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Just as sick to my stomach as I was when: (Original Post) LakeArenal Nov 2021 OP
Same here. Diamond_Dog Nov 2021 #1
Right there with you, my dear LakeArenal... CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2021 #2
Yeah, I am to. n/t TDale313 Nov 2021 #3
Everyone knows that racism is alive and well in this country... this verdict comes as no surprise. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2021 #4
There are some dark forces at work. Initech Nov 2021 #5
No, not me. anotherOKIE Nov 2021 #6
That's how I feel too. StarryNite Nov 2021 #7
Keep fighting Boydog Nov 2021 #8
We're going to have to take that literally... SergeStorms Nov 2021 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2021 #30
I know. It's so sickmaking. ananda Nov 2021 #9
I'm not only in Shock by the verdict. Dreampuff Nov 2021 #10
homicide too high. and he blubbered. hope is life sucks like zimmerman's. becaise not guilty is buls pansypoo53219 Nov 2021 #11
You are lucky to be out of the US. mnhtnbb Nov 2021 #12
We moved here right before covid and not because of trump. LakeArenal Nov 2021 #13
Me too Bettie Nov 2021 #14
Keep fighting. We've just got to pound the hell outta them Boydog Nov 2021 #15
When I lived abroad, many acquaintances confided that they envision America like the wild, wild west Mr. Ected Nov 2021 #16
It's our inherent gun culture. SergeStorms Nov 2021 #19
OJ comes to mind. live love laugh Nov 2021 #18
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2021 #20
I'm just angry all the time. My light good natured self is gone and I'm not airmid Nov 2021 #21
I hear you. Delphinus Nov 2021 #23
Yes, same here @LakeArenal. This was a very sad day. n/t iluvtennis Nov 2021 #22
After TFG was elected I told a friend I was sick to my stomach about it Delmette2.0 Nov 2021 #24
It has been a flood, hasn't it? Dave says Nov 2021 #25
Same, but I must add the day Jr was elected......twice Ferrets are Cool Nov 2021 #26
Must pass the voting bill housecat Nov 2021 #27
Yes and also something for the whole country to Rally behind Biden about Tribetime Nov 2021 #28
Same here. Artistree22 Nov 2021 #29
Yes, never forget Sandy Hook. llmart Nov 2021 #34
My stomach turned over when I heard the verdict. pazzyanne Nov 2021 #31
Thank G-d for these group therapy sessions! 70sEraVet Nov 2021 #32
the RW of this country llashram Nov 2021 #33
Yes, I am so sickened by it all. Akacia Nov 2021 #35
I still can't read or listen to any of it. LakeArenal Nov 2021 #36
It's hard being an underdog. CrispyQ Nov 2021 #37
Thanks. Everyone needs some good vibe out there for them. LakeArenal Nov 2021 #38
I'm in a dark place as well. The difference with climate change Boomerproud Nov 2021 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author panader0 Nov 2021 #40
The awful litany is getting WAAAY too long! lastlib Nov 2021 #41

anotherOKIE

(90 posts)
6. No, not me.
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 05:52 PM
Nov 2021

I reached the low point when dRump was elected. That is THE low point for me and, so far, nothing else has quite come that close.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
17. We're going to have to take that literally...
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 07:11 PM
Nov 2021

now, and not just as encouragement to persevere. It's already at that point, so don't go bringing a protest sign to a gun fight.

Response to SergeStorms (Reply #17)

pansypoo53219

(20,981 posts)
11. homicide too high. and he blubbered. hope is life sucks like zimmerman's. becaise not guilty is buls
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 06:48 PM
Nov 2021

he should have plead to a lesser charge. plus. judge bullshit.

mnhtnbb

(31,392 posts)
12. You are lucky to be out of the US.
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 06:48 PM
Nov 2021

We are living in a very fu*ked up country, full of racists, bigots, misogynists, and armed to the teeth. Looking for any chance to assert white male supremacy, especially using firearms.

It's always been here: the orange one gave these a$$holes permission to act violently on their sick, twisted beliefs, and there are plenty of others happy to help them get away with it.

LakeArenal

(28,820 posts)
13. We moved here right before covid and not because of trump.
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 06:51 PM
Nov 2021

But so so lucky to be out US in this “third world” paradise.

Bettie

(16,110 posts)
14. Me too
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 06:54 PM
Nov 2021

People have taken their masks off. Gone are the days of "agree to disagree" because it isn't about ideology. It is about basic morality.

Boydog

(718 posts)
15. Keep fighting. We've just got to pound the hell outta them
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 06:56 PM
Nov 2021

We simply have to learn to fight like they do. We need to unify and keep pounding their asses.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
16. When I lived abroad, many acquaintances confided that they envision America like the wild, wild west
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 06:59 PM
Nov 2021

As much as we had hoped that Americans had evolved over the past several decades, it's quite apparent that we have not. There will always be a racist, bigoted, uninformed contingent that devalue life and will take it away from you if they feel like it.

I never once got that feeling living in Europe for 8 years.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
19. It's our inherent gun culture.
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 07:16 PM
Nov 2021

Everything is solved with killing anyone who disagrees with us. This is one of the most primitive countries in the world. We're the biggest "shithole country" on the planet.

Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

airmid

(500 posts)
21. I'm just angry all the time. My light good natured self is gone and I'm not
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 07:18 PM
Nov 2021

sure I can ever get that back. I’m angry, disgusted, exhausted and just feel empty.

Delmette2.0

(4,166 posts)
24. After TFG was elected I told a friend I was sick to my stomach about it
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 07:29 PM
Nov 2021

She never talked to me again.

It is no big loss. I was getting iritated with all her "I'll pray for you." instead of a simple good bye.

Dave says

(4,618 posts)
25. It has been a flood, hasn't it?
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 07:32 PM
Nov 2021

Then again, the fire is always burning. Civil rights; MLK, JFK, and Bobby; Nixon and enemy lists; WWII; the Great Depression; WWI - you get the point.

On edit, I skipped over too much: GWB-Cheney and the Iraq War; the trillions wasted on killing in Iraq and Afghanistan; 9-11: December 12, 2000, etcetera.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,107 posts)
26. Same, but I must add the day Jr was elected......twice
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 07:36 PM
Nov 2021

I am so upset. I can't believe I live in "this" country. I'm not sad, I'm devastated.

Artistree22

(40 posts)
29. Same here.
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 08:09 PM
Nov 2021

Starting with Sandy Hook and the rest of your list- I am shaking. The fact that Anthony tried to stop someone who shot someone else and was killed by this coward who claims self defense- IS SICKENING. Anthony was braver than most people- for sure.

Now that our great state of Texas has expanded gun rights to these types of vigilantes, I am not happy. They want that upper hand to intimidate us from speaking up and holding them in check when they are being assholes or for us to be hesitant about attending protests. I am someone who has never shied away from standing up for others in certain situations but I would be weary of becoming the target of one of these cowards with a gun. I don't even put any political stickers on my car anymore because of these unhinged idiots. In the days of bush jr, I used my truck as billboard by writing/drawing my anti -bush and anti- war statements in the dirt and only rarely did I get flipped off. These days, I feel like these cowards with guns are just looking for an incident like little man- boy kyle.

The trial was a ridiculous sham from the beginning. Underage vigilante gets a gun illegally and ends up murdering 2 people. He gets to take 2 lives and not even get have to give up any of his life for it is just wrong. Like you said, it makes me sick to my stomach because it seems not only justice doesn't matter, people are cheering him on for his actions. I think that's the part that just adds to my despair about our future. I feel we are a stone's throw away from the brutal lynch mob mentality in parts of our society.

The only things that keeps me going are my Mom,(most of family is rightwing-love em but don't like them) pets, a few friends, riverlife and the best group of students I have ever had. I do have a lot of hope in them as I see their compassion and they are way more aware than I was when I was a teen.

Peace n love
I also want to say thanks to all of you here. I've been reading your intelligent and heartfelt posts for years. Thanks for keeping me sane and informed.

llmart

(15,540 posts)
34. Yes, never forget Sandy Hook.
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 11:53 AM
Nov 2021

That one will never leave me. I still cannot watch any clips of those kindergarteners walking out of that school without losing it completely.

This punk Rittenhouse - karma will get him. I have to believe that. He has to live with this for the rest of his life. I hope the rest of his life is miserable.

pazzyanne

(6,556 posts)
31. My stomach turned over when I heard the verdict.
Fri Nov 19, 2021, 08:26 PM
Nov 2021

My heart is sick tonight. I wanted justice and I, as well as America, did not get justice today. America, rule of law, and Americans lost today.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
33. the RW of this country
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 11:33 AM
Nov 2021

have carried the day in the rittenhouse verdict. Yet this is a bellwether of things as they have ALWAYS been in this country. Starting with the killing of Native Americans after 'the first thanksgiving'. The story is bullshit by the way.

Akacia

(583 posts)
35. Yes, I am so sickened by it all.
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 12:04 PM
Nov 2021

After hearing about it I could not bear to listen to any more news stories about it. I thought that he would at the very least be found guilty of lessor charges. Reminded me a whole lot of how I felt after OJ`s trial and verdict.

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
37. It's hard being an underdog.
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 12:35 PM
Nov 2021

I feel like I've been on the underdog team my entire life. We've had some wins, for sure. Made progress, for sure. And I came to terms with the fact that you can never let up. Never let your guard down. But recently it feels like we're backsliding. That we're losing. And when I tell myself not to get discouraged, that's what they want, I remember in the background is climate change. It's hard to be optimistic that progress will prevail.

Sending some virtual good vibes your way.

Boomerproud

(7,955 posts)
39. I'm in a dark place as well. The difference with climate change
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 01:57 PM
Nov 2021

is it has/will affect everyone and everything. Gated communities and $$$ aren't going to protect anyone. Will finger pointing make any difference when we're all suffering?

Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

lastlib

(23,248 posts)
41. The awful litany is getting WAAAY too long!
Sat Nov 20, 2021, 05:08 PM
Nov 2021

RFK assasination
Reagan elected 1980
John Lennon murder
Bush v. Gore decision
Vote for Iraq war
Ted Kennedy death
RBG death
........ad infinitum

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