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Everyone thought the Cyber Ninjas were in it for the money.
The Republican-controlled Arizona Senate picked the Florida-based company to run the sham recount of votes in Maricopa County earlier this year, even though they had no prior experience of running election audits.
The companys efforts were so amateurish that even the Republican-led Maricopa Board of Supervisors labeled them a bunch of grifters and con artists.
But it turns out that even though a variety of conspiracy-loving groups raised almost $6 million dollars to fund the audit, that money hasnt made its way to the Cyber Ninjas.
This week the companys CEO Doug Logan said that rather than making him rich, the sham Maricopa County recount left him $2 million in debt.
But it turns out that even though a variety of conspiracy-loving groups raised almost $6 million dollars to fund the audit, that money hasnt made its way to the Cyber Ninjas.
This week the companys CEO Doug Logan said that rather than making him rich, the sham Maricopa County recount left him $2 million in debt.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3vdjk/cyber-ninja-ceo-doug-logan-in-debt
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Midnight Writer
(21,753 posts)I believe nothing these clowns say.
usaf-vet
(6,181 posts)Response to usaf-vet (Reply #22)
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Pinback
(12,154 posts)Lying is their first choice, every time.
SouthernDem4ever
(6,617 posts)They are a bunch of liars not to be trusted.
Hotler
(11,421 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(145,176 posts)diverdownjt
(702 posts)Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)Surely Doug can find it with his cyber sleuthing skills.
Hey, Doug, a hint
look in TFGs pockets.
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MagickMuffin
(15,937 posts)Still gonna grift for that money. He's got 14 mouths to feed.
I personally think its a tragedy that Doug Logan sacrificed months with his pregnant wife and 11 kids (now 12) to put his business and reputation on the line, Moseder wrote. All of that work, risk, and sacrifice to have come out the other side being called a traitor, and to be 2.1 million dollars in debt, with a business whose reputation will forever be branded right-wing conspiracy company.
Logans personal financial situation has also been in the news lately. Last week the Sarasota Herald-Tribune reported that on Jan 25, Logan cleared a 30-year mortgage on his $455,000 house, less than four years after taking out the loan. The report also highlighted that this was the same date that his companys $100,000 emergency pandemic relief loan was forgiven by the government.
CrispyQ
(36,461 posts)Traildogbob
(8,731 posts)Is how they bailout. Go for 2 dozen kids.
underpants
(182,791 posts)Logans wife gave birth to the couples 12th child recently.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)and I'm supposed to believe he's broke?
Biophilic
(3,651 posts)CanonRay
(14,101 posts)How very poignant.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)Andy823
(11,495 posts)I would bet a "whole lot" of the money ended up in his pocket!
Classic Romney/Lampert/KKR-style asset stripping - though on a smaller scale.
LiberalFighter
(50,912 posts)dalton99a
(81,476 posts)Cyber Ninjas CEO paid off $423K mortgage on same day pandemic loan was forgiven: report
John Wright
November 17, 2021
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)Last edited Tue Nov 23, 2021, 07:32 PM - Edit history (1)
"This week the companys CEO Doug Logan said that rather than making him rich, the sham Maricopa County recount left him $2 million in debt."
Then you read down and it's actually:
"Moseder, on his Telegram channel, recounted a conversation he had recently with Logan, claiming that the Cyber Ninjas CEO has been left in deep financial trouble as a result of the Arizona recount."
Not the same thing. Logan did not publicly say it, nor do we really even know if he said it at all to this Moseder guy.
Nor does having a net loss of $2M on a particular business venture necessarily mean ... he's broke. Banks don't generally just loan out $2M, with zero collateral. Where did this supposed $2M come from?
Nor do we know, as claimed in the article "But it turns out that even though a variety of conspiracy-loving groups raised almost $6 million dollars to fund the audit, that money hasnt made its way to the Cyber Ninjas."
Maybe the audit actually COST $8M?
I mean I wouldn't be at all surprised if he got ripped off by the people who raised that $6M, everyone in the Trump money-raising world is a freaking grifter (see: Bannon, Steve), but the idea Logan never got that money that was raised is pure speculation.
SO MANY freaking articles like this lately, it's so annoying. No offense OP
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)The lawsuits from Dominion, Maricopa County, et Al?
Traildogbob
(8,731 posts)A trumper specialty.
lonely bird
(1,685 posts)Fuck him either way. He saw an opportunity based upon the idiocy of Trump and Republicans in Arizona and figured he could cash in. If he found massive fraud he would be a hero. If he didnt
well, he would forever be connected with the RW traitor, anti-American whackjobs.
He rolled the dice and lost. Like too many gamblers he shouldnt have gambled in the first place.
BlueJac
(7,838 posts)LMAO
IrishAfricanAmerican
(3,816 posts)dchill
(38,484 posts)Jilly_in_VA
(9,966 posts)to make smaller ones! I use what there is.
dchill
(38,484 posts)Everybody knows violins are supposed to be SMALL.
KS Toronado
(17,224 posts)into one of his accounts so he could make sure audits were funded properly.
And true to form he never pays his bills.
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)The Hard Right agreed to pay Logan millions to prove Trump really won Arizona. They would then use this precedent to eventually get Trump reinstated.
When the results came back the way they did, they didnt pay.
Todays lesson: get your money up front:
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)There's literally no evidence presented that Logan got stiffed, just pure speculation by the author.
Not even the conspiracy theorist actually says that.
Maybe he was stiffed (probably likely) and I kinda hope he was, but ...
secondwind
(16,903 posts)sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Pluvious
(4,310 posts)Looks like you inadvertently did a double paste
Bengus81
(6,931 posts)Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)A careful reading will show that this is a click-bait article based on pure speculation and the 'word' of a shady, whackadoodle conspiracy theorist.
The IRS won't do squat without a HELL of a lot more evidence of wrongdoing than what's presented in this article.
DFW
(54,370 posts)Just watch:
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Blue Owl
(50,356 posts)That was when it all started slipping away for Fat Donny .
UpInArms
(51,282 posts)Good grief!
Moseder also revealed that Logans wife gave birth to the couples 12th child recently.
Idiocracy was way ahead of its time.
JohnnyRingo
(18,628 posts)Either by creditors or defamation suits.