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all of the COVID cases now (Original Post) gopiscrap Dec 2021 OP
I know some unvaxxed who don't vote leftstreet Dec 2021 #1
Unfortunately, the "stupid" among us includes some of our own - Ms. Toad Dec 2021 #2
The CDC still needs to answer for that leftstreet Dec 2021 #3
And let the unvaxxed go around unmasked with impunity... Salviati Dec 2021 #4
Not all of the cases. totodeinhere Dec 2021 #5
Too Simplistic DallasNE Dec 2021 #6
This! BlueMTexpat Dec 2021 #7
U.S. - A very sharp 47% rise in Monday new cases over last Monday, driving 7dma up 21% progree Dec 2021 #8
While I share your fury Dorian Gray Dec 2021 #9

Ms. Toad

(34,092 posts)
2. Unfortunately, the "stupid" among us includes some of our own -
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 01:21 AM
Dec 2021

who refuse to do anything more than vaccinate.

Masking and social distancing are requried, since breakthrough cases are just as contagious in vaccinated individuals than in unvaccinated individuals. Most of my documented exposures since August were from people (some masked with dick noses or chin diapers, some not) who have been vaccinated but who were lax about masking and social distancing.

leftstreet

(36,113 posts)
3. The CDC still needs to answer for that
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 01:24 AM
Dec 2021

When they lifted the mask mandate last spring they let everyone assume if you were vaxxed you were safe.

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
4. And let the unvaxxed go around unmasked with impunity...
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 03:10 AM
Dec 2021

It would have been better if they had said:

a) if you're vaxxed, you can feel safer unmasking in private get togethers with other vaxxed people. (The anti-maskers were doing this already, so this wouldn't alter their behavior at all...)

b) we still recommend masking in public until your state/county has reached fully vaccinated rates of +80% (currently, I don't think anywhere would qualify, not even on a county level, but I could be wrong...)

What they said may have been ok individual health advice, but it was downright terrible public health advice.

totodeinhere

(13,059 posts)
5. Not all of the cases.
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 03:18 AM
Dec 2021

Especially with this new variant fully vaccinated and even boosted people are also catching.it.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
6. Too Simplistic
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 03:22 AM
Dec 2021

Yes, you can say that Republicans making this political and thus adopting the losing side (anti-vaxx) means around 150,000 unnecessary American deaths have occured but this is a global problem with lack of global vaccinations so we would be dealing with this, though on a smaller scale, even if Republicans would have been team players and not the assholes they turned out to be. But, no, we would not have fully beaten this. Indeed, this could be with us for several more years and that means more boosters and more mask wearing and more social distancing.

progree

(10,918 posts)
8. U.S. - A very sharp 47% rise in Monday new cases over last Monday, driving 7dma up 21%
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 06:04 AM
Dec 2021

from a week ago (7dma is 7 day moving average) and highest since September 19.
And there are probably some more Monday cases to be reported as I've found comparing late at night vs mid-day next day

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html
no paywall, no quota, the "Last 90 days" button is very helpful. Map not to be missed

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The world: daily new cases (7 day moving avg) has surpassed its summer peak for the first time
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/world/covid-cases.html

Dorian Gray

(13,501 posts)
9. While I share your fury
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 07:43 AM
Dec 2021

At this point, the pandemic is not a political thing. We are all in this together and we should start caring about keeping everyone safe.

This variant is so contagious it would have spread even if there wasn't a political divide with vaccine intake and masking. It's spreading in countries in Europe who "did everything right." Park Slope, BK, which has an incredible vaccine and masking compliance, is one of the top districts in NYC with positive cases.

It doesn't help at this point to blame the GOP. We need to work together, pressure the local, state and national government to make tests and antivirals more accessible, and all do our very best to stay healthy and keep those most vulnerable around us healthy.

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