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WarGamer

(12,462 posts)
Thu Dec 23, 2021, 02:18 PM Dec 2021

Maybe I watch too many movies... why don't the rich ever go on the run?

The sole exception I can think of is Roman Polanski.

Why didn't Maxwell hop on a G750 around the time Epstein was arrested with Swiss bank account info and a thumb drive with a few hundred bitcoin on it?

A direct flight from Teterboro to Moscow.

No extradition with the USA and Moscow is one of the best cities in the world to live in... provided you're RICH, that is.




And Rush Limbaugh... knowing that tens of millions hated him, why didn't he disappear?

The cool thing to do would have been for him to say GoodBye to all friends and relatives except for a few of his closest... and disappear to some shadowy destination to live out his last weeks?

When he passed, no reporting in public... pre-record tons of sound bites that could be fed out to the public any time the handlers wanted the world to believe he was still alive. For example... he can pre-record a dozen different bites talking about the 2023 Super Bowl... record it with a dozen different matchups. Release the bites for years, lol... political endorsements, etc...

People would think he's alive for years!

I know if I were rich... I'd be more creative than these clowns.

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Maybe I watch too many movies... why don't the rich ever go on the run? (Original Post) WarGamer Dec 2021 OP
I don't think Maxwell had access to that much money. Haggard Celine Dec 2021 #1
She's married to a multi-millionaire. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #2
If she had access to funds, I don't understand it either. Haggard Celine Dec 2021 #6
That's really it right there fescuerescue Dec 2021 #7
That makes sense. Haggard Celine Dec 2021 #9
Nah... easy ways around it. WarGamer Dec 2021 #11
Well why didn't she do that? Haggard Celine Dec 2021 #12
They think they're TOO BIG and wealthy to be prosecuted. WarGamer Dec 2021 #13
I guess when you get away with heinous crimes for so long, Haggard Celine Dec 2021 #14
sure looks that way. WarGamer Dec 2021 #15
She also had UK and French citizenship... WarGamer Dec 2021 #16
Only if she planned ahead. fescuerescue Dec 2021 #23
She was also an heiress to a huge fortune. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #10
Jizzlane hadn't worked for Sur Zobra Dec 2021 #19
Jizzlane Haggard Celine Dec 2021 #21
I don't understand it either, but maybe they trust... Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2021 #3
I think her father, Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine worked for Israeli intelligence Arazi Dec 2021 #4
Time for Moscow Moscow. pecosbob Dec 2021 #5
Hubris? They believe they can get away with most anything. Kaleva Dec 2021 #8
The first word that came to my mind as well Maeve Dec 2021 #22
They're mostly Teflon in US court. I assume after Epstein's sweet heart deal in Florida Johonny Dec 2021 #17
Didn't John McAfee run away to Belize or someplace? Poiuyt Dec 2021 #18
One of the Max Factor heirs went on the run Raine Dec 2021 #20
Robert Vesco EX500rider Dec 2021 #24

Haggard Celine

(16,847 posts)
1. I don't think Maxwell had access to that much money.
Thu Dec 23, 2021, 02:59 PM
Dec 2021

If she did, I think she would have run. But the impression I get is that, rather than being Epstein's best friend and partner, she was actually his personal servant. If that was the case, he wouldn't have trusted her with a great deal of money for fear that she would leave him.

I think if I were her lawyer, I would try to paint Maxwell as another of Epstein's victims. He'll say that she was coerced into procuring girls for him, and it might be close to the truth. Maybe he was threatening her and telling her that she was dead if she ever left him. Of course, that's really no excuse for what she did. She could have gone to the authorities and been put under witness protection. But a story like that would explain some things about their relationship.

Haggard Celine

(16,847 posts)
6. If she had access to funds, I don't understand it either.
Thu Dec 23, 2021, 04:23 PM
Dec 2021

Did she think she was hidden? Because they knew where she was long before they went and got her. It doesn't add up. I'd have been gone as soon as they got Epstein. Was she being told by someone in government that she was safe? Did she have blackmail material that she thought would protect her from arrest? I guess that wouldn't have mattered because Epstein had that material and they got him. Her trial is going to be interesting to say the least.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
7. That's really it right there
Thu Dec 23, 2021, 04:31 PM
Dec 2021

Generally the wealthy have their funds sunk into assets like real estate, stocks etc. That's a great advantage normally.

But when you are running away, it's worthless. You can't sell stocks and bonds and real estate while in hiding. And to the extent that you can, you cannot access the money.

What is she going to do? Walk into a bank and withdraw $10 million dollars in cash? Or wire it? She would be nabbed before she finished the paperwork.

