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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,233 posts)
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 11:20 PM Nov 2021

With TFG out of office, Republicans would prefer life in the 1950s, survey shows

Forget iPhones and the existence of the Dallas Cowboys.

A recent survey released by the Public Policy Research Institute (PPRI) and the Brookings Institution found that only 29 percent of Republicans say that American culture and way of life have changed for the better since the 1950s.

The number is a leap down from 2020 when 46 percent of Republicans said American culture and way of life had changed for the better since the 1950s, but is only two points off from what Republicans said in 2016, before Donald Trump was elected President.

“It is notable that Republicans have gone up in their views during the Trump administration at the end at the height of his presidency and just a year later they have dropped down to where they were when Trump was running for President back in 2016,” said Robert P. Jones, the founder of the PPRI.

“Clearly they thought Trump was taking it back to a version more consistent to the vision of the country that was more consistent with the 1950s.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/happy-days-trump-office-republicans-160906141.html

They're nostalgic for a time when blacks and women were mostly in the background. I wonder how many of them knew the highest tax bracket was 91%.

https://www.tax-brackets.org/federaltaxtable/1951

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With TFG out of office, Republicans would prefer life in the 1950s, survey shows (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2021 OP
Sure, until the have to LakeVermilion Nov 2021 #1
Yep, actual 50s is very different from nostalgia 50s. tanyev Nov 2021 #5
Yeah I would like to see them all Tree Lady Nov 2021 #19
78s were obsolete in the 50s... regnaD kciN Nov 2021 #15
Their precious AR-15 wasn't around for nearly the entire decade, either. GoCubsGo Nov 2021 #45
Thinking about my grandfather in the 50s the other day, shoveling coal into his furnace for heat. Liberal In Texas Nov 2021 #53
More like the 1850s - slavery not banned and no constitutional amendment for an income tax LonePirate Nov 2021 #2
Hell with the 50's. Texaswitchy Nov 2021 #3
Nor do I, but it certainly wasn't like Slobfather's America... regnaD kciN Nov 2021 #17
I'm sure they would give up all the Mr.Bill Nov 2021 #4
Lake Erie was Dead Fish Soup Captain Zero Nov 2021 #35
There hopes were dashed when their insurrection failed and NCjack Nov 2021 #6
Yahoo may like that word "Republicans" but I prefer to use "reTHUG Fascist abqtommy Nov 2021 #7
During the 2016 primaries SCantiGOP Nov 2021 #8
I wouldn't have imagined so many Republicans were fans of Pinback Nov 2021 #9
Before the Beatles? Cartoonist Nov 2021 #10
Best comment! skylucy Nov 2021 #14
No way! Boomerproud Nov 2021 #47
Did they prefer living in small houses with no AC? Nt spooky3 Nov 2021 #11
Thank you! Nt raccoon Nov 2021 #39
They wouldn't like it. Porn was a LOT harder to get back then... Wounded Bear Nov 2021 #12
They put a Sears catalog in your mailbox twice a year. Patterson Nov 2021 #30
I used to love going Chille Nov 2021 #31
It was a lot easier for them to shove their religion down everyone's throats, though. GoCubsGo Nov 2021 #46
They might choose not to get the polio vaccine! Or MMR! dchill Nov 2021 #13
Military draft, that was fun. Would they go themselves or send their sons Walleye Nov 2021 #16
Jim Crow era. Nothing more to see here! bullwinkle428 Nov 2021 #18
I was born in 1957 and remember a lot despite being a toddler. no_hypocrisy Nov 2021 #20
I was born the same year but don't remember the 50s Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2021 #21
I especially remember the TV shows that I watched from my playpen. no_hypocrisy Nov 2021 #23
Was born in '53 so... electric_blue68 Nov 2021 #36
Me either. Texaswitchy Nov 2021 #54
Do you remember the scary Kruschev commercials spooky3 Nov 2021 #42
Remember the bomb drills. Teacher no_hypocrisy Nov 2021 #52
My older siblings told me they were dog tags in school. Texaswitchy Nov 2021 #55
My grandma I_UndergroundPanther Nov 2021 #22
Instead of looking forward through clear eyes . . . Journeyman Nov 2021 #24
Good one nt spooky3 Nov 2021 #43
Their 'America-great" is John WAYNE *movies* - not draft-dodger John WAYNE *reality* UTUSN Nov 2021 #25
I'll take it. Trump wasn't alive in 1950 Anaico Nov 2021 #26
He was born in 1946, though the only damage he'd done at that point was bullying his brother. Rhiannon12866 Nov 2021 #27
He was but he was only 4 years old, so could cause only limited damage LeftishBrit Nov 2021 #33
Probably still pooping his pants then Nt spooky3 Nov 2021 #44
Probably Fred was already planning to contract some smart kid to take an IQ test Norbert Nov 2021 #50
So they want to live under a president that PortTack Nov 2021 #28
I'm all for going back to the income tax rates of the 1950's. Mariana Nov 2021 #29
The tax structure of the '50's is irrelevant mnhtnbb Nov 2021 #32
1850s. MAGA are the same ones fooled by the Royal Nonesuch in "Huckleberry Finn" except betsuni Nov 2021 #34
Don't tell them Unions were thriving back in the 1950s Norbert Nov 2021 #37
It was great for white middle class guys. Not so good for everyone leftyladyfrommo Nov 2021 #38
My husband just talked with an 80ish MOMFUDSKI Nov 2021 #40
Now ask them if they would prefer life in Russia. Midnight Writer Nov 2021 #41
They'll change their minds when they are reminded MissMillie Nov 2021 #48
We're already there in many ways. ananda Nov 2021 #49
Probably most of those surveyed were either not alive during the 50s MineralMan Nov 2021 #51

