For reasons that are obvious, will you consider arming yourself?

[Stinky The Clown]

Maybe just in Wisconsin? Maybe everywhere?

Do you think carrying will now become more widespread? Do you think intimidation at the point of a gun will become more commonplace?

[phylny]

1. No.

[secondwind]

2. No.

[rurallib]

3. Until Trump became president I never thought about it

Now I think about it probably once a week. So Far I am still a no, but even having to think about it os scary.

I have no delusions that I could ever outdraw anyone.

[Tommy Carcetti]

4. I still am inclined to personally avoid guns at all cost.

Unless my family or I are under a direct threat of violence, I don't foresee owning a gun.

Haven't reached that point yet, and hopefully never will.

They're instruments specifically designed for the purpose of killing and I am not really a fan of having one around unless it is absolutely required for my safety.

[Froggyproggy]

61. What to do

The first instance that you realize you’re in danger could be your last.

[Tommy Carcetti]

75. That sounds like a terrible way to live.

And I don’t feel like living that way.

[Drum]

5. Would consider n/t

[beaglelover]

6. No.

[TheRealNorth]

7. Did it last year

I saw Jan 6th coming from a mile away. And after the Minneapolis Police went into hiding until the National Guard showed up, I decided I couldn't count on them to protect me from the criminal element either.

[Scottie Mom]

8. No. Actually, hell no. EOM.

[jmbar2]

9. No

I'm in a safe blue town

[Sympthsical]

10. Newp

Why?

Because I would have never been in that situation to begin with.

Some years ago, not too long ago, I was somewhere a riot broke out maybe a quarter of a mile away at the time. Things set on fire, windows being smashed. The usual things you see during a riot. It's the Bay Area. It happens. Did I go, "This sounds like fun. I should go watch. Maybe walk right into the middle of it even. What could go wrong?"

No. I got in my car and drove my happy ass in the opposite direction.

[gay texan]

11. Yep.

Shit is getting crazy in this state.

[leftieNanner]

12. Nope

Never.

[Steelrolled]

13. No. Silly overreaction.

Stay out of street fights instead.

[LiberalArkie]

14. Maybe, my neighbors fly this

[Earth-shine]

19. That flag screams facsist USA.

It's like something from the "negative universe."

[LiberalArkie]

30. This

https://www.salon.com/2021/10/12/black-flag-understanding-the-trumpists-latest-threatening-symbol/?fbclid=IwAR0tasWHaLL7axDxs00H6MpaPpYdokyPrbcNhyZb2p0rRF3HIumF-uO6kL4

[Bluethroughu]

20. Yikes, treason flag of racists.

[LiberalArkie]

29. Death to those that are vaccinated, the Democrats etc.

https://www.salon.com/2021/10/12/black-flag-understanding-the-trumpists-latest-threatening-symbol/?fbclid=IwAR0tasWHaLL7axDxs00H6MpaPpYdokyPrbcNhyZb2p0rRF3HIumF-uO6kL4

[BlackSkimmer]

28. Please post a pic of an actual place flying that.

All I hear about this nonsense is here,

[LiberalArkie]

36. Here

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[BlackSkimmer]

39. Mmkay. Maybe try showing an actual house.

I live in deep red county. I’ve yet to see this flag.

And the stupid tfg flags came down months ago.

[Meowmee]

53. We have three trump humpers

Very close by not in “seeing”distance tg who are still flying th flags and crap. One drives around with two huge flags on a truck. And those are only the ones close by that I have noticed from walks and driving past.

[Hekate]

63. I live on the Central Coast, California, in a serene neighborhood...

… not gated. Just a block up the hill from us is an orthopedist — you know, a medical doctor, not one of the downtrodden blue-collar masses. I began to think maybe he would never take down his gigantic Trump flag, but he finally did. More recently he took down his Impeach Gov Newsom flag. Don’t Tread on Me came down only recently. But he is still flying a discolored replica US flag with something effacing it — it’s very limp, so it’s hard to tell, but I am pretty sure it’s nothing nice.

Recently a young couple moved in with their small children, about half a block from us, and one of his pals who helped him move in drove a pickup truck all bedecked with Trump flags. That was only a couple of months ago.

