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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWould the F___k Biden flags not
fall under our laws against public lewdness?
Especially when our children just learning to read are seeing this and turn to their parent and ask " what does f__ck mean mom "
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/lewd
Beastly Boy
(9,375 posts)The Fuck Biden flags are protected free speech under the First Amendment.
tavernier
(12,392 posts)to identify the people in the community who are married to their first cousins.
obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,357 posts)cadoman
(792 posts)It can be but if Fuck Trump flags were in the same area it'd be problematic to enforce. For instance, in my neighborhood there were--and still are--a lot of "Fuck Trump" flags, so it'd be kinda hard. The best place to pursue this strategy would be a neighborhood that had no "Fuck Trump" flags but now has "Fuck Biden" flags. I would guess the suburbs would most often offer such opportunities.
Consider how we're able to do a Satanic altar at a statehouse, for example, it's only because the idiots allowed a nativity scene to be setup. So we're allowed to express our faith there in the same way.
Honestly though, I'd let them have their rage. It just shows they're upset and powerless. If we went after the flags it'd just get them more energized.
Walleye
(31,028 posts)paleotn
(17,931 posts)They heard it from Schwartz at school. Well...if the truth be told, they actually heard if from their father at least 10 times a day. I can so relate.
I do get your point, though. The right, particularly the fundigelicals tend to get their drawers in a wad about such language and call us "potty mouth". Unless, of course, we're using those words on someone they hate.
samplegirl
(11,480 posts)On the way to our grocery store and where our children ride pass on the bus each day.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)It never ceases to amaze me how freedom of speech gets so little real support.
There is nothing in the First Amendment about having to explain anything to children.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cohen_v._California
Cohen v. California, 403 U.S. 15 (1971), was a landmark decision of the US Supreme Court holding that the First Amendment prevented the conviction of Paul Robert Cohen for the crime of disturbing the peace by wearing a jacket displaying "Fuck the Draft" in the public corridors of a California courthouse.
The Court ultimately found that displaying a mere four-letter word was not sufficient justification to allow states to restrict free speech and that free speech can be restricted only under severe circumstances beyond offensiveness. The ruling set a precedent used in future cases concerning the power of states to regulate free speech in order to maintain public civility.
How does the Constitution distinguish between "Fuck the draft" and "Fuck Joe Biden" in any way that does not depend on the political orientation or point of view of the person reading it?
What do you want to do to these people to compel their obedience? Lock them up? Fine them? Seize their property? Be specific.
Lastly, you mention "our laws against public lewdness" but you don't mention in what state this is happening or quote any such law. If you would like to identify your state, I'd be happy to look up whatever relevant law you might have and post it.
mahatmakanejeeves
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brooklynite
(94,598 posts)That's a flagrant First Amendment violation. The only restrictions that exist are with respect to proximity to a polling place.
nb: Under your theory, any Biden/Harris bumper sticker or sign would also be illegal.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,489 posts)You are allowed to post political signs in a public right of way starting no earlier than 45 days before an election. The signs have to come down on a timely basis too.
I can dig up the municipal code, but I think that's a common practice.
Your own yard? That's your business. I think that's what you're talking about.
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PatSeg
(47,501 posts)started reading very young, so I am particularly outraged when people post signs or flags with obscenities on them. Once again, right-wingers show they have no consideration for anyone except themselves, but they are quick to be offended by other people's words and actions.
It seems like it was only yesterday that the republican party was the party of family values and righteous indignation.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,107 posts)here is LA (lower alabama)
ripcord
(5,409 posts)We were cheering the Fuck Trump flags but now a few people are crying over Fuck Biden flags, the free speech doors swings both ways, we really need to remember that and stop sniveling.
Chin music
(23,002 posts)Like ever. Jus say'in.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)That was stare decisis a long, long time ago. So, no.
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MissMillie
(38,560 posts)while vile and disgusting...
show us exactly who we're dealing with.
I think I once heard Roy Wood Jr. say that if he needed to buy gas late at night, a confederate flag at a particular gas station was a sign to him to look for a different gas station.
The racist in the hood is easier to identify than the one who doesn't wear one.