All I had to let them know is that I got the J&J vax and smirkymonkey Oct 2021 #64
Everybody who got J&J vaccine is qualified for a booster. LisaL Oct 2021 #38
I had read about that but wasn't sure if it was official and trickled down yet madville Oct 2021 #45
It's official. LisaL Oct 2021 #46
Maybe the extra dosage? Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2021 #47
Yeah I thought about it madville Oct 2021 #51
I got the Moderna booster. Beacool Oct 2021 #48
I'm happy for you! Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2021 #49
Thanks... Beacool Oct 2021 #50
CVS in Kansas didn't ask for any criteria. Nt USALiberal Oct 2021 #35
Good to know! Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2021 #37
Just the 6 month gap. Nt USALiberal Oct 2021 #39
Yep, I figured that rule would still be strictly followed. Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2021 #41
Great!! Maybe get your yearly flu shot too! Nt USALiberal Oct 2021 #68
Yes, I scheduled that too. Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2021 #69
It's 2 months for J&J. LisaL Oct 2021 #43
obesity is an underlying condition, as defined by the CDC steve2470 Oct 2021 #54
Thanks! Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2021 #55
I qualified by being OLD KentuckyWoman Oct 2021 #56
That's my intention too. Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2021 #57
Yep, Me Too Deep State Witch Oct 2021 #65
If only everyone could be overweight, we might... Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2021 #67
Yep, Me Too Deep State Witch Oct 2021 #66
That's how I qualified. phylny Oct 2021 #70

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
3. I later looked up the CDC guidelines...
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 04:53 PM
Oct 2021

... and being a smoker, present OR past (like me), is another way for younger people to qualify.

I'm not sure if there were recent CDC updates that I missed, or if the cable news channels typically failed to mention all of the ways people could qualify for a booster.

I certainly don't remember previous smoking status being a listed qualifier weeks ago, at least on the news.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
12. Ah, thanks! I was disappointed to learn about...
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 05:00 PM
Oct 2021

... the restrictions earlier than that date, and I hadn't kept up with the latest news over the past few weeks.

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
21. My doctor's staff told me...
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 05:09 PM
Oct 2021

"You know more about boosters than we do" and told me to call CVS. Just great!

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
60. It's so odd how standards vary by provider.
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 07:00 PM
Oct 2021

Mine has dropped the ball on certain things like never offering to test me for Covid last year when I got really sick but yet they will let me get the booster. 🤷‍♀️

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
71. These differences are keeping
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 11:29 PM
Oct 2021

people who want the real info from getting it. There is so much work that you have to do to keep up to date on so many levels. It seems like every other day I learn of new requirements and standards. It is difficult to keep up.

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
2. I found out yesterday that I qualify for a booster
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 04:53 PM
Oct 2021

after reading this long list of ailments that get you at the front of the booster line. Since my last shot was in May I have to wait 1 month for the 6 month date. All CVS stores have the booster I was told.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/need-extra-precautions/people-with-medical-conditions.html

"Overweight (defined as a body mass index (BMI) > 25 kg/m2 but < 30 kg/m2), obesity (BMI ≥30 kg/m2 but < 40 kg/m2), or severe obesity (BMI of ≥40 kg/m2), can make you more likely to get severely ill from COVID-19. The risk of severe COVID-19 illness increases sharply with elevated BMI."

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
29. Or I could drive her crazy since
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 05:28 PM
Oct 2021

having a mental condition also puts you at risk for Covid. There are a ton of things on the list that qualify.

Response to EYESORE 9001 (Reply #28)

zuul

(14,624 posts)
4. There is a pharmacy at the front of my grocery store.
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 04:54 PM
Oct 2021

As I was walking into the store on Monday, the pharmacist happened to be standing at the window and there was no line. So I asked him if there were any restrictions regarding who could get the booster (age, medical condition, etc.). He said no, so I got mine then and there.

I had the option of getting any of the 3 (Moderna, Pfizer, or J&J.) Since I got J&J in late March, I opted for Moderna this time.

I think it just depends on where you're located, the supply the pharmacy has, and how cooperative your pharmacy is. I'm in New Orleans and apparently there is plenty of supply here. I have family members on the Mississippi Gulf Coast who can't find the booster yet.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
10. Yeah, there's probably some areas in short supply.
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 04:57 PM
Oct 2021

That's sad to know.

Plenty of available time slots around here. That's kind of sad to discover too, since it implies my area has supply but little demand.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
11. Maybe it's time to stop the charade and let anybody get it.
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 04:58 PM
Oct 2021

...assuming a reasonable time since last main dose (6 months?)

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
14. I agree.
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 05:02 PM
Oct 2021

Seems like it should be that way in my area, anyway.

Let all of the people eager to get a booster, do it.