I was curious about the all-black flags so I visited Amazon, and discovered that there are multiple vendors, and that the product is highly rated and is a best-seller. It’s the “no quarter” flag, which means they will shoot to kill.

By the way, I’m not posting any pictures of my neighborhood, so you'll just have to take my word for it.

[Voltaire2]

125. The poster knows for a true fact that

no such flag is flying anywhere.

[Hekate]

126. Read about its existence here awhile back, which is why I checked Amazon. Haven't seen it IRL...

Yet.

[Thtwudbeme]

100. Please do not ask fellow DUers to post a photo

of a house close to where they live.

You may not realize how much time stalkers will spend looking for someone on the internet, and how much information you can get from a photo.

[BlackSkimmer]

103. People post photos here all the time. Nowhere did I say anything about "close to where they live."

It’s entirely up to them.

But don’t you worry, no one is going to post a photo of that flag flying anywhere, because it’s not.

[Voltaire2]

124. Wow you seem very sure about that.

Odd

[DavidDvorkin]

15. No.

[BlackSkimmer]

27. Well dayum, we shore happy we got yew tough guys.

Yessiree

[Hoyt]

55. +1.

[Devil Child]

143. I'm way more invested in prepping and getting tough

on my massive pile of leaves that needs raking. No time or need for civil-war fantasy.

[TheRealNorth]

32. Exactly

TFG had plans to sic the Proud Boys on anyone who resisted had their coup been successful. Who do you think is going to protect the people that dared protest the coup? The KKKenosha police department sure the hell wasn't going to protect us from the Proud Boys.

[Skittles]

93. you're starting to behave just like a real, actual gun humper

so now DUers are pimping for more guns? WTF

DONE HERE

[BlackSkimmer]

104. Why in the world is someone going to kick your door in?

For what possible reason?

[Hoyt]

54. Every gunner I've ever met thought he'd be a hero. I ain't carrying a gun

in public.

[Skittles]

92. they are ridiculous

they watch too many movies

[Earth-shine]

17. I don't own guns now, but I'm thinking about it ...

... a shotgun near the front door.

[Bluethroughu]

18. Nope.

Not afraid of life, and I'm not contributing to the "Lord of Wars".

There will a lot of blood in the streets moving forward. The question is HOW MUCH UNTIL WE CHANGE OUR LAWS?

[sinkingfeeling]

21. No guns for me, but my answers to your last two questions are 'yeses'.

[Ocelot II]

22. No, of course not.

[LowerManhattanite]

23. Yes.

Absolutely.

[Freddie]

24. DH owns a gun

Leftover from his duck hunting days, but it still works and he has ammo. Says the way things are he’s glad he owns one, “us liberals have 2nd amendment rights too.”

[NightWatcher]

25. Already heavily armed. (Work thing).

[BlackSkimmer]

26. Because of some silly little boy in Wisconsin?

All this terror on DU is perplexing to me.

Get a grip people.

[Hoyt]

56. +1.

[bluedigger]

65. I ain't a 'scairt of no homicidal adolescent.

But that frickin' jury terrifies me.

[NickB79]

87. If you haven't noticed the very 1930's-Germany path the US is on right now

You aren't very observant.

[BlackSkimmer]

105. Guess you missed the last election.

Not a fan of our man in the WH?

Maybe this isn’t the site for you.

[NickB79]

116. And you missed the election before that

You know, where we elected a power hungry totalitarian who ALMOST succeeded in overthrowing our democracy? And who now holds rallies instead of sits in prison?

Given the shit happening in this nation, the kid gloves we're treating the right with, and the general stupidity gripping most Americans, I'm not at all confident we can wake enough people up to hold the House, Senate or White House in the next few years.

Trump was the prototype. He wasn't the finished product. That's yet to come. Will Americans be able to see through it again, when they polish another turd and put him on a suit, complete with nationalistic catch phrases again?

And I've been here since Al Gore was running.

[BlackSkimmer]

117. Glass half empty kinda guy huh?

You do you.

