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How can it be that in Canada, (Original Post) Uncle Joe Nov 2021 OP
Lobbying of politicians, otherwise known as corruption, is not on an industrial scale. Legalized. Alexander Of Assyria Nov 2021 #1
greed. AllaN01Bear Nov 2021 #2
Old adage was DENVERPOPS Nov 2021 #16
The greedy wealthy bribe corrupt politicians who dupe racist, willfully ignorant voters. Irish_Dem Nov 2021 #3
Love of money... cilla4progress Nov 2021 #4
On top of that... NQAS Nov 2021 #5
Kick dalton99a Nov 2021 #6
How can it be that doctors prescribe drugs via brand name, rather than generic name? FakeNoose Nov 2021 #7
many insurances require generic if it is available yellowdogintexas Nov 2021 #17
Yes I'm aware of this, but I thought it was optional by state law FakeNoose Nov 2021 #18
If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck......... mjvpi Nov 2021 #8
It even costs less manufactured gab13by13 Nov 2021 #9
I'd agree w/ comments about generic drugs, except... NullTuples Nov 2021 #10
Anyone know what prescription medication he's speaking about in the first tweet? George II Nov 2021 #11
Insulin, probably. luvtheGWN Nov 2021 #13
US Pharma is socialism for the 1%. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2021 #14
The reason I asked is that last week he had a similar tweet, showing a vial of insulin... George II Nov 2021 #19
The USA is a plutocracy on the verge of becoming a full fascist state Mysterian Nov 2021 #12
...well after all; it very well could be YOU! EarthFirst Nov 2021 #15
Pharma ads boil down to, "Limited profits mean no mass production or R&D. Marcuse Nov 2021 #20
We are being forced to subsidize the rest of the world HAB911 Nov 2021 #21
K&R ck4829 Nov 2021 #22
 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
1. Lobbying of politicians, otherwise known as corruption, is not on an industrial scale. Legalized.
Sun Nov 21, 2021, 12:10 PM
Nov 2021

Neither is the need for massive coffers of campaign cash to get elected, so no path for drug companies to corrupt the democratic process.

Same goes for all things Americans can not have because of entrenched corruption, on all the levels that matter most.

Cant even have fair political representation.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
16. Old adage was
Sun Nov 21, 2021, 01:54 PM
Nov 2021

money is the root of all evil..........You are right, it's not "money" is the root of all evil, it's GREED is the root to all evil.

Does anyone know, if you get written scripts from your Dr. and take them to Canada, will their pharmacies accept and fill them?
And secondly, can you get thru customs with them on your way back to the U.S.??????

Irish_Dem

(79,741 posts)
3. The greedy wealthy bribe corrupt politicians who dupe racist, willfully ignorant voters.
Sun Nov 21, 2021, 12:30 PM
Nov 2021

Enough blame to go around.

cilla4progress

(26,487 posts)
4. Love of money...
Sun Nov 21, 2021, 12:33 PM
Nov 2021

the root of all evil.

Across cultures and time this has been a known precept.

Except for US right now.

SMDH.

NQAS

(10,749 posts)
5. On top of that...
Sun Nov 21, 2021, 12:36 PM
Nov 2021

Try to get an actual price

Cash at the pharmacy, no insurance. Pay through the nose.

Insurance. Well, that depends on the insurance, deductible, co-pay, tier of drug in insurance company formulary.

Good Rx. Probably really inexpensive.

We are a broken country.

FakeNoose

(40,147 posts)
7. How can it be that doctors prescribe drugs via brand name, rather than generic name?
Sun Nov 21, 2021, 12:41 PM
Nov 2021

How can it be that insurance companies agree to cover the ridiculous exorbitant prices of the brand-name drugs? We have a lot questions, and we should be pointing fingers at the legislators who take bribes/donations from Big Pharma.

yellowdogintexas

(23,595 posts)
17. many insurances require generic if it is available
Sun Nov 21, 2021, 02:31 PM
Nov 2021

This has happened to me more than once. The doc fills out with the brand name but the pharmacist fills with the generic.

FakeNoose

(40,147 posts)
18. Yes I'm aware of this, but I thought it was optional by state law
Sun Nov 21, 2021, 03:23 PM
Nov 2021

I'd hope there would be a federal law for this, but the Big Pharma lobbyists would fight it tooth and nail.

mjvpi

(1,844 posts)
8. If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck.........
Sun Nov 21, 2021, 12:51 PM
Nov 2021

Well Bernie insists that he is a Mallard, a specific kind of duck, but he is a Democrat.

gab13by13

(31,178 posts)
9. It even costs less manufactured
Sun Nov 21, 2021, 12:53 PM
Nov 2021

in India and China. We have been importing drugs from India and China for decades. I have to laugh at the GQP argument for high drug prices, that we can't trust them to be made in foreign countries. Hey, some people bought it.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
10. I'd agree w/ comments about generic drugs, except...
Sun Nov 21, 2021, 12:59 PM
Nov 2021

The standards are already extremely low, stating they don't have to have the same amount of active ingredient.

That alone would make dosing difficult ("oh, it's CVS house brand so I need to take two&quot but what's even worse is there really is no regulation in terms of 3rd party testing of generic drugs. Most are simply made in a factory somewhere without regulations, bottled, shipped, eventually reach store shelves at some level of original potency, and then bought and utilized.

Generic drugs are a fine idea. The problem is we barely have any regulation left in America, and even less that's been granted actual enforcement powers.

luvtheGWN

(1,343 posts)
13. Insulin, probably.
Sun Nov 21, 2021, 01:37 PM
Nov 2021

But that is just one. I've been seeing an ad on CNN -- a woman talking about universal drug coverage and having "government decide on the pricing etc." Oh, and "we don't want any of that socialized medicine here in the US, because patients have to wait in long lines for it" (that last part is parapharased but the meaning is the same).

No, in Canada drug prices are lower because the government negotiates with the drug companies to get the lowest price possible. Doctors and patients are partners in deciding which drugs are needed, and when. Same thing in the UK and every other first world country.

George II

(67,782 posts)
19. The reason I asked is that last week he had a similar tweet, showing a vial of insulin...
Sun Nov 21, 2021, 03:24 PM
Nov 2021

....that he said cost $26* in Canada and more than $300 in the US. In fact, the same vial in the US is really only $29 as someone posted in that thread.

*Disclaimer: it may have been $21, I'm doing this from memory.

Mysterian

(6,170 posts)
12. The USA is a plutocracy on the verge of becoming a full fascist state
Sun Nov 21, 2021, 01:23 PM
Nov 2021

The billionaires have successfully brainwashed half the population that "greed is good" and anything for the common welfare is evil "communism."

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