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Demovictory9

(37,113 posts)
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 02:16 AM Dec 2021

Man trying to steal catalytic converter killed by falling car,


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Man trying to steal catalytic converter killed by falling car, deputies say

James Maye, of the sheriff’s office, told WSOC that the homeowner found the man when he pulled into his driveway.

“He’s got multiple vehicles in his driveway and sees basically the lower half of a person sticking out from the front bumper of his Toyota Prius,” Maye said. “It appears the vehicle fell down on top of (the man) while he was trying to cut the catalytic converter off.”

Authorities said the car appeared to have fallen from an automotive jack and onto the man, whose name was not released, as he was cutting the exhaust pipe. In a news release Friday, officials said they hoped the incident served to “highlight the dangers associated with the theft of motor vehicle parts and will serve to discourage anyone actively involved in this type of criminal activity.”

“A catalytic converter and the small amount of scrap value it holds is not worth the risk of losing your life,” deputies said.

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Man trying to steal catalytic converter killed by falling car, (Original Post) Demovictory9 Dec 2021 OP
Stupid and sad at the same time, OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2021 #1
How many people are crushed tipping vending machines Eugene Dec 2021 #2
These are the lowest levels of economic desperation, I think. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2021 #3
Huge issue right now MissB Dec 2021 #16
Drugs would be my guess. jalan48 Dec 2021 #35
Car Karma. nt Lucid Dreamer Dec 2021 #4
yes indeed Demovictory9 Dec 2021 #5
Around here you can get up to $350 for a convertor. TreasonousBastard Dec 2021 #6
What a horrible way to die. JohnnyRingo Dec 2021 #7
Darwin Award? sakabatou Dec 2021 #8
Poor jack methods was the catalyst for converting his life. TheBlackAdder Dec 2021 #43
Too bad. Nah. I really don't care. It's a big problem around here... Captain Zero Dec 2021 #9
That's how I feel. Haggard Celine Dec 2021 #44
I Hope He Suffered Horribly For Hours DanieRains Dec 2021 #10
What a terrible thing to wish for another human being. masmdu Dec 2021 #15
Save your pity for people that deserve it. Boomerproud Dec 2021 #24
Yes, Crimes like this are very costly and cause a lot of economic hardship to working people JI7 Dec 2021 #57
Please Send Me The $500 I Had To Pay For My New Converter DanieRains Dec 2021 #30
I had to pay nearly $1000 to replace mine and yet I still don't wish horrible suffering on the perso masmdu Dec 2021 #46
Yeah, I just hope thieves get life in prison Polybius Dec 2021 #52
Not really . Maybe he is already suffering economically. It's just emotional response JI7 Dec 2021 #58
Glad I know more about you now!! Nt USALiberal Dec 2021 #48
If someone is a meth head they need help, not death. MrsCoffee Dec 2021 #50
500 dollars is not a small amount and causes many problems for people JI7 Dec 2021 #59
I had to pay almost that much when a guy slashed my tires Chautauquas Dec 2021 #65
Wow, I'd hate to think what you think a murderer deserves? BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #27
Post removed Post removed Dec 2021 #32
Prison??? You said death??? USALiberal Dec 2021 #49
I think he got locked in this post. So he will not be commenting any longer. USALiberal Dec 2021 #51
No sympathy from me Raine Dec 2021 #11
I believe he's learned his lesson, your honor. Buns_of_Fire Dec 2021 #12
I just heard about the thefts on my local news ladt night. BigmanPigman Dec 2021 #13
it's huge in California. Demovictory9 Dec 2021 #14
Same thing happened in Ferryboat Dec 2021 #17
lol Renew Deal Dec 2021 #19
His family will probably sue for more than the part was worth. Renew Deal Dec 2021 #18
If they win a case like that, there is no justice. LiberatedUSA Dec 2021 #20
Sue whom, though? DFW Dec 2021 #29
...more than the part is worth... lol taxi Dec 2021 #34
Hmmmm. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2021 #36
I didn't say they would win. Renew Deal Dec 2021 #39
Nah The few cases where damage suits by a trespasser/thief have won are booby trap cases alphafemale Dec 2021 #33
I was considering that for when we went away for the hollidays ripcord Dec 2021 #45
Made me laugh. Thanks. Captain Zero Dec 2021 #67
great thread y'all WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #21
There are some revealing posts here. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #28
+1 MrsCoffee Dec 2021 #55
+1 (sigh) demmiblue Dec 2021 #62
Should have gotten a job at McDonald's. dalton99a Dec 2021 #22
With the skill set possessed to turn a wrench and steal auto parts alphafemale Dec 2021 #23
Jobs require drug tests and attendance Polybius Dec 2021 #53
not true mauserk98 Dec 2021 #69
And every one I worked for didn't Polybius Dec 2021 #70
given the difficulty of finding mechanics right now, fewer are probably requiring this Amishman Dec 2021 #73
Karma came calling... 634-5789 Dec 2021 #25
The Prius must be a favorite of these thieves. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #26
Yeah, there must be something about them. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2021 #38
According to the Dealership Deep State Witch Dec 2021 #64
We've had an epidemic of this in my area Sympthsical Dec 2021 #31
epidemic in southern Calif. Hitting my community. we had cops come and talk to us about the issue Demovictory9 Dec 2021 #41
Natural selection at work. roamer65 Dec 2021 #37
He was converted to Soylent Green. Good riddance. kairos12 Dec 2021 #40
I am out of fucks to give for thieves nt ripcord Dec 2021 #42
Here's the problem with California... WarGamer Dec 2021 #47
CA has a ton of loony laws like that Polybius Dec 2021 #54
Thank God for California. MrsCoffee Dec 2021 #56
Another law of "Good Intentions" WarGamer Dec 2021 #61
Yes exactly. If I forget my cloth bag I end up with those new plastic bags Raine Dec 2021 #66
I reuse my bags from the supermarket all the time. Xolodno Dec 2021 #71
do you think the gross weight of bags that leave the store is greater than before? WarGamer Dec 2021 #74
He jacked around and found out MagickMuffin Dec 2021 #60
Good! Deep State Witch Dec 2021 #63
You are lovely to help her out Demovictory9 Dec 2021 #68
The odd thing is... Xolodno Dec 2021 #72
Some of the responses here could be found at Free Republic BannonsLiver Dec 2021 #75