[JI7]

136. +

I bet these are the same ones whose "conscience" have trouble voting for the democratic candidate for not being pure enough during elections.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

129. +100. nt

[JI7]

135. Yup, it's the exact type of bs right wingers use . The same reasons

to oppose it still applies here.

[randr]

31. I was a Boy Scout

I am still prepared!

[ananda]

33. No to arming myself. Yes to everything else.

nt

[sarisataka]

34. According to a recent poll here

Over half of DU is already armed.

[Skittles]

91. gun humpers have won

half of the population is either a gun humper or afraid of gun humpers

[nevergiveup]

35. I have my childhood Red Ryder BB Gun.

That is presently and will forever more be the extent of my personal arsenal.

[Kaleva]

66. You'll shoot your eye out.

[SammyWinstonJack]

76. For those backyard marauders? You'll shoot your eye out.

[Ferryboat]

37. Grew up hunting, long guns safely stored.

Its only in the last few years that I've considered everyday carrying.

RW nutters have been advocating civil war, asking when they can start shooting. Waiting for a call to arms. They got their answer today.

I'm under no illusion that this is a good idea. Time to remove my Bernie bumper sticker.

[Jilly_in_VA]

38. I've been thinking about it

I have several neighbors that are seriously Fascist. I know by the flags they fly. Some of them also drink a lot. So yeah.

[Sherman A1]

41. No

Don't want a gun, not buying a gun.

[DinahMoeHum]

42. Yes.

Unfortunately.

[hlthe2b]

43. No. Unless you count bearspray which I keep near the front door and pepperspray that I keep

on my keychain.

I don't want to have to live with the possibility of killing an innocent person. I'm not sure I want to live with the thought of killing a not-so-innocent person either.

[hunter]

44. I want an MQ-1 equipped with hellfire missiles.

They'll never know what hit 'em.

w

[MarineCombatEngineer]

130. I want this:

A-10 Warthog.

[hunter]

141. Yeah, that will work too. And these planes are very resistant to small arms fire from the ground...

... however unlikely it is that some guy hiding in the bushes with his "military style" rifle is ever going to hit one.

My wild west great grandmothers had a more direct approach in dealing with fools and their guns, as in "If you bring a gun into my house, I'll kill you while you sleep."

And I don't know, they may have killed a few bad men and called the Sheriff-Coroner to clean up the mess and file the proper paperwork.

They didn't have any problem with guns in general, they themselves were hunters, but they didn't have any tolerance of gun fuckery. If you were caught fucking around with a gun at seventeen you went on their fool list, probably for life.

I never got in trouble with guns. I've eaten animals I've killed, but not here in the 21st century. I wouldn't want to hunt these days with all the fools out there who just want to shoot and don't really care about the eating.

I was more infatuated with fire, rockets, and explosives. Explosives could get you in trouble too. My grandma had a friend who'd blown his hand off with dynamite. That was back in the day when any fool could buy dynamite at the hardware store and some fools did.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

142. +100.

Been around firearms all my life, but after 35 years in the Corps, and seeing the damage firearms do to a human body, I decided not to own or have any firearm in my home or my truck but I have no problem with RESPONSIBLE firearm ownership.

[we can do it]

45. No

[TreasonousBastard]

46. No.

[Elessar Zappa]

47. I have two guns in my house.

A 12 gauge shotgun and a Colt 45. I’m prepared to defend myself if necessary but I don’t carry and never would unless the shit hit the fan.

[Buckeyeblue]

48. I've been thinking about it

I live amongst a bunch of low IQ Trumpy's and covid deniers. I may at some point need to defend my family against them.

[budkin]

49. No

Hell No

[Hekate]

50. Not for me, thanks. Ethically, I think it's a bad idea. Physically, I never had the eyesight.

I think we are in for some bad times, though.

[xmas74]

51. I'm in Missouri

And yes

[GusBob]

52. We have many guns in our household, for hunting

We do not propose they will be needed for the purposes you are implying

[Meowmee]

57. For physical reasons

I could not fire any gun. Prolly would not anyway. But I do have mace for sp and have had for many years. Sadly I do believe there will be more violence. It is open season now. In my state though we have better gun laws.