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
16. I asked both my primary care doctor's office
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 05:04 PM
Oct 2021

and the CVS pharmacy yesterday. When I asked if I qualified for a booster after reading the NY. Times article. I was told that the doctor is clueless when it comes to vaxxes and the receptionist said, "you know more about this than the doctor". I called CVS and asked them for an appointment since but the Covid guy on the phone said the computers were down and to call my local CVS. I called my CVS and the Pharmacy said their computers are running but they can't make appointments and I have to do it on line.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/need-extra-precautions/people-with-medical-conditions.html

Ocelot II

(115,683 posts)
20. The only caveat is that you shouldn't get it sooner than six months
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 05:08 PM
Oct 2021

from your last one - they say it won't be as effective. If it's been six months or more, though, go for it.

During the lockdown I dieted like crazy and got my BMI down from 30 to less than 25, so now I wouldn't qualify for a booster if I hadn't also been old. Go figure...

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
24. Yep, it'll be over six months for me.
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 05:17 PM
Oct 2021

My 2nd Moderna shot was administered in mid-April.

My older sister (all of my siblings are much older than me) told me that she was scheduling her booster a few weeks ago, and she asked if I was doing it too. I gave her an irritable reply that I wasn't old enough, and I didn't qualify in other ways either. Damn it!

I was so happy when I heard about BMI's on CNN this morning! My BMI has been high for years, mostly because of my body shape. Coworkers used to laugh when I'd tell them that I was "overweight" too, per my BMI.

dsc

(52,160 posts)
22. I qualify based on job but would also do so based on weight
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 05:12 PM
Oct 2021

though when I got mine last weekend they hadn't updated to include questions about weight. I hope we can get this under control.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
25. It's not very accurate for wide-framed people...
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 05:19 PM
Oct 2021

... but I'm happy this time that the medical community still uses it.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
31. 5'11 and 182 is not overweight even in narrow-framed people
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 05:34 PM
Oct 2021

It's a ridiculous measure.

On edit: Nobody is actually checking any of these exemptions. They have more vaccine than they know what to do with. If you check "yeah, sure, I qualify," they're going to vax you up again, and you're not taking anyone's spot. they have appointments as the day is long.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
33. That was certainly my impression after seeing...
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 05:39 PM
Oct 2021

... all of the open time slots at my local pharmacy!

Good grief, just let every adult that wants a booster be allowed to get it! It sure doesn't seem like there's a long line of more vulnerable people who can't make a quick appointment, at least where I live.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
52. Those were my exact measurements when I was at my fittest in my forties
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 06:43 PM
Oct 2021

I wore waist-size 30 jeans too, hardly overweight.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
53. It's ludicrous
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 06:45 PM
Oct 2021

I'm a little under that weight now, but at that height. The notion that if I gain 5-7 pounds I'd be overweight is comical in the extreme. I run 4-6 times a week.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
61. Crazy! So I just checked Lebron James' BMI...
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 07:05 PM
Oct 2021

... at 6'9" and 250 pounds, and he's "overweight" with a BMI of 26.8!

ripcord

(5,372 posts)
62. In the 90s a friend's health insurance threatened to cancel him
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 07:09 PM
Oct 2021

They saw that by his previous physical exam he was overweight by the BMI chart and said he was unhealthy, he was a bodybuilder who carried from 8-12% body fat but had so much muscle it screwed up their estimates.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
63. BMI really needs to be dropped by the CDC...
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 07:15 PM
Oct 2021

... because it's so inaccurate for more muscular people!

(Just don't change it until after I get the booster. Lol!)

I bet most professional athletes today would be "overweight" per BMI -- muscular MLB players, NFL running backs, etc.

Maybe even Walter Payton, former Chicago Bears RB, would be considered overweight that way? Yet he was well-known for his extremely low body fat.

madville

(7,410 posts)
34. I got my J&J booster today
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 05:53 PM
Oct 2021

Went to get my 10 year tetanus booster, asked about the COVID booster and they asked how I qualified, I said I'm considered an essential worker for the local electric utility, pharmacist just shrugged and said "ok, good enough". Also got a regular flu shot too, three jabs in one visit.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
36. Good to know they're not being overbearing about it!
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 05:59 PM
Oct 2021

I'll gladly step on a scale if my local pharmacy doubts my BMI, but I doubt that they'll bother. They should be happy when anyone wants the shots, in this crazy country.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
40. Everybody who got J&J is qualified for a booster, so they shouldn't even be asking how someone
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 06:02 PM
Oct 2021

qualifies if that someone got J&J for their vaccine.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
64. That's how I got mine today (Moderna). All I had to let them know is that I got the J&J vax and
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 08:04 PM
Oct 2021

when I got it (back in April) and I didn't even need another qualifier. I also got the flu shot while I was there. I just thought I would knock them out at the same time which is why I did in on a Friday.

I can already feel the body aches creeping up on me, but usually I don't feel the full force of the immune response until about 10-12 hours later, so I imagine that it will hit me when I wake up tomorrow.