OAITW r.2.0

(31,577 posts)
1. Stupid and sad at the same time,
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 02:20 AM
Dec 2021

Why would he need to do this? A few grams of platinum?

Society can fix this. Probably not in rural areas, though.

Eugene

(66,834 posts)
2. How many people are crushed tipping vending machines
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 02:33 AM
Dec 2021

to steal from them?

Criminals are not widely known for thinking things through.

OAITW r.2.0

(31,577 posts)
3. These are the lowest levels of economic desperation, I think.
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 02:37 AM
Dec 2021

2 grams of platinum vs.$35.00 in US Coins...What's more tradeable?

MissB

(16,341 posts)
16. Huge issue right now
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 05:59 AM
Dec 2021

Along with auto theft, stealing catalytic converters is a huge problem.

Glad that I don’t have one to steal.

JohnnyRingo

(20,537 posts)
7. What a horrible way to die.
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 03:45 AM
Dec 2021

I wouldn't wish that on the lowest scum of society. Not even scrappers either.

For their 17th birthday all my grand sons got jack stands for their birthdays with a stern warning to use them every time they crawl under a car.

Captain Zero

(8,756 posts)
9. Too bad. Nah. I really don't care. It's a big problem around here...
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 04:09 AM
Dec 2021

No they are stealing them from working people who need their cars running and ready to go to work in the morning. I've had neighbors devastated and feel violated after they walk out and find it.

Lost work time. Lost wages. Repair bills. No Transportation.
Fuck him. He's dead. Good.

