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luv2fly

(2,475 posts)
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 08:52 AM Oct 2021

"Seditious" tRump?

Trump and his lawyers have handed investigators what they need to charge them with 'seditious conspiracy': former prosecutor
Tom Boggioni
October 31, 2021

Appearing on MSNBC early Sunday morning, former federal prosecutor Glenn Kirschner predicted that revelations about Donald Trump, attorney John Eastman and Justice Department official Jeffrey Clark have given House investigators all they need to charge the three with sedition -- and that more evidence is still to come.

Speaking with host Kendis Gibson, the attorney said written documents and recorded comments by three have built the case against them.

"You know Kendis, it is not that Vice President Pence did not have the courage or the spine to overthrow the election's result, it is that he did not have the law or the authority to overthrow the election results," he began. "There's nothing in the 12th Amendment, nothing in the Electoral College Count Act that gives a vice president the unilateral authority to just disregard or throw out the results of the popular vote, as he is presiding over the count of the Electoral College votes."

"What all of this shows us, Kendis, is that there is going to be so much evidence coming out, that will prove, I suggest, like guys like [John] Eastman and certainly Donald Trump, and Jeffrey Clark -- who was assisting Trump in his efforts to overturn the election results -- they are going to build the case for this being a criminal conspiracy, indeed, a seditious conspiracy."

(Not much) more at

https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-sedition-2655462110/

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FoxNewsSucks

(10,429 posts)
3. I'd be happy to see some arrests
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 10:26 AM
Oct 2021

We keep hearing "they handed us everything we need" yet the scumbag criminal grifters are still roaming free, continuing their scams, telling their side on their podcasts every day and having Klan rallies.

At the very least, they should have been arrested and be out on bond now. They've been treated as if we all imagined the crimes we saw with our own eyes.

Statutes of limitations set a time within which to charge a suspect. These circumstances are far worse than that because when republicons regain control after next year, anything being done now goes in the shredder. I wish I could see that they understand the urgency and very short time left.

KS Toronado

(17,231 posts)
11. "when republicons regain control after next year,"?
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 11:22 AM
Oct 2021

Is not going to happen, we gain seats in both houses, odds are stacked against them. IMHO

FoxNewsSucks

(10,429 posts)
19. I sincerely hope you're right
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 12:56 PM
Oct 2021

and I understand a desire to be optimistic.

But I see republicons working feverishly to lie, cheat and steal their way into permanent control. While I can't really be optimistic any longer about what I see happening, I don't think there's ever been something I've hoped more fervently to be wrong about.

Firestorm49

(4,035 posts)
7. It all gets down to Garland, whom, it appears, would rather avoid controversy than prosecute
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 10:57 AM
Oct 2021

serious violations of the law and our constitution…….”for the good of the country”

Lonestarblue

(9,988 posts)
4. 18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 10:27 AM
Oct 2021

“If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.”

Trump and his co-conspirators committed acts of sedition on national television and Trump and speakers at the rally clearly told attendees to go to the Capitol and stop the certification of Biden’s election, in other words “by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States.”

Why has a grand jury not been convened?

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
5. I like these threads much more than the "what's taking so long?" and the
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 10:43 AM
Oct 2021

“Herr always gets away with everything” ones that harbor only despondency.

CanonRay

(14,101 posts)
8. DOJ can't even charge Bannon with Contempt of Congress
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 11:01 AM
Oct 2021

how the hell does anyone think they'll indict Trump?

PatrickforB

(14,573 posts)
14. Goddamn right it was a criminal conspiracy!
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 11:42 AM
Oct 2021

Let's just hope our system does the right thing and convicts these traitors.

 

demosurvivor

(42 posts)
15. Most people know
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 11:50 AM
Oct 2021

they are guilty as hell. I'm shocked they are not serving time by now. Just look at the DOJ sitting on their hands regarding Bannon.

Somehow I see these losers taking a victory lap. It is so sad watching Chump destroy our democracy each and every day.

Prove me wrong. I wanna be wrong in so many ways.

It's time.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
18. It's what we all knew, but it sure is sporting of them to wrap it all with a ribbon and a bow.
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 12:31 PM
Oct 2021

This is what John Oliver would call "Stupid Watergate."

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