LakeVermilion

(1,044 posts)
1. Sure, until the have to
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 11:23 PM
Nov 2021

give up their cell phones, the internet, decent cars and transportation. Today's Ford 350 isn't your grandpa's Ford pickup. Let them go back to no cable news, black and white tv and warped 78 records.

tanyev

(42,622 posts)
5. Yep, actual 50s is very different from nostalgia 50s.
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 11:29 PM
Nov 2021

Even for the people who would have had a pretty good life in the actual 50s.

Tree Lady

(11,498 posts)
19. Yeah I would like to see them all
Sun Nov 14, 2021, 12:22 AM
Nov 2021

Cooking homemade, no door dish, uber eats, no drive through coffee or McDonalds, black and white tv without a remote. Mostly stick shift cars with no automatic anything.

Most households only had one car, push lawnmower and rake no blowers. Manual typewriters with carbon copies and I remember not allowed to make mistakes with invoices 4 copies thick.

Most people had party lines no private phone.

GoCubsGo

(32,095 posts)
45. Their precious AR-15 wasn't around for nearly the entire decade, either.
Sun Nov 14, 2021, 09:15 AM
Nov 2021

It came about in 1959, and the vast majority of the population had no access to it then. Could you imagine what the 50's would have been like if those fuckers had those things then? Holy shit.

Liberal In Texas

(13,579 posts)
53. Thinking about my grandfather in the 50s the other day, shoveling coal into his furnace for heat.
Sun Nov 14, 2021, 11:39 AM
Nov 2021

Up in the north with cold winters. No setting the thermostat and forgetting it. He had to go down to the basement periodically and shovel coal into the furnace. And once in awhile clear out the "clinkers" - the coal waste.

Yeah, most of these idiots weren't around in 50s and have no idea what they're talking about.

LonePirate

(13,431 posts)
2. More like the 1850s - slavery not banned and no constitutional amendment for an income tax
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 11:24 PM
Nov 2021

Plus legislatures can still legally appoint US Senators.

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
3. Hell with the 50's.
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 11:24 PM
Nov 2021

I was born then but I have no real memories of them.
Mostly vague memories.

I bet the Republicans would like to go back.

No competition for white men.


regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
17. Nor do I, but it certainly wasn't like Slobfather's America...
Sun Nov 14, 2021, 12:04 AM
Nov 2021

Yes, there was massive racial discrimination and women were second-class citizens, but there was also a heavily-graduated income tax, much more investment in the public good, and a predominantly-union workforce, things that would give Trumpians conniption fits. (Also, to be quite honest, someone like TFG would be a pariah in the eyes of most "decent ordinary folks.&quot I agree that they'd much prefer the 1850s, represented by the America of Uncle Tom's Cabin or the England of Charles Dickens.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
6. There hopes were dashed when their insurrection failed and
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 11:31 PM
Nov 2021

Congress was able to certify Biden's win.

Poor snowflakes.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
7. Yahoo may like that word "Republicans" but I prefer to use "reTHUG Fascist
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 11:33 PM
Nov 2021

Treasonous Traitors", since that's exactly what they are.

SCantiGOP

(13,874 posts)
8. During the 2016 primaries
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 11:35 PM
Nov 2021

I asked a Republican friend what he would do if Trump got the nomination, and was surprised when he said he would vote for him. During our ensuing argument, I asked him when he thought America had been great, and he said the 1950s.
I asked him if he thought he would say that if he were black, gay or very poor. He considered that for a moment, and then said, “Good point, but I would still vote Republican.”
Translation: I benefit too much from the white patriarchy to abandon it.

GoCubsGo

(32,095 posts)
46. It was a lot easier for them to shove their religion down everyone's throats, though.
Sun Nov 14, 2021, 09:20 AM
Nov 2021

As superficial as their practice of it was.

