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Jilly_in_VA

(9,966 posts)
Tue Nov 23, 2021, 11:24 AM Nov 2021

Somehow the Guy Who Tried to Steal Arizona for Trump Is Now Broke

Everyone thought the Cyber Ninjas were in it for the money.

The Republican-controlled Arizona Senate picked the Florida-based company to run the sham recount of votes in Maricopa County earlier this year, even though they had no prior experience of running election audits.

The company’s efforts were so amateurish that even the Republican-led Maricopa Board of Supervisors labeled them a bunch of “grifters and con artists.”
But it turns out that even though a variety of conspiracy-loving groups raised almost $6 million dollars to fund the audit, that money hasn’t made its way to the Cyber Ninjas.

This week the company’s CEO Doug Logan said that rather than making him rich, the sham Maricopa County recount left him $2 million in debt.

But it turns out that even though a variety of conspiracy-loving groups raised almost $6 million dollars to fund the audit, that money hasn’t made its way to the Cyber Ninjas.

This week the company’s CEO Doug Logan said that rather than making him rich, the sham Maricopa County recount left him $2 million in debt.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3vdjk/cyber-ninja-ceo-doug-logan-in-debt
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Somehow the Guy Who Tried to Steal Arizona for Trump Is Now Broke (Original Post) Jilly_in_VA Nov 2021 OP
Is he "broke", or is this the next phase of his scam? Midnight Writer Nov 2021 #1
Moved the cash to a number account to hide it from everyone. Not broke just pocket change to carry. usaf-vet Nov 2021 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2021 #31
Agreed. Pinback Nov 2021 #25
I'm with you. He hid the money SouthernDem4ever Nov 2021 #26
Start pulling on those bootstraps. nt Hotler Nov 2021 #2
Grifters have to grift LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2021 #3
They'll be chasing thier tales for a hundred years.... diverdownjt Nov 2021 #29
Where's the money? Cracklin Charlie Nov 2021 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2021 #32
Logan's wife gave birth to the couple's 12th child recently. MagickMuffin Nov 2021 #5
I can't even think about the grift around the relief money or my blood pressure starts to rise. -nt CrispyQ Nov 2021 #8
Child tax credit Traildogbob Nov 2021 #16
Well at least he can count to 12 underpants Nov 2021 #6
This is the guy who paid off a half milion mortgage 24 years early... TreasonousBastard Nov 2021 #7
All while feeding and clothing 11 kids. Interesting, hmmm. nt Biophilic Nov 2021 #21
Grifters grifting grifters CanonRay Nov 2021 #9
I wonder how much ended up the Pig's wallet... Thomas Hurt Nov 2021 #10
Good question Andy823 Nov 2021 #12
+1 peppertree Nov 2021 #34
If anything he has diverted it to an off shore bank LiberalFighter Nov 2021 #11
Bullshit. dalton99a Nov 2021 #13
More stories that put inaccuracies at the top to bait clicks ... so annoying ... Hugh_Lebowski Nov 2021 #14
Could it be a way to duck BlueIdaho Nov 2021 #15
Duck taxes Traildogbob Nov 2021 #18
OK. Whether he or his business is broke or not is irrelevant lonely bird Nov 2021 #17
You can't trust Republicans with money! BlueJac Nov 2021 #19
... IrishAfricanAmerican Nov 2021 #20
Your violins are too big. dchill Nov 2021 #23
Tell the person in charge of smilies Jilly_in_VA Nov 2021 #36
Somebody needs to get right on that! dchill Nov 2021 #37
Der orange Fuhrer convinced everyone to consolidate the 6 million KS Toronado Nov 2021 #24
It makes perfect sense jmowreader Nov 2021 #27
Or the audit cost $8M instead of $6M Hugh_Lebowski Nov 2021 #41
TRUMP SHOULD KNOW WHERE THIS MONEY WENT........... secondwind Nov 2021 #28
ETTD sarcasmo Nov 2021 #30
You might want to edit your post... Pluvious Nov 2021 #33
Bottom line is someone is LYING big time. IRS needs to do a full blown investigation Bengus81 Nov 2021 #35
Other than the article's author ... not sure anyone is lying ... Hugh_Lebowski Nov 2021 #40
But at least he can sing and dance calypso! DFW Nov 2021 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Nov 2021 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author BobTheSubgenius Nov 2021 #42
Rump losing Arizona was the highlight of election night Blue Owl Nov 2021 #43
12 children? UpInArms Nov 2021 #44
Staving off potential lawsuits I'll bet.. JohnnyRingo Nov 2021 #45

Response to usaf-vet (Reply #22)

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
4. Where's the money?
Tue Nov 23, 2021, 11:31 AM
Nov 2021

Surely Doug can find it with his cyber sleuthing skills.

Hey, Doug, a hint…look in TFG’s pockets.