[Crunchy Frog]

58. No. I have young boys in the house.

I feel that it would be too risky.

[TheRealNorth]

79. That's understandable

Especially if you didn't grow up around guns.

[NewHendoLib]

59. no.

[Kali]

60. well, I already am armed

But not necessarily for the reason you're suggesting. My usage is not primarily for defense against other human beings.

[Dial H For Hero]

62. Actually, I've downsized my gun collection a great deal over the last 10 years.

I have a dozen guns up for auction this weekend, as a matter of fact. I'm now down to only 14 firearms.

It's enough.

[LiberatedUSA]

80. Are gun prices up?

Good time to sell?

[Dial H For Hero]

88. And how!

Good time to sell?

Absolutely! I'm quite optimistic as to the prices that will be realized in the auction this weekend. I unloaded some firearms earlier this year and was surprised at how high the bidding went on some of my guns.

[hurl]

64. Already armed too

Thanks to my gun-nut son. I'm comfortable around guns and don't expect to need one for self defense even in my red state, but it's here in case. Absolutely gunpoint intimidation will become more commonplace as the press continues to normalize violent political rhetoric.

[Skittles]

67. I am not a fucking coward

FUCK gun humpers

[Skittles]

70. fuck them

sick of all of them

[TheRealNorth]

81. Sadly, some may realize too late....

When the "6 million was not enough" crowd gets a hold of them.

[Skittles]

90. when the weapon is used against them

or they shoot the wrong person

or a child or a despondent person has access to it

they too realize "too late"

[TheRealNorth]

121. Well said

[BlackSkimmer]

94. Wow, DU sure has changed.

And btw, 11 million died in the Holocaust, not 6 million.

[TheRealNorth]

122. I was referring to a t-shirt that at least one of the Jan 6th insurrectionists was wearing.

And yes, if you count not just the Jewish people, but the other minorities, people with disabilities, political prisoners, etc. That number is probably around 11-12 million.

[JI7]

137. +

[BlackSkimmer]

98. So basically you think just like the punk in Wisconsin.

He thought he needed to be armed too. So did the moron who survived, but had his bicep destroyed.

How did that work out for everyone? Too bad the two victims weren’t armed also, right? Coulda had a good ole shootout!

[BlackSkimmer]

107. What will you do when one is aimed at you? Reach for yours?

Oops, too late.

The open carry dimwit I saw the other day had his big bad weapon in a beautiful holster, where it was securely fastened. I would imagine that if someone put a gun in his face, he’d be dead before he retrieved it.

Or are you Quick Draw McGraw?

[Caliman73]

68. No to all questions.

We have to remember that this was a case of an idiot travelling to a place where there was civil unrest, armed and likely looking for problems.

People are interpreting this as open season, but it is not. The case that will have a much greater effect on that mentality is the Arbery case. What I think this Rittenhouse case may do is bring a whole bunch more attention on how Police handle protests, which is not good either. They may use this as a way to be more aggressive, and likely more in cases of left wing or Civil Rights type protests. What will remain unchanged unfortunately, is how they respond to White boys carrying guns. That is, unless it becomes a pattern, then there will absolutely have to be a deeper look.

I own firearms. They sit in locked containers in my locked home until I take them out for target practice. They will continue to sit there until actual evidence of their need is demonstrated. No such need has been demonstrated. Here. Guns are potentially deadly tools and their carry and use have SIGNIFICANT consequences for life and society. Decisions like whether to arm yourself or not, should not be made in the heat and emotion of a moment.

[Backseat Driver]

72. Owned for hobby and hunting, but

not likely that either of those activities will be on the agenda any time soon. Takes too long now to accomplish normal priorities of daily living.

Still fantasizing about the priority of purchasing a handgun for "protection."

[I_UndergroundPanther]

74. No.

The rwnjs have been itching to hurt and kill liberals,people of color,gblt people non christians,etc

One of them actually asked tfg when can we use the guns.

For me no guns I have bouts with clinical depression. However a different weapon maybe a blowgun and cuare frogs?

I have had anectine used on me in a psych ward.