Walleye

(31,062 posts)
16. Military draft, that was fun. Would they go themselves or send their sons
Sun Nov 14, 2021, 12:02 AM
Nov 2021

Age 18 and you were pulled out of your civilian life to shoot weapons of war. Freedumb

no_hypocrisy

(46,202 posts)
20. I was born in 1957 and remember a lot despite being a toddler.
Sun Nov 14, 2021, 12:22 AM
Nov 2021

And I've read David Halberstam's The Fifties.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fifties_(book)

That was one scary decade. Nothing nostalgic about it. McCarthy was bad enough by himself. People just acted weird.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,233 posts)
21. I was born the same year but don't remember the 50s
Sun Nov 14, 2021, 12:34 AM
Nov 2021

My earliest continuous memory was from about 1960 or 1961.

no_hypocrisy

(46,202 posts)
23. I especially remember the TV shows that I watched from my playpen.
Sun Nov 14, 2021, 12:53 AM
Nov 2021

The commercials. What my town looked like. The inside of my father's car. My first movie was Gigi. My first sustained memory was Miami Beach when I was just 2. My first memory hands down was as an infant. When I was switched from breast milk to soy infant formula. (I know b/c when I tried soy milk for the first time, my first reaction was "Ugh! Baby formula!"

electric_blue68

(14,946 posts)
36. Was born in '53 so...
Sun Nov 14, 2021, 07:39 AM
Nov 2021

I have some memories of the mid-late 50's but nothing much related to the big, wide world then.

By '60 - '61 I knew about Kennedy vs Nixon, the first Space flights, and way more even beyond the USA.

I also heard about (the echoes of) rhe McCarthy and HUAC.


I feel enternally blessed to have 💖 been born in NYC to Liberal parents!

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
54. Me either.
Sun Nov 14, 2021, 07:59 PM
Nov 2021

I do not remember Eisenhower.

Only President Kennedy

I remember starting school in 1959.

I remember going to Sears and my Father always buying me a bag of popcorn and 25 cents of M&M's.

I remember the school because I walked home by myself.

Little things like that.

spooky3

(34,483 posts)
42. Do you remember the scary Kruschev commercials
Sun Nov 14, 2021, 09:06 AM
Nov 2021

Saying “we will bury you” and doing bomb drills at school?

no_hypocrisy

(46,202 posts)
52. Remember the bomb drills. Teacher
Sun Nov 14, 2021, 11:21 AM
Nov 2021

refused to explain why we were in the halls. After all, we went outside for fire drills.

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
55. My older siblings told me they were dog tags in school.
Sun Nov 14, 2021, 08:06 PM
Nov 2021

They lived with the polio scare.

I was to young for that.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,480 posts)
22. My grandma
Sun Nov 14, 2021, 12:36 AM
Nov 2021

And my mom told me alot about the 1950's

And I never want to live like the 1950's.

Fuck thier nostalgia feelings.

Rhiannon12866

(206,073 posts)
27. He was born in 1946, though the only damage he'd done at that point was bullying his brother.
Sun Nov 14, 2021, 03:12 AM
Nov 2021

Welcome to DU!

PortTack

(32,796 posts)
28. So they want to live under a president that
Sun Nov 14, 2021, 03:17 AM
Nov 2021

Supports social security, unions, a high tax rate- not tax cuts, continued new deal programs ..nah!

mnhtnbb

(31,405 posts)
32. The tax structure of the '50's is irrelevant
Sun Nov 14, 2021, 06:09 AM
Nov 2021

to most Republicans. What they crave is the social structure of the '50's where women stayed home, schools, neighborhoods, and the workplace were segregated, gays were in the closet, and white males were acknowledged as better than anyone else and treated accordingly because they made and enforced the rules.

Electing a Black man to the White House is what set them all off. They couldn't stand it. And they were gonna be damned if they'd allow a woman to follow up and be the next President.

betsuni

(25,643 posts)
34. 1850s. MAGA are the same ones fooled by the Royal Nonesuch in "Huckleberry Finn" except
Sun Nov 14, 2021, 06:29 AM
Nov 2021

they'll never admit The Trump Show is the same as the Royal Nonesuch.

MOMFUDSKI

(5,676 posts)
40. My husband just talked with an 80ish
Sun Nov 14, 2021, 08:46 AM
Nov 2021

man who owns a restaurant here in Treasure Island, FL. He was waxing nostalgic about how the 50's and 60's were the best of times. He is a raving repub, of course. In a nutshell . . .

MissMillie

(38,582 posts)
48. They'll change their minds when they are reminded
Sun Nov 14, 2021, 09:44 AM
Nov 2021

that top top marginal rate for Federal income tax was over 90%

ananda

(28,877 posts)
49. We're already there in many ways.
Sun Nov 14, 2021, 09:54 AM
Nov 2021

Losing Civil Rights

Losing Choice

Losing Civil Liberties

Restoring Jim Crow

etc.

MineralMan

(146,333 posts)
51. Probably most of those surveyed were either not alive during the 50s
Sun Nov 14, 2021, 10:23 AM
Nov 2021

or were children then. It's a stupid question to ask of people who did not experience life in that period.

I grew up in the 1950s. I graduated from high school in 1963. I'm now 76 years old. Anyone younger than me is unlikely to have much of a memory, if any, of that time period.

So, most of those surveyed are longing to return to a time they never experienced.

So, it's a worthless survey. Longing for the past is something people who don't remember the past do. The 50s sucked for so many people that they are impossible to count. I do remember.

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