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Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
Tue Nov 23, 2021, 02:28 AM Nov 2021

Just as the right is now using PeeWee Rittenhouse as a prop, the Left

can use him and his case as more evidence for the need for common sense gun legislation.

Also, never stop referring to him as a murderer. Regardless of what the jury decided,
and regardless of any "self defense" law, he murdered two people, and tried to murder a third.

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Just as the right is now using PeeWee Rittenhouse as a prop, the Left (Original Post) Progressive Jones Nov 2021 OP
I'm still wondering Monohull Nov 2021 #1
We have heard that it's likely he'll now be facing federal charges Rhiannon12866 Nov 2021 #2
Thanks. Monohull Nov 2021 #4
This is where I got this information, from Rep. Nadler: Rhiannon12866 Nov 2021 #9
No. Experts have said that's far fetched. WarGamer Nov 2021 #6
I'm getting this from Rep. Nadler: Rhiannon12866 Nov 2021 #8
I saw that... requesting a review IS NOT the same as expecting charges WarGamer Nov 2021 #11
And I'm kinda' biased re: Politicus... because it's not a legitimate source... :) WarGamer Nov 2021 #13
Thanks! I obviously like Rep. Nadler a lot, from long before his role on the impeachment committee Rhiannon12866 Nov 2021 #19
No. Only the person who bought the gun and he's already been charged. WarGamer Nov 2021 #7
Takes 2 to tango. Monohull Nov 2021 #15
Because there's no such thing as a "Straw Gun" law.. WarGamer Nov 2021 #17
He and his friend Monohull Nov 2021 #18
That's never been charged before. WarGamer Nov 2021 #20
Plenty Monohull Nov 2021 #21
One of my pet peeves. They use conspiracy law against black people like crazy. But with white people Solomon Nov 2021 #24
Stricter gun legislation wouldn't have mattered Haggard Celine Nov 2021 #3
I'm aware. I was talking about the effort to enact the kind of legislation Progressive Jones Nov 2021 #10
PeeWee Rittenhouse... lmao, I'm SOOO stealing that. WarGamer Nov 2021 #5
Steal away! He needs a nickname. nt Progressive Jones Nov 2021 #12
killer kyle or kyle the killer would be correct. he did admit doing it did he not? nt msongs Nov 2021 #14
I like it! nt Progressive Jones Nov 2021 #16
I think the RWers would like that wnylib Nov 2021 #23
It doesn't take a lot to see that racist freak C Moon Nov 2021 #22
I think in the long run he will pay for it. The rest of his life he will be living in doc03 Nov 2021 #25
 

Monohull

(52 posts)
1. I'm still wondering
Tue Nov 23, 2021, 02:40 AM
Nov 2021

why Rittenhouse has not been charged for his role in the illegal straw purchase.

That's a federal offense.

Rhiannon12866

(205,346 posts)
2. We have heard that it's likely he'll now be facing federal charges
Tue Nov 23, 2021, 02:48 AM
Nov 2021

Excellent question and welcome to DU!

WarGamer

(12,444 posts)
11. I saw that... requesting a review IS NOT the same as expecting charges
Tue Nov 23, 2021, 03:03 AM
Nov 2021

There are no Civil Rights charges that apply.

No Federal Crimes.

No second "bite of the apple" because people don't like the State verdict.

Rhiannon12866

(205,346 posts)
19. Thanks! I obviously like Rep. Nadler a lot, from long before his role on the impeachment committee
Tue Nov 23, 2021, 03:20 AM
Nov 2021

Back when Al Franken had his Air America radio show (which I used to watch nights on Sundance TV), Nadler was his Rep. and he used to be a frequent guest.

Thanks for the article. Like everyone else here, I find this acquittal completely unacceptable. The kid crossed state lines with an automatic weapon and shot two people to death!

 

Monohull

(52 posts)
15. Takes 2 to tango.
Tue Nov 23, 2021, 03:12 AM
Nov 2021

I don't see why he can not be charged with conspiring to break federal straw purchase law.

WarGamer

(12,444 posts)
17. Because there's no such thing as a "Straw Gun" law..
Tue Nov 23, 2021, 03:15 AM
Nov 2021

It's called lying on your form 4473 which is filled out by the buyer.

This is basic stuff... don't like the laws then change them.

WarGamer

(12,444 posts)
20. That's never been charged before.
Tue Nov 23, 2021, 03:23 AM
Nov 2021

Without precedent how do you think that'd fly in Court?

Like the President said, get over it, the Jury has spoken.

I personally urge all to push their State Legislatures to change laws to cut down on this kind of thing happening again.

This wouldn't have happened in California.

 

Monohull

(52 posts)
21. Plenty
Tue Nov 23, 2021, 03:26 AM
Nov 2021

of people have been charged, convicted and put in prison for conspiracy.

The law is already there.

He conspired to violate federal law.

Solomon

(12,310 posts)
24. One of my pet peeves. They use conspiracy law against black people like crazy. But with white people
Tue Nov 23, 2021, 08:03 AM
Nov 2021

it's usually just get the one who did it.

Haggard Celine

(16,846 posts)
3. Stricter gun legislation wouldn't have mattered
Tue Nov 23, 2021, 02:49 AM
Nov 2021

in the Rittenhouse case. A friend of Kyle's bought the gun legally, then gave it to Kyle. No gun laws would have kept the friend from giving Kyle the weapon. He didn't care about the law when he gave the gun to him. Besides, the friend is being charged for for doing it, I've read recently. He could get up to 25 years, the article said. You can't prevent law breakers from ignoring laws; all you can do is punish them for doing it.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
10. I'm aware. I was talking about the effort to enact the kind of legislation
Tue Nov 23, 2021, 03:03 AM
Nov 2021

that's been desired for decades.

At some point there has to be changes in the availability of firearms.

wnylib

(21,464 posts)
23. I think the RWers would like that
Tue Nov 23, 2021, 03:55 AM
Nov 2021

nickname. They would think that it makes him a tough guy, a lib killer.

It has a good alliterative sound, but the word "murderer" is more specific and accurate.

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
22. It doesn't take a lot to see that racist freak
Tue Nov 23, 2021, 03:50 AM
Nov 2021

kneeling in the street and shooting an assault rifle at unarmed people to know he is a cold blooded murderer. You know. I know it. The defense knows it. The judge knows it.

Racism is alive and killing. That’s all that is going on here: a modern version of “hanging them from the nearest tree.”

doc03

(35,337 posts)
25. I think in the long run he will pay for it. The rest of his life he will be living in
Tue Nov 23, 2021, 09:12 AM
Nov 2021

fear that a family member of the victims or someone else will catch him somewhere with no witnesses.
I think he will be getting verbally assaulted in public, getting his ass kicked and maybe worse the rest
of his sorry life. He can't hide behind MAGAts, Proud Boys and Tucker forever.

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