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WinstonSmith4740

(3,431 posts)
Mon Nov 29, 2021, 12:08 AM Nov 2021

Best family Thaksgiving story ever.

I could make you guys waste your time by reading a lot of backstory here. Let's cut to the chase.

My sisters and I are now the "older generatiton". The aunts, uncles, and grandparents. I'm the family "lefty". First get together in a couple of years for obvious reasons. The last time was the Kavanaugh hearings. My sisters all have 2 brain cells that rub together, so they're still in the "can form rational thoughts" Republican camp, but still...

So I walk out to the living room in my normal morning pre-coffee fog, and my straight as an arrow, Republican even through Nixon, voted for Trump, brother-in-law has (wait for it) MSNBC on. I tell him I'm surprised, but proud of him, and he says, "They're smart and tell the truth." And then later in the day, we went to a CBD dispensary and got him some stuff for his chronic pain.

The scales are falling, friends. We really need to have confidence and hang tight.

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Best family Thaksgiving story ever. (Original Post) WinstonSmith4740 Nov 2021 OP
Find common ground. Cracklin Charlie Nov 2021 #1
This is very good info. mahina Nov 2021 #4
Future discussions w/the right NJCher Nov 2021 #6
Nice story. Claustrum Nov 2021 #2
Gotta give it to people open to truth. Hoyt Nov 2021 #3
"They're smart and tell the truth." elleng Nov 2021 #5
No. The scales are not falling. The dumbasses abound. Sorry. NT acantharchus Nov 2021 #7
And a cheery good morning to you, too Hekate Nov 2021 #11
Well, sometimes it's hard to keep fighting the good fight. calimary Nov 2021 #14
I believe there are a whole lot of people that fox counts as "watchers" who aren't. BComplex Nov 2021 #8
They're smart and they tell the truth... SWBTATTReg Nov 2021 #9
My family story OrangeJoe Nov 2021 #10
Thank you for sharing this. It's very hopeful. Hekate Nov 2021 #12
Maybe, just maybe more will start to realize they were duped and worship a "chosen one who wants to Evolve Dammit Nov 2021 #13
My good family story is my son-in-law who just Tree Lady Nov 2021 #15
" Let's cut to the chase" left-of-center2012 Nov 2021 #16
For those that have Netflix 7wo7rees Nov 2021 #17
I can't live ;ong enough to change the minds of my brothers. 634-5789 Nov 2021 #18

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
1. Find common ground.
Mon Nov 29, 2021, 12:19 AM
Nov 2021

That’s how you turn them around. No amount of yelling, pounding the table, or name calling will ever work. I like that you told him you were proud of him.

If you’re looking for common ground, I have found that asking folks how they want their tax dollars spent, can instantly establish common ground. Most people want a strong military, education for children and young adults, and protections for the elderly and disabled. There are a lot of values that we all share.

NJCher

(43,020 posts)
6. Future discussions w/the right
Mon Nov 29, 2021, 01:59 AM
Nov 2021

asking folks how they want their tax dollars spent

And that, right there, is the definition of politics. It is the division of resources and power.

Good tip. I I’ll be more conscious of this in the future.

Claustrum

(5,058 posts)
2. Nice story.
Mon Nov 29, 2021, 12:23 AM
Nov 2021

Since he voted for Trump (I assume that's in 16 and not 20), what made him have the switch? I would have guessed these people would have CNN on rather than MSNBC.

calimary

(89,816 posts)
14. Well, sometimes it's hard to keep fighting the good fight.
Mon Nov 29, 2021, 05:44 PM
Nov 2021

I can understand why some folks find it so damn discouraging. I can get there pretty easily myself. It’s just utterly bewildering.

I just have no way to understand why some people just simply MUST cling to the idiocy. Even when the proof and the reality are practically slamming them in the face. They probably watch Pox Noise as a safe haven where their fucked-up world view gets powerful reinforcement.

BComplex

(9,863 posts)
8. I believe there are a whole lot of people that fox counts as "watchers" who aren't.
Mon Nov 29, 2021, 07:57 AM
Nov 2021

Some businesses play fox, the military plays fox, the prisons play fox...that doesn't mean it's necessarily the listeners' channel of choice.

OrangeJoe

(558 posts)
10. My family story
Mon Nov 29, 2021, 03:58 PM
Nov 2021

The sole Republican in our family, a nephew who sells used cars and is convinced he is going to be a millionaire someday so that's why he opposed higher taxes, has now posted on his Facebook page anti January 6th rioters comments and pro vaccine remarks. I think the fact that his wife has MS opened his eyes to the fact that his idols were lying and didn't give a damn about who they hurt. So there is hope for some of the deluded.

Evolve Dammit

(21,742 posts)
13. Maybe, just maybe more will start to realize they were duped and worship a "chosen one who wants to
Mon Nov 29, 2021, 04:45 PM
Nov 2021

be a total dictator and would see them dead in a nanosecond if they dared question him. See covid response as exhibit "A". All of his spawn and ilk just want their money and undying support.

Tree Lady

(13,241 posts)
15. My good family story is my son-in-law who just
Mon Nov 29, 2021, 05:57 PM
Nov 2021

Retired from Air Force as Lt Colonel went from democrats when he began to republicans by the time he worked at Pentagon for 3 years, to back to being moderate dem the last few years.

What pulled him back? Trump, they hated his no values for the kids to look up to.

And for past year my teen grandson has him watching John Oliver.

I am thrilled.

7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
17. For those that have Netflix
Mon Nov 29, 2021, 08:15 PM
Nov 2021

Try "The Mind, Explained" season 2, episode 5 "Brainwashing"
It just dropped last week, and it goes into why the Qnuts are like they are, and what we can expect to work in extracting them.
Teaser: find common ground.

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