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I don't always agree with AOC... but she's right on this. (Original Post) WarGamer Dec 2021 OP
💯 They should be doing the peoples business not lining their own pockets. onecaliberal Dec 2021 #1
Insider trading is actually planned grand larceny as you steal from others while gaming the system. TheBlackAdder Dec 2021 #15
She's right on this one n/t leftstreet Dec 2021 #2
Yep! Rebl2 Dec 2021 #10
Hey, what's good for Mussolini & company is good for the USA, right? Pobeka Dec 2021 #3
Where I Work There Are Different Rules WaterSong1951 Dec 2021 #4
Extremely Common ProfessorGAC Dec 2021 #9
I consult with a financial adviser for my retirement savings iemanja Dec 2021 #19
K & R...nt Wounded Bear Dec 2021 #5
She's definitely right about this. Arkansas Granny Dec 2021 #6
100% correct. AOC is not afraid to speak truth to power. We need more like her. walkingman Dec 2021 #7
AOC is correct and points out a fact that should be uncomfortable for many: PufPuf23 Dec 2021 #8
Some of them got fabulously wealthy on insider knowledge of COVID IronLionZion Dec 2021 #11
I pretty much always agree with AOC mountain grammy Dec 2021 #12
Old retail saying, "You only make money when you're working the register." (ie. skimming customers) TheBlackAdder Dec 2021 #13
What has AOC ever done to be disagreeable? Kire Dec 2021 #14
I was a municipal purchasing agent cate94 Dec 2021 #16
I see where she's coming from, but can we legally ban them? Polybius Dec 2021 #17
But . . . but . . . but . . FuzzyRabbit Dec 2021 #18
K&R. Not just stock ownership, but all conflicts of interests... in all branches of government. JudyM Dec 2021 #20

TheBlackAdder

(28,193 posts)
15. Insider trading is actually planned grand larceny as you steal from others while gaming the system.
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 12:22 AM
Dec 2021

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What's even more insidious is that those in the Iron Triangle plot this theft from the corporations and their lobbyists that the corporations hire, the elected officials and at times the bureaucrats who review these proposed laws.

All know what is coming down the pike and position themselves accordingly. Assholes like Crammer will offer advice on stocks well after the money boys and politicians and their families are positioned. The plebs are then fleeced.


Wash, rinse & repeat

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WaterSong1951

(74 posts)
4. Where I Work There Are Different Rules
Mon Dec 13, 2021, 10:12 PM
Dec 2021

I work for a private company that has access to information that someone could manipulate- Every quarter I have to swear I don’t use any information (although I am not privileged to have access to it) to use and buy stocks - I am a middle class person who doesn’t even know how to buy stocks individually- WTF is going on?

ProfessorGAC

(65,021 posts)
9. Extremely Common
Mon Dec 13, 2021, 11:00 PM
Dec 2021

That's actually the law.
When I retired, I had about 22,000 shares of company stock at around $82 per share.
There were windows where one could legally sell shares from a 401a account, to redistribute into other 401k funds.
But, given my knowledge of, and access to trade secrets, several times I'd get an email from corporate legal telling me I couldn't take advantage of that option until the next quarter. By then, the business actions based upon that confidential info would be public knowledge.
This even included the shares I held individually, and not part of my 401a, which was only about 5% of total holdings.
In my case, it would have been more like borrowing against the retirement fund to buy stocks before they jumped up 15%, selling, paying back the loan, and pocketing the difference.
That would have been illegal, and I knew that. But, I got reminded of it at least 8 times.
The weird part of these congress members, is that they could do this without actually violating inside trading laws.
Too damned convenient, if you ask me.
Illegal for me to perhaps make $30k in a stock move, but not for them.
In the long run, making another 60-100 grand over 30 years is not a big deal. But, still, you & I are prohibited, but it's ok for elected federal officials. Most inappropriate.

iemanja

(53,032 posts)
19. I consult with a financial adviser for my retirement savings
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 01:05 AM
Dec 2021

He counsels me on which stocks to buy. I don't pay per trade so there is no incentive for him to do anything but suggest stocks that will grow over time.

PufPuf23

(8,775 posts)
8. AOC is correct and points out a fact that should be uncomfortable for many:
Mon Dec 13, 2021, 10:41 PM
Dec 2021

Politicians often not comply with financial and investment rules while in office.

Far too much money and resources are spent by the USA on the military (a major goal for each pol is to get a part of that bucket of funds to his district and political support). Better use could be made investing in people not military.

TheBlackAdder

(28,193 posts)
13. Old retail saying, "You only make money when you're working the register." (ie. skimming customers)
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 12:19 AM
Dec 2021

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In government, you only make money working on committees and have access to MNPI (material non-public info).

You enter a pauper and in a few short years, you're a millionaire when your salary does not justify it.

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cate94

(2,810 posts)
16. I was a municipal purchasing agent
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 12:24 AM
Dec 2021

Just going out to lunch with a vendor was a big deal. I couldn’t accept holiday gifts unless they were meant for the whole office. Talking bags of pistachios here, nothing valuable. It makes me sick that our congress can be bought without repercussions.

FuzzyRabbit

(1,967 posts)
18. But . . . but . . . but . .
Tue Dec 14, 2021, 12:45 AM
Dec 2021

how can a guy make jillions of dollars if he can't use insider information?

Have a little sympathy for the poor congressmen, why don't you.

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