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roamer65

(36,745 posts)
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 03:22 PM Nov 2021

Get ready for two things with that fuck Rittenhouse.

1. Very large lawsuit in civil court.
2. Civil rights case from the DOJ.

They aren’t done with that fucker yet, IMO.

With wrongful death gun cases, you have two cases to win…the criminal and the civil.

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Get ready for two things with that fuck Rittenhouse. (Original Post) roamer65 Nov 2021 OP
OJ had assets. Socal31 Nov 2021 #1
True, but it still will attach stigma. roamer65 Nov 2021 #2
Not sure how it works, but if there is a FoxNewsSucks Nov 2021 #4
I worked with a guy who wasn't allowed to get... Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2021 #20
City of Kenosha has assets lapfog_1 Nov 2021 #9
Not likely to be a civil rights case Yarnie Nov 2021 #3
He was a minor inthewind21 Nov 2021 #6
And "everything" from his parents Yarnie Nov 2021 #7
Still serves as a deterrent to future whack jobs localroger Nov 2021 #11
Not in Wisconsin. former9thward Nov 2021 #19
Wisconsin law prevents that. former9thward Nov 2021 #18
Wasn't he from Illinois though? NickB79 Nov 2021 #33
Where the wrongful act occurred. former9thward Nov 2021 #35
The kid may not be a turnip for a little while localroger Nov 2021 #8
He'll auction off his AR15 now. The NRA will probably exhibit it in their national firearms museum. sop Nov 2021 #12
Look for immediate copycat killings. What's stopping them in WI? NOTHING! 634-5789 Nov 2021 #5
This idea Busterscruggs Nov 2021 #17
I can assure you that it's coming. 634-5789 Nov 2021 #22
Even if I dont Busterscruggs Nov 2021 #23
He killed white men. nt BlackSkimmer Nov 2021 #26
He killed white men Busterscruggs Nov 2021 #31
3. A guest star interview with Tucker Carlson? bullwinkle428 Nov 2021 #10
Kyle Rittenhouse "Dancing With the Stars" Greybnk48 Nov 2021 #34
I figure there will be a book/movie deal within a year... Wounded Bear Nov 2021 #13
What? "My Life as a Loser." ? BlackSkimmer Nov 2021 #28
All the better to spin it up into a Gun-toting hero saga... Wounded Bear Nov 2021 #29
I can think of a few things I'd rather have the DoJ do Retrograde Nov 2021 #14
TH said he raised mikeysnot Nov 2021 #15
... Crepuscular Nov 2021 #21
I thought you were going to say pundit or House of Representatives..... nt Carlitos Brigante Nov 2021 #16
There are no civil rights aspects to the case. former9thward Nov 2021 #24
Bingo DetroitLegalBeagle Nov 2021 #27
A civil rights case from the DOJ would be a bad idea Polybius Nov 2021 #25
Former more likely than latter. Tommy Carcetti Nov 2021 #30
more like 1. hailed in media as RW folk hero, 2. offered symbolic job as staffer for RWNJ rep 0rganism Nov 2021 #32

Socal31

(2,484 posts)
1. OJ had assets.
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 03:27 PM
Nov 2021

Spending six-figures to win a civil judgement against someone with no money or property , who can just BK out of it anyway, is a losing strategy.

But I understand the instinct.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
2. True, but it still will attach stigma.
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 03:28 PM
Nov 2021

I think they will do it just to make him wear it for the rest of his life.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,434 posts)
4. Not sure how it works, but if there is a
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 03:30 PM
Nov 2021

substantial judgement far beyond the ability of the murderer & family to pay, can that be considered a debt that they will have to pay on into the future?

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
20. I worked with a guy who wasn't allowed to get...
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 04:16 PM
Nov 2021

... a driver's license until he paid all of the damages from an automobile accident when he didn't have insurance.

He was barely paid above minimum wage, so he gave up on the idea of ever driving again.

With his income, minus the cost of necessities like food, it would probably take about 100 years for him to pay what the judge assessed against him.

Edit: I think what Rittenhouse did was worse than my former co-worker, who didn't even kill anyone with his car. Not to mention it was an accident (when he wasn't impaired), whereas someone carrying a high-powered rifle to a protest makes killing someone with it not so much an accident!