Anectine is a form of cuare. Being forced and having it jabbed in my in my arm the effects of it was very traumatizing. It was in the name of controlling behavior.

Its a paralysis drug.

Knocking the bastards with cuare would render them unable to move.

Then they can be carried away and dumped somewhere isolated with no phones or vehicles.

In that way they dont die.
Just feel terrorized just like they would have me feel with thier violence.

You also could put psychedelics on the tip of a dart too. When you abandon them in the middle of nowhere with no car and no phones.

[doc03]

77. I have had a CC permit for 11 years and only carried my gun a couple times. But

Ohio may now allow anyone to CC. If they do I will probably carry every day for my protection from
others that shouldn't even own a gun.

[Enoki33]

78. Definitely no.

[PTWB]

82. I carry concealed.

I also own multiple guns, each with a distinct useful purpose. All self respecting liberals ought to be armed.

[BlackSkimmer]

96. I saw an open carry dimwit at the Farmers Market last

Saturday. He was carrying a child too.

Quite a sight.

I was trying to figure out what he was so afraid of there - the collard greens? The apples?

[PTWB]

114. There's no telling. Open carrying is not about self defense.

Open carrying negates many of the self defense advantages of having a firearm on your person. Stupidity.

[denbot]

83. Armed, and I practice at my local range.

Ex-military and effective with a weapon.

[Mr.Bill]

84. When the time comes that I am afraid to leave my house without a gun,

and my safety relies on my willingness to kill people, I will only need one bullet. And it will go right into my head.

[Aristus]

85. No.

I was an M1A1 Abrams tank crewman. These putrid little pudknockers think they’re so tough. Fuck ‘em all for the limpdick losers they are.

I’ve fired real guns.

I never needed to bring that into civilian life with me. That makes me a better person than those Rambo wannabes.

And yes: I’m drunk. Don’t fucking care. Crybaby Rottenhouse should be in prison overalls right now instead of having a victory party. Wisconsin sucks. Kiss my ass.

[Skittles]

95. yes

they think the jackboots will be knocking down their doors - they're SKEEEERED

I don't know what is happening to DU - first there were Rittenhouse defenders, some actually bringing up the background of the people he murdered as if that somehow mitigates his actions------now they're pimping for more guns - WTF

[Sunsky]

86. Yes

My husband is and I have been reluctant but not anymore. It's becoming increasingly unsafe for people who look like me.

[cntrfthrs]

89. I'm a radical leftist..

living in trumpistan/North dakota...danged rights I'm armed and have been armed..

[Straw Man]

97. I'm armed already and have been for a long time.

And no, I'm not "pimping for more guns." You make your own decisions. I've made mine.

[pfitz59]

99. No. I believe I can defend myself with my wits

On the other hand, I am an expert shot with both pistol and rifle. I will avoid confrontation.

[hunter]

146. I have a forty year old knife scar on my arm that reminds me I'm sometimes a half-wit.

That's one reason I always wear shoes I can run in.

One good rule I've learned in life is to never let anyone you'd care to shoot live in your head.

[moondust]

101. RPG

Cuz ya never know when yer gonna have to stop an armed crowd or truck or drone comin' at ya.

[Raine]

102. I'm already armed. I have at least a dozen guns

I've had them for years.

[BlackSkimmer]

108. How many can you shoot at one time?

Are you a collector or do you just feel owning more makes you safer?

[Raine]

110. I've never shot any of them. I inherited them from family

members who collected them. I'm not sure what I'll do with them. I don't want them falling into the wrong hands so I'll keep them.

[Decoy of Fenris]

106. Already armed.

Nothing as modern as an AR or even an M16, but I have a few bolt action rifles and a few antiques going back to the 1700s.

Thinking of picking up a Mossberg or two, unrelated to the trial. I don't honestly see "Intimidation" becoming an issue, because most people are reasonable and there's little to fear.

Shotguns have never been my weapon of choice, but for downrange fun and home defense, they're pretty solid.

[Roisin Ni Fiachra]

113. Armed Trump Nazi MAGATS kick our door in

to "own the libs", because they think we are all defenseless, and will go quietly into the night, they're gonna wish they'd never been born.

