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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI hate to suggest this but I feel its needed
Little murderer gets off. Signals now that they'll start carrying and possibly hunting protesters, anyone of different color, basically anyone that isn't right, white and fucking fascist.
But I know how many here don't care for guns and such. But I think the time has come where we need to start to carry even in public. I know its jumping to an extreme and going down to their level. Hell I've been there for a bit with carrying on me and in my car. But I sadly believe this is the only thing to protect ourselves from these people now. Words won't matter when they can just shoot you without much trouble.
Pantagruel
(2,580 posts)provoking a shooting war, especially between races, is exactly the goal of these neo-nazis.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)But sure as hell wouldn't hesitate to shoot back if they shot first. Not so much starting it just protecting myself.
Ex Lurker
(3,814 posts)because you may not have a chance to shoot back.
Celerity
(43,416 posts)It works in 2 ways, both against us.
1. We cannot win a shooting war with the RW, there are too many of them (tens of millions, armed to the teeth) on balance compared to our side in far too many areas.
2. The fascists, when they attempt the auto-coup, will rely on those millions of fully armed, scientifically programmed and reflexively controlled RW white power thugs to put down the resistance. MAGA Battalions, backed up by LEO's, and if the nation is really going down quickly, the corrupted, compromised Armed Forces and various other sub-federal military organisations.
Tommy Carcetti
(43,182 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)LT Barclay
(2,606 posts)That I'm there to buy something to protect myself from right wingers. Then keep asking for something bigger and finally say what I want is one of those twin 50 caliber machine guns they used on the WW2 PT boats.
I'd love to get the reaction on hidden camera.
Cobalt Violet
(9,905 posts)pink
(497 posts)count as self defense. Is it legal to gun them down with an assault rifle.
Cobalt Violet
(9,905 posts)They're a threat.
Amishman
(5,557 posts)what do we have left to protect us? ourselves and each other.
That being said, a gun is not the only option. tasers, pepper spray, and others are probably good ideas to own if one is not comfortable with the idea of guns.
vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)I've had guns for a long time now and the past few years it's gotten to the point where I started carrying on me. Either kill or be killed now. And I'd frankly rather live
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)Do you seriously think someone will somehow know youre a Dem and come out of nowhere to cap you?
Good lord almighty. What a way to live.
vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)They'll know. It's not a way to live to be safe. Again why are you riding me on all my posts so hard?
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)Yeah! Lets all open carry! Yeah! Hell yeah. Woof!
Testosterone is poison. Hence Rittenhouse and his victiims
all male. Stupidity.
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vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)I don't have a need to flash it in public to make my dick look huge. I keep all of them safely stored and one in the locked box in my car. I'm not an idiot like they are. Thats the difference between the two
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)Color me confused.
Im a woman and whether I carry a gun or not has nothing to do with my genitals.
But your post was that we should all open carry, so Im all confused.
vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)But I'm a transwoman. It's them that feel compelled to carry in public to flash their toxic masculinity. That's what I mean.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)But you now feel the need to do the same?
My genital size, despite that not being important to me lol, is in no way affected by any weapons I might own. Females dont have this insecurity.
You started this thread claiming we should all open carry. Thats just not something I will ever feel the need to do.
Somebody who needs to carry a gun actually makes me think they might be a bit under endowed, lol.
Or, what this does, may just backfire on this kid. We know there are gun advocates on both sides of the political spectrum. Now, I believe this kid has a target on him. If he shows at protests, he will be video tapes out his ass. He may even become a targeted protester himself.
I think this needs to be a MAJOR CALL TO VOTE. As we see infrastructure passes, build back better passed house, injustice, white supremacy abound
I hope..HOPE AND MOTIVATE.. our party young and old to vote, and I want to hear from our reps
get out and spread the words, confront ANY REPUBLICAN WHO IS CLAIMING INFRASTRUCTURE WIN AS THEIR OWN. We know they didnt vote for it.
Haggard Celine
(16,847 posts)they learn how to use them and own them safely. I don't think it's a good idea for anyone other than cops to carry them around everywhere they go. I know it's legal in a lot of places, but I don't agree with it.
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,480 posts)Being transgender I fear I would become a target for maga turds.
The republicans hate most people.
They want to murder because sociopath bullies will look out for each other.
Please pass the voters rights act NOW. Or we might have a genocide vigilante situation happening here.