Usually they are going for SUV's especially jeeps and trucks too because they sit up higher, and easier to get under and steal them.

But like in this case the Prius's too. I think the Prius converter might be worth more.
One neighbor of mine has one of the smaller and lower Chevy's, but it was newer, so I think they go for more recent models too if they can. He was so sad he got victimized like that.

Happens a lot in apartment and condo lots from 4 a.m. to daylight. Deepest sleep hours.
Call the police, they don't have a clue, don't really seem to be concerned about running it down.
Back to the donut shop in 20.

Haggard Celine

(17,695 posts)
44. That's how I feel.
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 07:27 PM
Dec 2021

He was stealing from someone who likely couldn't afford to have the part replaced. He broke it, he bought it.

 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
10. I Hope He Suffered Horribly For Hours
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 04:19 AM
Dec 2021

Pile of scum.

Yeah they took my vans Converter.

Scum.

Boomerproud

(9,165 posts)
24. Save your pity for people that deserve it.
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 09:54 AM
Dec 2021

My car was stolen at a gas station and the little jerk, probably 15 , threw me down and Injured my arm. Cops found my car a month later after I had to buy a new one.Rental car cost me over 800.00 for 2 weeks. Still have nightmares.

JI7

(93,262 posts)
57. Yes, Crimes like this are very costly and cause a lot of economic hardship to working people
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 09:40 AM
Dec 2021

ANd the problems just pile on in so many ways .

I'm sure that person doesn't think we should have laws to make people suffer and it was more of an emotional response which people should understand.

I see too many times people get more upset over people having an angry response to something horrible that happened to them than the actual thing that happened.

 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
30. Please Send Me The $500 I Had To Pay For My New Converter
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 02:05 PM
Dec 2021

So some meth head can have another day's worth of drugs.....

Sorry.

Scum = dead.

masmdu

(2,641 posts)
46. I had to pay nearly $1000 to replace mine and yet I still don't wish horrible suffering on the perso
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 09:41 PM
Dec 2021

person who stole it. We are very different people.

Polybius

(21,538 posts)
52. Yeah, I just hope thieves get life in prison
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 08:00 AM
Dec 2021

I don't wish them any suffering at all.

JI7

(93,262 posts)
58. Not really . Maybe he is already suffering economically. It's just emotional response
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 09:42 AM
Dec 2021

I wish horrible things for people that stole and damaged my things but that doesn't mean I would actually support laws that would cause suffering to people that do those crimes. But if something horrible did happen to them I might find it hard to have any sympathy.

MrsCoffee

(5,825 posts)
50. If someone is a meth head they need help, not death.
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 07:57 AM
Dec 2021

Sorry about your $500. Is that all a life is worth to you?

Chautauquas

(4,488 posts)
65. I had to pay almost that much when a guy slashed my tires
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 04:43 PM
Dec 2021

I was really pissed off but I didn't wish pain, suffering, and death on the guy.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
27. Wow, I'd hate to think what you think a murderer deserves?
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 10:05 AM
Dec 2021

Are you a fan of torture? The rack? Water boarding?

Response to BlackSkimmer (Reply #27)

Raine

(31,102 posts)
11. No sympathy from me
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 04:31 AM
Dec 2021

low lifes have been stealing those like crazy in my area. Something bad happens to them it serves them right, haha!

Buns_of_Fire

(19,018 posts)
12. I believe he's learned his lesson, your honor.
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 04:41 AM
Dec 2021

I can guarantee there is a zero chance of recidivism with this accused.

BigmanPigman

(54,618 posts)
13. I just heard about the thefts on my local news ladt night.
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 04:53 AM
Dec 2021

I didn't know it was happening all over the country.

Ferryboat

(1,220 posts)
17. Same thing happened in
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 06:21 AM
Dec 2021

Everett WA area. Only his accomplice took the victim's shoes when he ran off.