I grew up with guns and hunting, and still live in deep red America. Now that we know the police won't protect us from Trump Nazi MAGATS, and the MAGATS can kill us with impunity, and our votes will no longer count after the elections of 2022...we feel we have no choice but to use means to protect ourselves, and our home, from these deluded, violent fascist lunatics.

We no longer feel that the local police will protect us, and our home, from violent Trump Nazi MAGATS. I'm old, but my eyesight is still 20/20. I can see where this is all going, from my first hand perspective, here in crazier than shithouse rat deep red America.

We are dealing with a movement comprised of the same people who worshiped Hitler, except that they worship Trump. If Sinemskya and Manchinskova don't stand up for democracy and the Constitution, by joining the rest of the Democratic party in protecting democratic electoral processes, the acceleration of our descent into autocratic fascist hell, from which there is no return, will begin.

Our laws do not protect us from minority rule. This is a flaw in the structure of our democracy that the fascists have almost perfected in exploiting. The numbers are not good.

Vote like your life depends on it, because it does, more than ever before.

[msfiddlestix]

131. This 10,000 % Spot On

[JI7]

119. Why ? How would that help in any way ?

[GusBob]

120. In the blue community where I live

Just about everyone owns a gun and knows how to use them, women , young adults, just about every adult male. On the Rez, there’s a lot of conflict, but rarely armed.
The leading causes of death other than disease are suicide by overdose, drug related overdoses and car wrecks.

During COVID and after the election, there was some rumors that white supremacy types were out hunting Native Americans in this state.My Native friends were all laughing up their sleeves. ‘Let’s see them try and come up here’ they said.

My one friend has like 20 guns . I asked him if he would sell me one. He laughed and said ‘no way our people hang on to our weapons’

[Voltaire2]

123. I'm considering it.

A fascist republic is now an immanent threat. I don’t think I want to go quietly to whatever destination they have in mind for the dissidents and trouble makers.

[Bucky]

127. I have a gun. I'm not stupid enough to take it to a protest.

But yes, the point of them bringing guns while practicing their right to free assembly is to intimidate us. The best way to handle bullies is to stand up to them.

But it is not time yet (and hopefully won't ever get to be that time) to resort to violence. Their actions are those of a side losing power.

[msfiddlestix]

128. I'm in California and i'm definitely considering it.

Never been to Wisconsin, don't plan to go.

I think location is beside the point these days.

I'm older than dirt... but I figure I can learn.

An old anti-war activist, but never considered myself a pacifist.

[marie999]

132. My husband and I carry concealed and so do most of my children and grandchildren.

We are Jewish and Persian with a few grandchildren married to White Baptists. A lot of hunters in our area so most people own guns. The great-grandchildren are taught gun safety and get shotguns on their 12th birthday.

[peggysue2]

133. My husband and I are both gun owners

But we do not walk around with our guns strapped to our hips and I would never ever go armed to a rally or protest.

[Peacetrain]

134. No... I will not be a part of the problem..

If someone is determined to shoot me, there is nothing I can do to stop them.. firing back just might hurt someone else..

[48656c6c6f20]

138. I haven't felt the need to own a gun

For 40 years now. I have two choices it seems, leave the country or arm myself against people that will start shooting left leaning people without any regard to consequences. I don't know what my decision is yet.

[rockfordfile]

139. No

[LuckyCharms]

140. At this point in my life, no, I wouldn't.

Not with a firearm, anyway.

I have no desire spend the time required to become proficient with a firearm, and I would not own a firearm unless I was proficient in its use.

However, there might be other weapons that I would consider owning.

[WarGamer]

144. I collected and shot guns for decades...

Then got rid of them when my children were young.

Never replaced them.

I'm not afraid of them nor do I miss them.

If I had a need for one I'd buy another one.

Today I choose not to have one.

[Paladin]

145. I've owned guns since I was a kid.

I never seriously believed that armed conflict with fellow citizens would ever happen---but then trump turned this country into a cesspool. Now it seems like it's just a matter of time. If my loved ones are threatened, I will not hesitate to protect them.