Response to Cracklin Charlie (Reply #4)

MagickMuffin

(15,937 posts)
5. Logan's wife gave birth to the couple's 12th child recently.
Tue Nov 23, 2021, 11:31 AM
Nov 2021

Still gonna grift for that money. He's got 14 mouths to feed.






“I personally think it’s a tragedy that Doug Logan sacrificed months with his pregnant wife and 11 kids (now 12) to put his business and reputation on the line,” Moseder wrote. “All of that work, risk, and sacrifice to have come out the other side being called a traitor, and to be 2.1 million dollars in debt, with a business whose reputation will forever be branded ‘right-wing conspiracy company.’”


Logan’s personal financial situation has also been in the news lately. Last week the Sarasota Herald-Tribune reported that on Jan 25, Logan cleared a 30-year mortgage on his $455,000 house, less than four years after taking out the loan. The report also highlighted that this was the same date that his company’s $100,000 emergency pandemic relief loan was forgiven by the government.



TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
7. This is the guy who paid off a half milion mortgage 24 years early...
Tue Nov 23, 2021, 11:36 AM
Nov 2021

and I'm supposed to believe he's broke?

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
14. More stories that put inaccuracies at the top to bait clicks ... so annoying ...
Tue Nov 23, 2021, 12:16 PM
Nov 2021

Last edited Tue Nov 23, 2021, 07:32 PM - Edit history (1)

"This week the company’s CEO Doug Logan said that rather than making him rich, the sham Maricopa County recount left him $2 million in debt."

Then you read down and it's actually:
"Moseder, on his Telegram channel, recounted a conversation he had recently with Logan, claiming that the Cyber Ninjas CEO has been left in deep financial trouble as a result of the Arizona recount."

Not the same thing. Logan did not publicly say it, nor do we really even know if he said it at all to this Moseder guy.

Nor does having a net loss of $2M on a particular business venture necessarily mean ... he's broke. Banks don't generally just loan out $2M, with zero collateral. Where did this supposed $2M come from?

Nor do we know, as claimed in the article "But it turns out that even though a variety of conspiracy-loving groups raised almost $6 million dollars to fund the audit, that money hasn’t made its way to the Cyber Ninjas."

Maybe the audit actually COST $8M?

I mean I wouldn't be at all surprised if he got ripped off by the people who raised that $6M, everyone in the Trump money-raising world is a freaking grifter (see: Bannon, Steve), but the idea Logan never got that money that was raised is pure speculation.

SO MANY freaking articles like this lately, it's so annoying. No offense OP

lonely bird

(1,685 posts)
17. OK. Whether he or his business is broke or not is irrelevant
Tue Nov 23, 2021, 12:28 PM
Nov 2021

Fuck him either way. He saw an opportunity based upon the idiocy of Trump and Republicans in Arizona and figured he could cash in. If he found massive fraud he would be a hero. If he didn’t…well, he would forever be connected with the RW traitor, anti-American whackjobs.

He rolled the dice and lost. Like too many gamblers he shouldn’t have gambled in the first place.

KS Toronado

(17,224 posts)
24. Der orange Fuhrer convinced everyone to consolidate the 6 million
Tue Nov 23, 2021, 12:48 PM
Nov 2021

into one of his accounts so he could make sure audits were funded properly.
And true to form he never pays his bills.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
27. It makes perfect sense
Tue Nov 23, 2021, 01:11 PM
Nov 2021

The Hard Right agreed to pay Logan millions to prove Trump really won Arizona. They would then use this precedent to eventually get Trump reinstated.

When the results came back the way they did, they didn’t pay.

Today’s lesson: get your money up front:

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
41. Or the audit cost $8M instead of $6M
Tue Nov 23, 2021, 07:38 PM
Nov 2021

There's literally no evidence presented that Logan got stiffed, just pure speculation by the author.

Not even the conspiracy theorist actually says that.

Maybe he was stiffed (probably likely) and I kinda hope he was, but ...

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
40. Other than the article's author ... not sure anyone is lying ...
Tue Nov 23, 2021, 07:36 PM
Nov 2021

A careful reading will show that this is a click-bait article based on pure speculation and the 'word' of a shady, whackadoodle conspiracy theorist.

The IRS won't do squat without a HELL of a lot more evidence of wrongdoing than what's presented in this article.

Response to Jilly_in_VA (Original post)

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Blue Owl

(50,356 posts)
43. Rump losing Arizona was the highlight of election night
Wed Nov 24, 2021, 12:26 AM
Nov 2021

That was when it all started slipping away for Fat Donny…….

UpInArms

(51,282 posts)
44. 12 children?
Wed Nov 24, 2021, 10:09 AM
Nov 2021

Good grief!

“While many people got VERY RICH off of the AZ audit, Doug Logan is over 2 million dollars in debt, with no other means of income,” Moseder wrote. “I believe he was anticipating more audits to make up for his losses and kept being reassured, ‘don’t worry about the money, America has your back.’”

Moseder also revealed that Logan’s wife gave birth to the couple’s 12th child recently.


Idiocracy was way ahead of its time.
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