 

LiberatedUSA

(1,666 posts)
20. If they win a case like that, there is no justice.
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 08:48 AM
Dec 2021

The dude trespassed and was in the act of stealing and may have did something that released the car. How can that be the homeowner’s fault?

Paying the families of dead scum for the scum’s stupidity. Nope.

DFW

(59,762 posts)
29. Sue whom, though?
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 10:07 AM
Dec 2021

The car's owner didn't hire him to steal the catalytic converter, so the only one left to sue is the maker of the jack that failed to hold the car up. Trying to convince a jury that one of the manufacturer's stated purposes for their jacks is to hold the car high enough and long enough for a thief to steal parts is probably one hell of a legal stretch.

taxi

(2,678 posts)
34. ...more than the part is worth... lol
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 04:53 PM
Dec 2021

more than the part is worth!
Too funny

eta - he could have got $50 for that part

Hassin Bin Sober

(27,393 posts)
36. Hmmmm.
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 04:59 PM
Dec 2021

I wonder if the fact the person was using the jack for a theft would be relevant or allowed by a judge in a civil case? Possibly not.

Renew Deal

(84,709 posts)
39. I didn't say they would win.
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 06:23 PM
Dec 2021

But I’m sure that there will be some argument like an uneven driveway causing the collapse.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
33. Nah The few cases where damage suits by a trespasser/thief have won are booby trap cases
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 04:24 PM
Dec 2021

You can't set up a booby trap that will harm someone.

That Home Alone family would have been rightfully sued out the ballz, though.

 

ripcord

(5,553 posts)
45. I was considering that for when we went away for the hollidays
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 07:27 PM
Dec 2021

Leave one kid behind to protect the house with booby traps, the house is safe and it will be quieter on the drive, it is hard for one of them to fight alone.

dalton99a

(92,322 posts)
22. Should have gotten a job at McDonald's.
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 09:00 AM
Dec 2021

This shit is causing serious financial hardship to people








 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
23. With the skill set possessed to turn a wrench and steal auto parts
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 09:16 AM
Dec 2021

He could have probably gotten a good job.

He didn't want a job.

Jobs require drug tests and attendance.

Polybius

(21,538 posts)
53. Jobs require drug tests and attendance
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 08:03 AM
Dec 2021

Good attendance yes, but most mechanic jobs don't drug test, unless you are a mechanic for the MTA or something.

Amishman

(5,917 posts)
73. given the difficulty of finding mechanics right now, fewer are probably requiring this
Mon Dec 13, 2021, 06:38 AM
Dec 2021

Its not just food service and truck drivers that are in short supply, its all over

there is an interesting power struggle right now at my employer (financial sector) to drop the drug testing requirement for certain IT positions. Managers want to drop it because we can't find applicants, HR says heck no.

Hassin Bin Sober

(27,393 posts)
38. Yeah, there must be something about them.
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 05:01 PM
Dec 2021

I know several victims that were Prius owners.

My buddy confronted someone in front of his house here in Chicago. The guy pulled a gun on my buddy.

Deep State Witch

(12,596 posts)
64. According to the Dealership
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 04:37 PM
Dec 2021

Where my friend took hers when it was making loud noises, the Gen 2 Prius has a very specific and valuable catalytic converter. It's got heavy metals in it, and it does something to convert the kinetic energy to electricity.

Sympthsical

(10,870 posts)
31. We've had an epidemic of this in my area
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 02:13 PM
Dec 2021

Feels like every other day there's some Next Door video of people getting under cars.

I know the police apprehended a little ring of the thieves after a chase.

https://www.abc10.com/article/news/crime/suspect-catalytic-converter-theft-ring-fairfield/103-6057c436-ba6c-4075-951f-04c49bcb9c21

My neighborhood is relatively crime free, because we're a bunch of paranoid lunatics with cameras everywhere. But this crime is hitting everywhere. Yesterday morning, there was a post and camera footage of someone working under a car at 4:30a a couple blocks from me.

