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Demovictory9

(37,113 posts)
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 03:07 AM Nov 2021

A couple used surrogates to have 21 babies in less than 2 years.

A couple used surrogates to have 21 babies in less than 2 years. Experts say that having such a big family is unusual but could work.



https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/parenting/a-couple-used-surrogates-to-have-21-babies-in-less-than-2-years-experts-say-that-having-such-a-big-family-is-unusual-but-could-work/ar-AAQv6fI?ocid=msedgntp

Kristina and Galip Ozturk have had 21 biological children in 19 months using surrogates.

They join Kristina's 6-year-old and Galip's nine older children. Sixteen nannies help the family.

Experts say that if the family dynamic is healthy, raising this many children could be OK.

Kristina and Galip Ozturk have a big family. In the past 19 months, the couple, who live in the country Georgia, have used surrogates to welcome 21 biological children into their family.


"I can tell you one thing - my days are never boring," Kristina recently told The Sun.

The Ozturks' youngest baby is 3 months, and their oldest is 19 months. In addition to the babies, the couple live with Kristina's 6-year-old from a previous relationship and one of Galip's nine older children.

To provide that environment, the Ozturks rely on 16 live-in nannies and a variety of personal chefs, cleaners, and assistants, Kristina said on Instagram, adding that the nannies were not assigned specific children but rotated.

https://www.tori.ng/news/171701/story-of-millionaire-couple-who-spent-140k-on-surr.html

Detailing the finances of the situation, Galip and Kristina noted that they paid each surrogate £7,700 per pregnancy and their nannies were paid £350 a month each.

The nannies work four days on, two days off and live in the couple’s three story mansion where they have their own rooms and kitchen.

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Kristina said: "It costs about $5,000-$6,000 (£3,500-£4,200) per week for essentials for all the kids. Sometimes a little more, sometimes a bit less.

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The babies are: Mustafa, 14 months; Mariam, 13 months; Ayrin, 13 months; Alisa, 13 months; Hasan, one; Judi, one; Harper, 11 months; Teresa, 11 months; Huseyin, 11 months; Anna, 10 months; Isabella, 10 months; Ismail, nine months; Mehmet, nine months; Ahmet, nine months; Ali, eight months; Kristina, eight months; Sara, seven months; Lokman, seven months; Galip, six months; and Olivia, four months.


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A couple used surrogates to have 21 babies in less than 2 years. (Original Post) Demovictory9 Nov 2021 OP
Sorry, but oy veh... sprinkleeninow Nov 2021 #1
I know...and they already have 10 kids between them Demovictory9 Nov 2021 #2
Freaking nutjobs. lagomorph777 Nov 2021 #21
Ouch? Otoh, they gave life to 21 people who wouldn't have existed? Hortensis Nov 2021 #31
Giving life to 21 people is a good thing? lagomorph777 Nov 2021 #34
it's hard to tell from the picture but orleans Nov 2021 #3
crazy with too much money Demovictory9 Nov 2021 #4
Yep Irish_Dem Nov 2021 #14
Yep d_r Nov 2021 #12
Hoarding children? cate94 Nov 2021 #5
they stopped breeding because they ran out of names nt orleans Nov 2021 #6
Ran out of sperm. lagomorph777 Nov 2021 #22
That province will have to set up a dating registry to prevent future inbreeding, like Iceland. TheBlackAdder Nov 2021 #7
Trying not to be judgmental...who does that?? Ugh PortTack Nov 2021 #8
Conspicuous consumption and conspicuous conception. betsuni Nov 2021 #9
I have a spare 10,000 k bill North Shore Chicago Nov 2021 #10
Some people have too much money. Scrivener7 Nov 2021 #11
If they got 21 cats they would be called crazy cat people. LisaL Nov 2021 #13
Ugh. rownesheck Nov 2021 #15
They actually got 31 total. He had 9 children already and she had 1, prior to their marriage. LisaL Nov 2021 #16
Ew! rownesheck Nov 2021 #17
By the way, pop is a fugitive from Turkey, where he was supposed to be serving a life sentence. LisaL Nov 2021 #18
Well that's interesting. Didn't see this before I posted earlier in the thread. msfiddlestix Nov 2021 #25
Children of the Corn Marthe48 Nov 2021 #19
Every Sperm Is Sacred (in Monty Python's The Meaning Of Life) lagomorph777 Nov 2021 #23
The wholesale commodification of women's bodies janterry Nov 2021 #20
Seems to me there's a whole lot more to this story behind the numbers of children they msfiddlestix Nov 2021 #24
you have a point... it wouldnt happen without the government allowing. governments govern Demovictory9 Nov 2021 #26
Therapy is much cheaper. nt chowder66 Nov 2021 #27
Nobody should be sorry about their situation. LiberalFighter Nov 2021 #28
This. Not as long as the children are happy and well cared for. Hortensis Nov 2021 #32
Are they giving the Duggars a run for their money? Initech Nov 2021 #29
They have surpassed the duggans by 10 kids Demovictory9 Nov 2021 #30
That's $6300 per month under the Democratic child tax credit plan? Goodheart Nov 2021 #33
They don't pay taxes to the US, they live in Georgia FakeNoose Nov 2021 #36
Thanks. I know that Russia is concerned about a population decline... Goodheart Nov 2021 #38
So the nannies make 3 pounds/$4 an hour to watch to watch 8-9 babies each. meadowlander Nov 2021 #35
and room and board. Demovictory9 Nov 2021 #37

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
21. Freaking nutjobs.
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 09:56 AM
Nov 2021

They should be institutionalized and their kids placed in adoptive homes.

