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NYC or Moscow? (Original Post) cilla4progress Dec 2021 OP
Damn, that's awful! Haggard Celine Dec 2021 #1
I'll take my chances on the NYC subway instead gldstwmn Dec 2021 #2
A New Yawkah says thank you Drum Dec 2021 #5
New York or nowhere. gldstwmn Dec 2021 #8
Before Covid Woodswalker Dec 2021 #3
it is rather amusing how foreigners perceive the US cadoman Dec 2021 #18
Ah yes 48656c6c6f20 Dec 2021 #4
Evils??!! cilla4progress Dec 2021 #7
Sure that's not debatable 48656c6c6f20 Dec 2021 #10
No, the problem is getting support to put the money towards certain things more than lack of money JI7 Dec 2021 #13
Chambers Street station is in lower Manhattan Sanity Claws Dec 2021 #6
Someone in the Twitter thread iemanja Dec 2021 #9
Chambers St is a very active and big station... electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #12
Then someone on Twitter lied. former9thward Dec 2021 #19
As A NYC'r many of our stations don't look so in disrepair... electric_blue68 Dec 2021 #11
Most of Russia's train stations are still what they had from Soviet Union days JI7 Dec 2021 #14
I've been all over the world. WarGamer Dec 2021 #16
I agree , but it's because Republicans block efforts to improve it. Not because we can't afford it JI7 Dec 2021 #17
It's not just Moscow... WarGamer Dec 2021 #15

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
2. I'll take my chances on the NYC subway instead
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 10:28 PM
Dec 2021

of having poison placed on my undergarments or getting mowed down on the sidewalk by Putin's goons.

 

Woodswalker

(549 posts)
3. Before Covid
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 10:29 PM
Dec 2021

My cousin's visited from Germany. I found I had to make excuses for alot of what they saw here. The roads alone shocked them in more ways than one

cadoman

(792 posts)
18. it is rather amusing how foreigners perceive the US
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 01:14 AM
Dec 2021

I don't think their media ever properly convey how big and diverse it is, in all facets. You can go from opulence to destitution in a few blocks. Travel hundreds of miles of nothingness. Drive by hours of strip malls or forests. See swamps, deserts, mountains and everything in between.

The roads are pretty much universally unpleasant or boring to drive though. German roads are a pleasure.

My German friend was most impressed by: our meats, our sodas, and our weather.

 

48656c6c6f20

(7,638 posts)
4. Ah yes
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 10:53 PM
Dec 2021

I've seen this little gem circulating on the evils of socialism and Democrats. It's a great republiQan talking point.

cilla4progress

(24,736 posts)
7. Evils??!!
Sat Dec 11, 2021, 11:58 PM
Dec 2021

If central government had more control of private property, e.g., tax the rich, perhaps we would have better infrastructure! Y'know?

JI7

(89,252 posts)
13. No, the problem is getting support to put the money towards certain things more than lack of money
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 12:31 AM
Dec 2021

itself. The same with health care proposals and many other things.

electric_blue68

(14,915 posts)
12. Chambers St is a very active and big station...
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 12:31 AM
Dec 2021

but I haven't been down there since pre pandemic so I don't know if some section has been sealed off or something.

former9thward

(32,027 posts)
19. Then someone on Twitter lied.
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 02:50 AM
Dec 2021

Imagine that! Chambers St station lies directly under the NYC Municipal building and is active.

electric_blue68

(14,915 posts)
11. As A NYC'r many of our stations don't look so in disrepair...
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 12:26 AM
Dec 2021

While certainly not as spiff and flashy as this Moscow station appears s to be.

There have been times when money reduced from the Feds, to The States probably mostly Republican watch. So our city has less to work with.

It's probably true that MTA is not as good as an organization as it should be.
While I lived in Brooklyn ('00s) they built themselves a rather semi fancy building. Their old one was a mess, but this new one seemed at least from the outside - at least two types of stone facade, with certain design details that probably cost more...

JI7

(89,252 posts)
14. Most of Russia's train stations are still what they had from Soviet Union days
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 12:39 AM
Dec 2021

Many places are also abandoned . Also Moscow has more people than NYC while the population of Russia is much lower than the US . We have same issues with places being abandoned and people moving to certain cities but we have more places that do well spread out across the country .

One thing I hate about the internet and meme crap is simplistic things like this which are misleading but people who see it think they have so much knowledge.

It's like the right wingers who keep attacking California . YEah, California has many places we need to fix but the red areas are dying places with Drug addiction and even wealthy republicans don't live or invest there. They will never ask themselves why that is .

We have a problem in this country for sure but the ones responsible for it are those who attack those problems . They like to point out the problems but attack Democrats that try to do anything to fix it .

WarGamer

(12,452 posts)
16. I've been all over the world.
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 12:50 AM
Dec 2021

Just to be brief, West to East from Japan to Hong Kong, Taiwan, Singapore, Bangkok, Dubai, Istanbul, Moscow, Vienna, Bratislava, Prague and Budapest... just to make the list manageable... and that's a fraction of my list. (oh, China too... been all over China)

Our infrastructure is embarrassing. At a MINIMUM, JFK and LAX should be equal to Frankfurt Airport (FRA)

Maybe a few less F22's?

JI7

(89,252 posts)
17. I agree , but it's because Republicans block efforts to improve it. Not because we can't afford it
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 01:08 AM
Dec 2021

But i'm talking about Russia specifically here and it minimizes the serious problems in the country which are much more than the US .

WarGamer

(12,452 posts)
15. It's not just Moscow...
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 12:44 AM
Dec 2021

MANY Russian cities have elaborate "Undergrounds"...

And as a bonus you frequently have classically trained musicians in the Subway playing Violin or Cello or something.

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