We had generally just left our cars in the driveway most days, but now they're in the garage at night. One never knows.

Demovictory9

(37,113 posts)
41. epidemic in southern Calif. Hitting my community. we had cops come and talk to us about the issue
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 07:17 PM
Dec 2021

bottom line, we need better security cameras.

WarGamer

(18,257 posts)
47. Here's the problem with California...
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 12:00 AM
Dec 2021

They actually have a law banning aftermarket catalytic converters.

So if YOURS is stolen, you MUST buy the OEM piece from Ford, Toyota, Honda, etc...

In other states you can buy a replacement from Walker or another company, passes smog tests... for $400

The OEM might be $1200 each... some cars use TWO.

Polybius

(21,538 posts)
54. CA has a ton of loony laws like that
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 08:04 AM
Dec 2021

It's almost like it's another country sometimes.

WarGamer

(18,257 posts)
61. Another law of "Good Intentions"
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 04:32 PM
Dec 2021

was the requirement for "re-usable" plastic grocery bags they charge the customer 10 cents for...

lmao...

I have a friend who manages a store who confirms that near ZERO people actually re-use those bags and the number of bags they order and use NOW is just as many as when they were ordering the thin "one-use" bags.

So... they took a bag that contained let's say 5 grams of PE and replaced it with a bag that contains 15g of PE... and people STILL use the ten cent bags to throw away junk around the house or pick up dog poo... whatever.

In effect, they've TRIPLED the amount of plastic (from groc store bags) that ends up in the dump.

And the ten cents doesn't go to any State recycling programs... it just goes to the bag mfg.

We need more Engineers and Accountants in Gov't.

Raine

(31,102 posts)
66. Yes exactly. If I forget my cloth bag I end up with those new plastic bags
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 04:53 PM
Dec 2021

with more and more of them piling up. I don't think I've reused any of them, they're so darn stiff and thick.

Xolodno

(7,316 posts)
71. I reuse my bags from the supermarket all the time.
Mon Dec 13, 2021, 01:16 AM
Dec 2021

Took me awhile to get used to, but, now after a shopping trip, gather them and throw them into the trunk. Hey 10 cents is 10 cents. Add to that, see people bring their own bags all the time.

It's when I travel out of state when things get weird.

WarGamer

(18,257 posts)
74. do you think the gross weight of bags that leave the store is greater than before?
Mon Dec 13, 2021, 08:35 PM
Dec 2021

Considering the new bags contain 3-4x as much plastic as the old ones...

Meaning to break even, with no increase in plastic in the landfill, the vast majority of heavy bags would have to be re-used MANY times.

It's pretty simple... ask the bag mfg how many tons of bulk plastic they've been purchasing to produce them.

I think the vast majority of these bags go in a drawer and are used as the kitchen trash bag 90% of the time.

The Good thing I'll say about the law...

The wind has trouble carrying the new bags as far... probably fewer in the ocean.

To truly solve the problem... eliminate plastic bags altogether and people will buy and use the cloth bags.

Deep State Witch

(12,596 posts)
63. Good!
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 04:35 PM
Dec 2021

One less a**hole criminal in the world. Sorry, but my friend who is a senior citizen and on a fixed income had the catalytic converter stolen from her Prius this past week. We gave her $250 to pay her insurance deductible on it. I have no sympathy left for people who victimize others, especially seniors!

Xolodno

(7,316 posts)
72. The odd thing is...
Mon Dec 13, 2021, 01:20 AM
Dec 2021

...could have shoplifted some platinum spark plugs which would be a lot safer.


Add to that, do this too many times, you will get notice. It's a federal crime, not state.

BannonsLiver

(20,295 posts)
75. Some of the responses here could be found at Free Republic
Mon Dec 13, 2021, 09:15 PM
Dec 2021

Which I’ll say again for the thousandth time, the only real difference is brand preference. They like Pepsi. Most here like Coke. Same basic American fear, anger and nastiness.

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