Tell manchin if he wont pass the voters act,and clings to the filibuster
Its time to ask him if he's a closet republican or fascist or a rethug mole.
Its worth asking because he gets in the way everytime the filibuster is threatened,or Biden wants to help middle class and poor people that are not upper class greedy assholes.
He even claimed the reason the bbb bill should not be too generous because he believed it would make suffering people get an entitlement mentality.
That is a core belief of repukes. He thinks just like a republican.
Its time to ask those uncomfortable questions.
Maybe publically.
vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)I'm trans too. I'm a target regardless of how feminine I get which is looking fabulous right now. But this trans can shoot and I wouldn't hesitate to keep myself alive. I'm a fighter.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)Ive been a female since birth, and if you think being female makes you LESS of a target, you need some education.
But wow, congrats on the fabulous part.
vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)It is transforming my body to be more feminine. But why are you riding me so hard? Like I need education? I know women have it hard I'm not stupid to not know women have shit thrown at them constantly. But transwoman being essentially the devils spawn. I could be killed just for that alone. Not just being a woman. But being trans.
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vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)For real that would be hard to carry
Backseat Driver
(4,393 posts)turned up all the way, but those don't really have the range of a handgun, etc...DH once had his traveler's Buck knife confiscated at the Canadian border - it was returned when we did, LOL!
My state law has embraced "Stand Your Ground" and a bill re licensing, your apparent choice, on CCW too, coming soon. Yep, can't wait as my community has also embraced DORA bracelet sales (approved open carry of alcohol during recreational community events/days at certain street locations) as well...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ohio-house-approves-bill-allowing-concealed-carry-without-permit/ar-AAQRZ1V
Backseat Driver
(4,393 posts)and assign appropriate beneficiaries (Can you get an uninsured shooter clause?), make a LW&T and advance directives, medical POA, and sufficient healthcare insurance with parity for mental/physical situations - These documents and costs of best preparation, I suppose, are also subject to currency inflation along with best advertising costs of expert estate planners? Then BE BRAVE, own your faith (as you define it) and make sure you're not in the wrong place at the wrong time. In addition, be sure you're a better shot, I guess???
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)Since you said anyone of a different color I wasnt sure.
And no, I dont plan to start carrying in public. You do you.
vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)That applies to those he killed
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)Curious.
vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)But my point was wingers targetting anyone that isn't like them is what I am saying
Tribetime
(4,699 posts)BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)I dont supply info that is so easily obtained.
Tribetime
(4,699 posts)Ig
Decoy of Fenris
(1,954 posts)Pretty much everyone involved had an extensive history. Domestic abuse, domestic violence, kidnapping, rape, child abuse, sexually assaulting children, attempted murder, weapons charges galore, drunk driving, you name it.
They didn't deserve to be executed, but there's a good reason the prosecution didn't bring "Character" into the trial.
Tribetime
(4,699 posts)Hotler
(11,425 posts)"The only good democrat is a dead democrat."
vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)Better dead than red. That applies fully heavily to the GQP fascist party
demmiblue
(36,865 posts)NO!
vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)Everyone has their choice.
ecstatic
(32,712 posts)but those of us who have the stomach for it definitely need to arm up and fight fire with fire. Sadly.
Wounded Bear
(58,670 posts)We're morphing into a comic book universe full of vigilante "justice."
Scary times coming.
KentuckyWoman
(6,688 posts)I will shoot food, am a better shot than most and have shot food many times in my life. As far as humans, in a test range I tend to make faster, more accurate decisions on what is a threat than most and my aim is excellent. I don't get flustered. Twice in younger life I have been in a situation but managed to de-escalate and avoid the need. Thankfully.
The truth is, I doubt I could kill someone to save my own skin. It would have to be an extra-ordinary circumstance where the lives of other defenseless people were immediately in the balance. Even then, I think I would hesitate.
Even when justified in the eyes of a jury under the laws as written pulling that trigger puts a hell of a crimp in a person's life. Even more so if they decide against you. So you'd better be sure.
What I am saying is if you are going to carry, you'd better be well practiced and know your limits. You have to be honest with yourself about what you will or will not do in the moment. Most people are far better off avoiding the situation in the first place. Think long and hard about it because once someone is dead, there's no going back.
DLevine
(1,788 posts)Never owned a gun, never will.
Steelrolled
(2,022 posts)There was a street fight that night in Wisconsin and guns were involved. No one should have died from it, but they were playing a dangerous game.