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
9. City of Kenosha has assets
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 03:40 PM
Nov 2021

and I suspect there will be a civil judgement against the police for not, at the very least, telling Kyle to leave the area.

 

Yarnie

(90 posts)
3. Not likely to be a civil rights case
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 03:29 PM
Nov 2021

and you can't get blood out of turnip, so the victim/survivors can sue all they want, but won't get much of anything. Except maybe his AR.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
6. He was a minor
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 03:33 PM
Nov 2021

He was a minor at the time of the murders. His parents are responsible for him. One could take everything his parents own or ever hope to own.

 

Yarnie

(90 posts)
7. And "everything" from his parents
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 03:37 PM
Nov 2021

might be their $50 bank account, and a junker car. They are in poverty, and most likely will always remain that way. There isn't anything to be gotten from suing them.

localroger

(3,629 posts)
11. Still serves as a deterrent to future whack jobs
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 03:42 PM
Nov 2021

Rodney Peairs, who shot Japanese exchange student Yoshihiro Hattori, was acquitted of murder because of Louisiana's "stand your ground" laws but the family of his victim sued him in civil court and won a judgement that deprived him of his house. He also lost his job. The significance to Hattori's family wasn't getting the money, but punishing him for the murder.

former9thward

(32,025 posts)
18. Wisconsin law prevents that.
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 04:12 PM
Nov 2021

Wisconsin has a parent liability law which limits their liability to $5,000.

localroger

(3,629 posts)
8. The kid may not be a turnip for a little while
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 03:37 PM
Nov 2021

As a hero to the reich wingers they will undoubtably stuff his GoFundMe coffers. A suit would be a nice counter to that. You are right about the DOJ though, his victims were not members of a specifically protected class so the civil rights laws don't apply. And the same "retreating" angle that saved him here will probably make a hate crime prosecution unattractive too.

sop

(10,193 posts)
12. He'll auction off his AR15 now. The NRA will probably exhibit it in their national firearms museum.
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 03:45 PM
Nov 2021
 

Busterscruggs

(448 posts)
23. Even if I dont
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 04:28 PM
Nov 2021

Reside in WI, I will still worry about all of those black lives that will be finished by these extremists

 

Busterscruggs

(448 posts)
31. He killed white men
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 05:40 PM
Nov 2021

That were trying to support and show solidarity with black men. The repukes desperately want to get us all

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
28. What? "My Life as a Loser." ?
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 05:21 PM
Nov 2021

What is there to write about? Bullied kid who tried to act tough. He’s barely 18.

Got away with it.

There’s nothing there to write about.

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
29. All the better to spin it up into a Gun-toting hero saga...
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 05:32 PM
Nov 2021


(I never said I would watch such bullshit. )

Retrograde

(10,137 posts)
14. I can think of a few things I'd rather have the DoJ do
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 03:47 PM
Nov 2021

focus on the January 6th insurgents, for one, and start going after some bigger fish there. And then start looking at the various Hatch Act violations and self-serving actions of people associated with the previous administration - and yes, I'm looking at you too, Ivanka and Jared.

mikeysnot

(4,757 posts)
15. TH said he raised
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 03:48 PM
Nov 2021

Half a million from dumbass supporters.. he does have skin in the game if his lawyer doesn’t take it all.

former9thward

(32,025 posts)
24. There are no civil rights aspects to the case.
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 04:29 PM
Nov 2021

The DOJ will not file a case.

Civil suits will go nowhere with a not guilty verdict. For those who bring up the OJ example there are two glaring differences. OJ had a ton of money. Also most people believed OJ was guilty. That is not the case here. The same peer of people that found R not guilty would make up a jury in a civil case.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,924 posts)
27. Bingo
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 05:19 PM
Nov 2021

I expect neither. I do expect civil suits against the city though. Except for Grosskreutz. His civil suit is over after his testimony.

Tommy Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
30. Former more likely than latter.
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 05:38 PM
Nov 2021

I think civil rights would be a nebulous terrain for DOJ in this particular case.

But I do forsee a wrongful death suit against Rittenhouse. He might not have assets now, but they'll be fundraising heavily on him going forward.

0rganism

(23,957 posts)
32. more like 1. hailed in media as RW folk hero, 2. offered symbolic job as staffer for RWNJ rep
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 05:43 PM
Nov 2021

and let's not forget
3. case used as precedent for excusing fascist vigilantism for the foreseeable future

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