Unless they have a few million in $100 bills ready to go, because of their notoriety, it's actually much harder for them to run and hide.

Haggard Celine

(16,847 posts)
9. That makes sense.
Thu Dec 23, 2021, 06:35 PM
Dec 2021

I didn't think about it like that. It would be hard to lay hands on the kind of cash she would need to escape and stay away. They would probably freeze her assets, anyway, even if she went somewhere like Russia and tried to access her accounts. She was stuck. If she could have run, she would have.

WarGamer

(12,462 posts)
11. Nah... easy ways around it.
Thu Dec 23, 2021, 09:40 PM
Dec 2021

Can't (easily) freeze Swiss Bank Accounts... especially when she wasn't charged with anything.

Hell, if there were no charges, she could empty a Wells Fargo account.

And Cryptocurrency... no one would be able to connect the wallet ID # with her.

Arrive in Moscow, transfer funds to Russia Bank. Have lunch with local politicians, done deal. Safe and sound.

US Gov't asks for her return and Russia says GFY.

Haggard Celine

(16,847 posts)
12. Well why didn't she do that?
Thu Dec 23, 2021, 09:49 PM
Dec 2021

Do you have any idea why she wouldn't have done that if it was possible? Epstein did time down in Florida awhile before his death. Why didn't he leave the U.S. before they put his ass in jail? And why did he ever come back? There must be somebody or something here that they can't stay away from. Or maybe they weren't as wealthy as people think. It just doesn't add up.

Haggard Celine

(16,847 posts)
14. I guess when you get away with heinous crimes for so long,
Thu Dec 23, 2021, 09:59 PM
Dec 2021

you begin to think that you're untouchable. That's a serious disconnect from reality. These people are not only the worst sort of criminals, they appear to be quite insane.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
23. Only if she planned ahead.
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 03:08 PM
Dec 2021

She never thought she would be charged.

Once the wheels set in motion. Virtually all of that is frozen.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
10. She was also an heiress to a huge fortune.
Thu Dec 23, 2021, 06:45 PM
Dec 2021

I never understood why Epstein didn’t stay out of the country, nor why she didn’t.

Rich, but not so smart I guess.

 

Sur Zobra

(3,428 posts)
19. Jizzlane hadn't worked for
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 03:15 AM
Dec 2021

Epstein for years before he died so she left him long ago.

She didn’t run because she likely believed that she would never be arrested and charged with procurement, and maybe she assumed that the statute of limitations had expired on all her crimes

Haggard Celine

(16,847 posts)
21. Jizzlane
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 07:30 AM
Dec 2021
I guess we'll hear more in the trial, but right now there is a lot of mystery surrounding her and Epstein. I had never heard that she had quit working for him. The media talk as if she was loyal to Epstein and was working for him up until the last minute. I don't know if what they report is just sensationalism or if they're trying to obscure the truth for some reason.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
3. I don't understand it either, but maybe they trust...
Thu Dec 23, 2021, 03:27 PM
Dec 2021

... that their wealth with spare them any consequences in the USA judicial system? There's been precedent in that regard.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
4. I think her father, Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine worked for Israeli intelligence
Thu Dec 23, 2021, 03:41 PM
Dec 2021

Particularly Robert Maxwell. I think he pioneered the whole "sex kompromat on yachts" genre that's become "spy craft" lore.

Epstein and Ghislaine did the same but expanded the operation exponentially and offered their blackmail operation to the highest international bidders.

Tbh, I don't know if Jeffrey Epstein is dead or alive. The prison death is way too convenient.

I believe Ghislaine had kompromat on #Traitor but Bill Barr disappeared it (don't forget Barr and Epstein have a decades long relationship). I think she thought she was safe and maybe even "protected" here in the US

pecosbob

(7,542 posts)
5. Time for Moscow Moscow.
Thu Dec 23, 2021, 04:04 PM
Dec 2021

My Russian girlfriend Natasha approves of this meme.


(Original in German)


(English lyrics)

Moscow, Moscow, drinking vodka all night long, keeps you happy, makes you strong, ho ho ho ho hey.
Moscow, Moscow, come and have a drink again, you will never leave again, ha ha ha ha hey.




Johonny

(20,869 posts)
17. They're mostly Teflon in US court. I assume after Epstein's sweet heart deal in Florida
Thu Dec 23, 2021, 11:01 PM
Dec 2021

she assumed she had nothing to fear from our legal system. It's often true for the mega-wealthy.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
20. One of the Max Factor heirs went on the run
Fri Dec 24, 2021, 04:41 AM
Dec 2021

after drugging and raping several women, he eventually was caught.

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