Anyone suspecting there is some other split in the GOP that we aren't aware of?

[NNN0LHI]

I am not sure what it is but there seems to be something going on there bringing out some extreme hate between certain divisions of the GOP.

Something that has been brewing for a long while too. Some kind of payback for something maybe? This didn't just come on. Any ideas what it is?

Don

[FarLeftFist]

1. The Tea Party are the new "Liberals"....

[senseandsensibility]

2. Soemone was just on one of the cable shows saying that this is a split between main street

and wall street repugs, and that that tension has always been there.

[starroute]

7. Exactly -- it goes at least back to the 1940's

Southerners and Westerners have always had a distrust of the East, which encompasses both its financial and cultural elites and its immigrants and minorities.

Most of the Republican presidential candidates in the 1940s and 50s were supported by the Eastern establishment -- but McCarthyism came out of the anti-Eastern, anti-liberal faction. Nixon's southern strategy tilted the balance fairly decisively, and since then GOP presidential politics has been dominated by the South and the West. (At least if you include the Bushes, who at least pretended to be Texans.)

But Romney is everything that most Republicans have been taught for generations to fear and hate.

[dimbear]

3. Not at all. Class hatred, religious hatred, loyalty oaths, science denial. Yup.

Got it covered.

[blm]

4. Corporate elite have just been using cultural and religious bias for decades and it appears

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the working class conservatives are starting to realize that the only ones benefitting from the relationship have been the corporate elite. They've felt the middle class collapse and seen the working class become the working poor.

How long can they keep their heads in the sand? Most will, but, not all.

[freshstart]

5. I think this has something to do with it

This is from an article in Mother Jones on Howard Phillips from 2008. Phillips is involved with the Conservative Caucus. I researched this branch (conservative) of the GOP back to the 70s and they've gone back and forth from trying to start a 3rd party, to trying to take over both parties, to trying to take over the GOP. It seems like they are back to trying the 3rd party. Phillips has been closely tied to Ron Paul since the 70s.

"But Phillips has his sights set on more than defeating Obama; he'd like to blow up the Republican Party as well. For more than a decade, Phillips has been hard at work building the infrastructure of the Constitution Party, which he believes could pick up the most socially right-leaning fragments of the GOP in the event of an intraparty split. If Barack Obama wins the presidency, Phillips believes, this could be that moment."
http://motherjones.com/politics/2008/11/howard-phillips-world?page=1

[FSogol]

6. Beyond their split from reality?

[sufrommich]

8. I thought this was an interesting article from a

conservative magazine:

"the GOP should be wary of becoming the political face of corporate America."


http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/small-beautiful_571631.html


I wonder if having a venture capitalist as their nominee has maybe convinced some of the saner republicans (I know, they are few) that perhaps the party has swung too far to the right?

[hayrow1]

9. Will the Ron Paul solid 15% of Repuke primary voters/caucaus attendees support Romney or Gingrich?

My guess is no. They will not fall in line.

[NNN0LHI]

10. The ones who live around where I live fall in line after the GOP convention

The Paul yard signs get yanked out and the GOP nominees signs go right in after the convention.

Don

[pampango]

11. Just the usual: 1%/big business, religious absolutists and libertarians with teabaggers distributed

among all three. For now it is Romney representing the 1% and big business; Santorum the religious absolutists and Paul the libertarians.

[LadyHawkAZ]

12. No, I think the whole batch of them are playing us

This is theater, designed to distract and divide. Economy? Jobs? Wall Street? Wars? ----Oooo, quick! look over there! Republicans fighting! Quick, get some video!

Paul is the only one that's more or less an outsider and in spite of then Cult of Ron Paul fringe, I don't think anyone has ever taken him seriously as a candidate for president. The rest- hate each other? Nah. They're all on the same side.

[Cognitive_Resonance]

13. The Republican establishment is spooked. Doing their best to shut-up anyone who strays off the "free

enterprise" reservation. They're very afraid. Personally I think the Republican Party has about run its course. Dumbing down their ideology and pandering to religious fanatics paid short-term dividends, but their credibility among reasonable people is finished.