It's going to pour all day here tomorrow so at least I won't be missing anything.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
38. Everybody who got J&J vaccine is qualified for a booster.
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 06:00 PM
Oct 2021

"IF YOU RECEIVED
Johnson & Johnson’s Janssen
You are eligible for a booster if you are:
18 years or older

When to get a booster:
At least 2 months after your shot

Which booster should you get?
Any of the COVID-19 vaccines authorized in the United States"

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/booster-shot.html

madville

(7,410 posts)
45. I had read about that but wasn't sure if it was official and trickled down yet
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 06:13 PM
Oct 2021

Anyway, the pharmacist also said he asks everybody why they are getting a booster and if they are immunocompromised he recommends the Moderna shot to them because he thinks it's the best one.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
47. Maybe the extra dosage?
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 06:23 PM
Oct 2021

Moderna shots provided over three times as much mRNA vaccine compared to Pfizer, which is why I wanted it months ago. The reports of worse side-effects for Moderna recipients at that time didn't matter to me, especially since none of the reactions were very serious for the vast majority of people.

Is Moderna Really Better Than Pfizer—Or Is It Just a Higher Dose?
https://www.govexec.com/management/2021/10/moderna-really-better-pfizeror-it-just-higher-dose/186435/

... A recent (but not yet peer-reviewed) study of more than half a million U.S. veterans showed that the Johnson & Johnson shot’s protection against infection (whether or not that leads to disease or hospitalization) had plummeted from 88 percent to 3 percent by mid-August, while the other vaccines’ effectiveness had declined much less. Research published in the past few months also signals that Moderna’s shot beats out Pfizer’s in terms of both antibody count and hospitalizations prevented, while a National Institutes of Health study released earlier this month found that Moderna’s booster shot lifted participants’ antibody levels a bit more than Pfizer’s, and that both mRNA boosters were miles ahead of J&J’s.

In light of all these data, it’s tempting to rank the vaccines by brand name: Moderna is better than Pfizer is better than J&J. But the same numbers hint at a different pattern: Maybe what matters most is not which vaccine you get, but how much of it.

Consider how the vaccines differ in their dosing. J&J, the least effective in the studies, has only one shot in its primary series; the mRNA vaccines have two. So anyone who got J&J (and hasn’t yet gotten a booster) received half as many doses total. Comparing Pfizer with Moderna, you see another dose difference: Each shot of Pfizer contains 30 micrograms of mRNA, while each one of Moderna contains 100. (Doses for children could also differ in size: Pfizer has proposed 10-microgram shots, while Moderna is going with 50.) Just how much of the difference in the shots’ performance can be summed up by saying “More vaccine is better”?...

madville

(7,410 posts)
51. Yeah I thought about it
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 06:42 PM
Oct 2021

I decided to just stick with the J&J since it’s made the “old fashioned way” and I read after the second shot it’s 94% effective, good enough for me. After there are a few more years of data on the mRNA vaccines I’d reconsider them, I just don’t believe in being an early adopter of anything.

On second thought, the pharmacist may have been asking how I qualified because he was suggesting I didn’t look 18 yet lol j/k

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
48. I got the Moderna booster.
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 06:26 PM
Oct 2021

I got the J&J shot in March. I made an appointment with Walgreens to receive the Pfizer booster. Coincidentally, that same day mayor DeBlasio and governor Hochul received a Moderna booster. They had gotten the J&J shot and the ABC medical expert said that Moderna was more effective for those who had gotten the J&J vaccine. So i went back online and changed my appt. to a different Walgreens in my town that carried the Moderna booster. I got it yesterday, so far I only have a slightly sore arm.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
49. I'm happy for you!
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 06:35 PM
Oct 2021

And thanks for being a responsible person too, since your vaccination will also help others.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
41. Yep, I figured that rule would still be strictly followed.
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 06:02 PM
Oct 2021

2nd shot was mid-April for me, so I'm past 6 months.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
69. Yes, I scheduled that too.
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 09:22 PM
Oct 2021

I often don't get a flu shot each year, to be honest, but the pharmacy's website mentioned it... so I selected that vaccine too.

I had a bunch of their other vaccination offerings just a couple years ago, such as the one to prevent Shingles, so I'm good with those.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
54. obesity is an underlying condition, as defined by the CDC
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 06:45 PM
Oct 2021
https://democraticunderground.com/100215992306

Overweight and obesity

Overweight (defined as a body mass index (BMI) > 25 kg/m2 but < 30 kg/m2), obesity (BMI ≥30 kg/m2 but < 40 kg/m2), or severe obesity (BMI of ≥40 kg/m2), can make you more likely to get severely ill from COVID-19. The risk of severe COVID-19 illness increases sharply with elevated BMI.


Best wishes to you.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
55. Thanks!
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 06:50 PM
Oct 2021

I used to smoke too, and that's apparently a qualifier as well.

They might as well let every adult (and younger age groups with established FDA safety) do it, after enough time has passed since the previous shot.

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
56. I qualified by being OLD
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 06:50 PM
Oct 2021

From how things are shaping up, I'll be getting jabbed every 6 month from here on out.

I am also about 10 pounds overweight. Like a lot of women, a little wide in the caboose. So it sounds like I get 2 reasons.

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