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jmbar2

(4,908 posts)
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 08:54 PM Nov 2021

If McCauliff loses, should Dems claim election fraud?

Part of me would like to see it, just tit for tat. The other part of me doesn't want to pour gasoline on the existing fire.

But I wonder what they would say if the shoe were on the other foot?

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If McCauliff loses, should Dems claim election fraud? (Original Post) jmbar2 Nov 2021 OP
Wonder what the average voter would think? brooklynite Nov 2021 #1
It would be kind of difficult to do that since Democrats control the state Tony_FLADEM Nov 2021 #2
Virginia uses paper ballots. onenote Nov 2021 #13
Definitely? Brainfodder Nov 2021 #3
No SmartJellyfish Nov 2021 #4
This..besides they already claim we did as much or worse in '16 with HRC PortTack Nov 2021 #6
How does allowing the other side to steal the election achieve high moral ground? bucolic_frolic Nov 2021 #7
high moral ground is useless when the gestapo kicks in your door nt msongs Nov 2021 #12
Pushing for a recount and claiming election fraud are two different things bucolic_frolic Nov 2021 #5
Let's no go there, please. Ugh secondwind Nov 2021 #8
not without really good evidence sciencescience Nov 2021 #9
No. Nt helpisontheway Nov 2021 #10
It is McAuliffe and secondly WTF? We don't act like repugs. FSogol Nov 2021 #11
Not to worry. jcmaine72 Nov 2021 #14
No. Just no. UTUSN Nov 2021 #15
Only if there's evidence of fraud FBaggins Nov 2021 #16
Exactement! Mme. Defarge Nov 2021 #18
If there was election fraud CentralMass Nov 2021 #17
It's already tit for tat Polybius Nov 2021 #19
Really? We pulled the same shit in 2016 Crunchy Frog Nov 2021 #23
No Polybius Nov 2021 #25
Which Democratic officials claimed fraud? Where did they claim the fraud occured? Crunchy Frog Nov 2021 #26
... Polybius Nov 2021 #29
Oh yeah. You're right. Our side has done exactly the same thing. Crunchy Frog Nov 2021 #30
Never have I ever said "exactly" Polybius Nov 2021 #31
Oh yes! The posts that people made here! Crunchy Frog Nov 2021 #32
You're making yourself look silly Polybius Nov 2021 #33
We had the "Hamilton Electors" and numerous peope donating LeftInTX Nov 2021 #28
Marc Elias is standing by for this race LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2021 #20
republicans already think they lost VA race. rockfordfile Nov 2021 #21
That makes me feel greatly relieved jmbar2 Nov 2021 #22
Obly if it's real lame54 Nov 2021 #24
No. Straw Man Nov 2021 #27

Tony_FLADEM

(3,023 posts)
2. It would be kind of difficult to do that since Democrats control the state
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 09:03 PM
Nov 2021

But I know what you mean. Give them a taste of their own medicine.

SmartJellyfish

(63 posts)
4. No
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 09:07 PM
Nov 2021

That is the line that should never be crossed. Someone has to maintain the high moral ground to keep the hope of democracy alive.

bucolic_frolic

(43,311 posts)
5. Pushing for a recount and claiming election fraud are two different things
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 09:19 PM
Nov 2021

Count every vote. That should be Democrat's mantra.

FSogol

(45,529 posts)
11. It is McAuliffe and secondly WTF? We don't act like repugs.
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 09:50 PM
Nov 2021

Get out the vote. If we all show up and vote, we win.

I seriously don't recognize this place sometimes.

FBaggins

(26,760 posts)
16. Only if there's evidence of fraud
Mon Nov 1, 2021, 10:11 PM
Nov 2021

Given the fact that the state is run by Democrats - that doesn't seem likely.

Crunchy Frog

(26,647 posts)
23. Really? We pulled the same shit in 2016
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 01:02 AM
Nov 2021

that Trump and the Rs are pulling right now? Hillary never conceded? The Obama administration wouldn't allow the transition process to begin? There was massive proliferation of batshit conspiracy theories and months of frivolous court cases, with Hillary constantly tweeting that SHE WON!!!

And of course, who could forget the violent storming of the Capitol by thousands of women wearing pink knit hats.

Yes, definitely tit for tat. Thanks for the reminder.

Crunchy Frog

(26,647 posts)
26. Which Democratic officials claimed fraud? Where did they claim the fraud occured?
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 01:51 AM
Nov 2021

What did they do to address these claims of fraud?

I'm genuinely curious.

Crunchy Frog

(26,647 posts)
32. Oh yes! The posts that people made here!
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 03:42 PM
Nov 2021

Complaining on a discussion board. So very much like violently storming the Capitol and threatening the lives of elected officials in order to try to prevent the certification of an election.

I get it now! You've completely persuaded me.

LeftInTX

(25,567 posts)
28. We had the "Hamilton Electors" and numerous peope donating
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 01:53 AM
Nov 2021

to Jill Stein because she promised recounts.

The "Hamilton Electors" actually changed their votes from Hillary to Trump and Rand Paul etc....
Jill Stein pocketed the money and there were no recounts.

jmbar2

(4,908 posts)
22. That makes me feel greatly relieved
Tue Nov 2, 2021, 12:47 AM
Nov 2021

My original question was prompted initially by feelings of spite. But reading through the responses, it occurred to me that if we cannot get voting rights strengthened, we may indeed see elections stolen from our side. Then, we need to think through our responses.

Marc Elias and his group are superstars of democracy. I am so grateful he is there.

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