This is just evil. How did they get away with it?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
31. Ouch? Otoh, they gave life to 21 people who wouldn't have existed?
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 05:00 PM
Nov 2021

I'd hold off and wait to see how they feel about it.

In spite of the father's past, at this point it's irregular, can't agree with evil. Now, tearing them apart, institutionalizing, possibly never to see their parents or any of their brothers and sisters again...

Must be cuter than 5 baskets of puppies when they're playing.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
34. Giving life to 21 people is a good thing?
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 05:10 PM
Nov 2021

I don't get that...? It's not the same thing as saving 21 lives; it's adding 21 new people to an overcrowded home and overcrowded planet. Those kids will essentially be raised like they're in an orphanage; no possibility of significant parental attention. If they are lucky, the hired help will be efficient. If they're less lucky, it won't be pretty.

Holding off for some long period of years will completely miss the brief window of time when they develop the capacity to bond with other human beings. It's not possible to recover from that kind of neglect.

Irish_Dem

(79,889 posts)
14. Yep
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 06:50 AM
Nov 2021

This doesn't seem like a healthy situation.
This couple is too rich and spending their money foolishly.

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
7. That province will have to set up a dating registry to prevent future inbreeding, like Iceland.
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 04:01 AM
Nov 2021

LisaL

(47,358 posts)
13. If they got 21 cats they would be called crazy cat people.
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 06:31 AM
Nov 2021

At least Duggars produced each one naturally.

rownesheck

(2,343 posts)
15. Ugh.
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 08:08 AM
Nov 2021

Having that many kids should be illegal. I don't know at what number you could cut it off, but 21? Sounds a bit much.

LisaL

(47,358 posts)
16. They actually got 31 total. He had 9 children already and she had 1, prior to their marriage.
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 08:10 AM
Nov 2021

I guess he wants to populate the country with his offsrping?

LisaL

(47,358 posts)
18. By the way, pop is a fugitive from Turkey, where he was supposed to be serving a life sentence.
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 08:14 AM
Nov 2021

Not sure why msn article focused on how having that many kids could be just fine if family dynamic is healthy rather than on this little factoid.


"Their Instagram photos might present the idea of a picture-perfect life, however, there is more than meets the eye. Galip Ozturk is in fact a fugitive Turkish magnate who is wanted in his country for soliciting murder. He used his money and connections to escape a life sentence in Turkey and is currently settled in Georgia. He met his present wife, Kristina, a year ago in Georgia when she was only 23 years old. Galip and Kristina Ozturk are now being featured in global news for their extraordinarily 'large' family."



https://meaww.com/kristina-ozturk-husband-galip-ozturk-millionaire-turkish-murder-accused-30-kids

msfiddlestix

(8,162 posts)
25. Well that's interesting. Didn't see this before I posted earlier in the thread.
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 10:27 AM
Nov 2021

So now there's intrigue about being Most a Most Wanted Man by officials in Turkey.

Is this family Muslim? Or rather, is their a religious component behind the charge? Political?

I feel like the intention is to increase population for purposes yet to be made apparent or figured out.

Not just about having a houseful of kids.

Marthe48

(22,736 posts)
19. Children of the Corn
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 08:15 AM
Nov 2021

Boys from Brazil
Village of the Damned

Any other movies come to mind?


I can't imagine going through the roll call when you want a specific child, and you name off severa before you get to the one you mean.

msfiddlestix

(8,162 posts)
24. Seems to me there's a whole lot more to this story behind the numbers of children they
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 10:19 AM
Nov 2021

spawned. This just can't be about a "crazy" couple wanting a house full of kids.

Wouldn't surprise me to learn, pending further investigation, that this is in some way, government sponsored. it would be interesting to know more about the genetic, and/or religious factors in this particular case.

If Georgia is as concerned as Moscow (Putin) is regarding a severe drop in population because of national security concerns, sponsoring this sort of thing would offset that problem considerably in a few years. Consider how many children these children would have in 20 years.

Wonder how many others could be doing the same thing under international radar?

baby farms for future armies and/or other purposes.

sci-fi spooky, but not that unrealistic all things considering.





Demovictory9

(37,113 posts)
26. you have a point... it wouldnt happen without the government allowing. governments govern
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 03:34 PM
Nov 2021

surrogate pregnancy

FakeNoose

(40,218 posts)
36. They don't pay taxes to the US, they live in Georgia
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 05:19 PM
Nov 2021

... and the emigrated there from Turkey. I wonder if he's some kind of oligarch? Maybe the Georgian government has assured him of future income. Otherwise how will they be able to feed this many kids?

 

Goodheart

(5,760 posts)
38. Thanks. I know that Russia is concerned about a population decline...
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 05:35 PM
Nov 2021

maybe that's also the case in Georgia.

meadowlander

(5,098 posts)
35. So the nannies make 3 pounds/$4 an hour to watch to watch 8-9 babies each.
Wed Nov 10, 2021, 05:11 PM
Nov 2021

Seems legit and totally sustainable into toddlerhood.

If they were a daycare they would be shut down.

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