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reggieandlee

(778 posts)
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 10:20 AM Dec 2021

BTRTN: The Insurrection Next Time

Born To Run The Numbers points out that both Republicans and Democrats are messaging that our elections are rigged. Republicans continue to the promote the "Big Lie," and Democrats protest that the wide range of Red State voter suppression laws designed to rig elections by disenfranchising minorities. The likely result: neither party will trust the outcome of elections. What happens then?

http://www.borntorunthenumbers.com/2021/12/btrtn-insurrection-next-time.html

Excerpts: "Sadly, it is easy to predict a scenario in which Election Day 2024 is the day when all hell breaks loose in America... It’s not hard to sketch out a scenario in which misinformation and malignant manipulation of our elections cause vast uncertainty and doubt about the real winner of the 2024 Presidential election. This uncertainty could, in turn, trigger an epic power struggle to determine the Presidency that becomes completely detached from the election itself. Regardless of which candidate is ultimately declared to be the winner, the opposing party will completely reject the legitimacy of the President of the United States.
"It might be smart to recognize this possibility and think hard about what we should be doing now to minimize it, if not avoid it...
"But here’s the weird thing. In their own way, Democrats, Progressives, and Liberals are also now messaging to their own constituencies that the elections of 2022 and 2024 may well be 'stolen.' The Democratic version of the “fixed election” message is correctly focused on the plethora of voter suppression laws that are being passed in Republican Legislatures all across the country. The difference, of course, is that the Democrats are right..."
"But when both parties assert that our elections are fixed, that cannot be good for democracy...

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BTRTN: The Insurrection Next Time (Original Post) reggieandlee Dec 2021 OP
Only 1 side is FIXING and CHEATING. onecaliberal Dec 2021 #1
That's the exact point the article is making... reggieandlee Dec 2021 #2
When votes are suppressed and districts are gerrymandered in favor of one party onecaliberal Dec 2021 #3

onecaliberal

(32,864 posts)
1. Only 1 side is FIXING and CHEATING.
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 11:41 AM
Dec 2021

We’ve already had 2 of their presidents installed that did not actually win the election.

reggieandlee

(778 posts)
2. That's the exact point the article is making...
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 11:53 AM
Dec 2021

Yes, Republicans are actually fixing and cheating, but they all believe that the elections are rigged.
Now Democrats are warning that because of Republican voter suppression laws, elections in Red States cannot be trusted.
The bottom line: if nobody believes we are conducting free and fair elections, our democracy dies.

onecaliberal

(32,864 posts)
3. When votes are suppressed and districts are gerrymandered in favor of one party
Sun Dec 12, 2021, 12:30 PM
Dec 2021

Consistently so it doesn’t reflect the increase in non white people; there is no democracy. There is no free and fair election when one party doesn’t bother with a platform other than win at all cost and then rape and pillage everything you can get your hands on for yourself. They stand for nothing. They are evil and cruel and criminal. We haven’t had fair elections in a long time, but it’s not because of fake ass election fraud alleged and investigated with NO FRAUD found by republicans. It’s because REPUBLICANS cheat. They only care about money and power for themselves. They killed 700,000 people and their supporters are just fine with that. We’d better start paying attention.

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