Kyle vs. Trayvon

[Coventina]

Anyone who says racism and white privilege don't exist is displaying both.

edit: grammar

[live love laugh]

1. It's not vs. it's a continuum. nt

[Coventina]

2. No, it's absolutely vs. n/t

[live love laugh]

7. I was thinking of the victims in both cases. That's why I said that. nt

[Tommy Carcetti]

3. Kyle Rittenhouse v. Tamir Rice is more accurate to compare for a response.

If there's any direct comparison with the Trayvon Martin case, it's Kyle Rittenhouse as George Zimmerman 2.0.

[Coventina]

4. I understand your point and agree. Trayvon just popped into my head first.

This country is so fucked up.

[Tommy Carcetti]

5. That it is.

And what happened to Trayvon still infuriates me to no end.

[Coventina]

10. Me too, which is why he immediately came to mind.

[Coventina]

8. The fuck he was. n/t

[live love laugh]

9. Rittenhouse was chasing with a gun.

[yagotme]

11. If you play the video backwards, yes.

Otherwise, he is being chased.

[live love laugh]

24. The court didn't play it backwards when the judge nestled up to

him as he chased the victims.

[yagotme]

27. You and I must have viewed different videos.

The ones shown in court showed KR being chased.

[live love laugh]

30. Maybe you missed something. nt

[yagotme]

31. Well, if you have a link to a video showing KR attacking/advancing,

I would sure like to see it. Perhaps the prosecutors should have had a copy, too.

[Diablo del sol]

12. Trayvon was not chased?

Are you serious?

[Coventina]

22. Gun was not pointed at Rittenhouse. Not relevant. n/t

[Hoyt]

13. Definitely racism in Trayvon Martin case. And Rittenhouse is likely a racist, but this case was not.

[Coventina]

14. How do you figure that? Rittenhouse was there to shoot black people and their allies.

[Yarnie]

16. Of course,

all of the people he shot were white, so, there's that . . .

[Coventina]

17. Did you not read where I wrote "and their allies"?

RIF

[Yarnie]

18. Well, you did use the word "and." n/t

[Coventina]

23. Nobody had their guns pointed at him. He was the one with the gun who killed people.

He went hunting them with a gun.

[yagotme]

28. GG admitted on the stand that his gun was pointed at KR.

Still of video was also shown of same.

[Hoyt]

19. Except he didn't shoot any Black people, although I'm sure he would.

Entered trial thinking Rittenhouse would walk because first victim went after him and another had his own gun.

Then, I thought prosecution did a good job of making the provocation argument. So was hopeful. But "reasonable doubt" is hard to overcome in a case like this in a locality where anyone can walk down the street with a rifle hanging off their neck.

That's how I figure it.

[Coventina]

21. I said "and their allies." No reasonable person could doubt that this trial was about racism. n/t

[yagotme]

29. I'm betting that's why the jury took so long.

They asked for the instructions, including the self defense part. Determining if KR was actually retreating after the first confrontation, which wasn't nearly documented as well as the rest of the night. I guess they looked long and hard at what they did have, and it apparently appeared he was retreating, which satisfied the law.

[rockfordfile]

26. I agree

[JI7]

32. I think Zimmerman going free was FAR FAR WORSE than Rittenhouse verdict

Although if Rittenhouse was black he would probably be found guilty because black kids are not allowed to have have excuses for things and given another chance over things done as kids.