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(6,477 posts)You dont want to?
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)It's a bad slogan.
calimary
(81,507 posts)Aiming to weaken him so they can take the White House in 2024.
And like it or not, THAT comes down to one guy. And how we have that guys back.
Too many whiners complaining that he hasnt done anything/enough/fill-in-the-blank-here. Its a corrective aimed at THEM.
calimary
(81,507 posts)Anything thats clever and can fit on a bumper sticker and takes his side when hes under constant assault from the unfortunately-well-organized/funded/amplified will enhance the pushback. And I think we have to BIGTIME amplify the pushback. Any such effort by Dems so far seems awfully anemic to me.
Were up against an enemy that uses verbal bombs and mace and brickbats. Im tired of going into battle armed with nothing but feather dusters.
gulliver
(13,197 posts)We need to have his back. I have no patience for anyone who claims to be on the left but doesn't strongly support Biden. To me, they're not pulling their weight for the team. Anyone who claims to be a Dem or any flavor of liberal or progressive who would, for example, tell a pollster that they disapprove of Biden's performance should just simply be considered effectively a Republican.
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I wish I could recommend your post, gulliver!
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,448 posts)MineralMan
(146,333 posts)What did you think?
calimary
(81,507 posts)MineralMan
(146,333 posts)Obviously, stirring up more support for President Biden will help across the board.
Some just can't get over their feeling that they aren't getting everything they want this very minute.
calimary
(81,507 posts)MineralMan
(146,333 posts)They will need full-throated support and strong GOTV efforts in 2022 and 2014. If we can get over ourselves and get behind those things, we can regain control of this country. If we offer only weak support, we will lose. We can't afford to do that.
calimary
(81,507 posts)DEFINITELY This!!!
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,448 posts)calimary
(81,507 posts)And to the opposition - if you want to get into their face - or simply offer guidance toward improvement.
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)Directed towards Democrats, it would seem chiding and nagging. Said towards a Republican, the reply would likely be something along the lines of I never backed him in the first place.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)calimary
(81,507 posts)I do find myself reminded of one of my all-time favorite movie quotes.
It comes from the 1980 film The Competition, starring Amy Irving as a top-level young pianist in an international competition, Lee Remick as her piano teacher/coach/mentor, and Richard Dreyfuss as her main competitor-turned-lover. The love affair goes awry amidst the pressure of the competition and Amy Irving sits in a side room in a big blue funk about the relationships possible end because she won the competition. So Lee Remick seeks to straighten out her prize student:
Its going to take another 100 years for nature to evolve the kind of man you have in mind. Until that time, get out there and dance with what there IS!
Hard to describe how powerful I found that quote to be - not just regarding a specific love affair, but WAY relevant, just metaphorically - in the sense of pointing out a well-intentioned but mistaken positioning: keep holding out for perfect when the merely good is right in front of you, staring you straight in the face.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)You did ask what people thought.
calimary
(81,507 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,448 posts)calimary
(81,507 posts)And I think its worth aiming at wobbly Dems, and uncertain independents. Especially as we go into an election year where all the talk seems to be leaning against Democrats keeping control of the House and Senate.
Pantagruel
(2,580 posts)I like
"GOP simply can't govern!"
Followed by a region specific or national list of their incompetence and criminality.
They've handed us a treasure trove of their screw ups with which to hammer them .
calimary
(81,507 posts)Republicans dont want to help anyone. (Except the rich who dont need any help.)
calimary
(81,507 posts)We HAVE TO UNITE!
Must!!!
Have to!
The last thing we need to do, going to a critical election year (an EMERGENCY election year), is to be waffling and quibbling and giving up on a President who doesnt get ANY credit for all the beneficial things hes done for America, in his first year, and the Perfection or Bust folks on our side cannot be ignored or shrugged off because he hasnt turned out to be some Perfection Superman Machine in their view.
I think we have to push back on that, and remind each other whats at stake if we quibble and complain about how disappointed we are in the job hes done.
We risk having them not show up at the polls next November if we dont get big, strong, and solid behind him.
Its a mere midterm election coming up. His turn at re-election isnt til 2024. But you bet yer ass hes gonna be on the ballot in 2022. The bad guys are gonna do everything they can to put him there, to help soften his support so hes a dead man walking by 2024. THAT, I suspect, is their strategy.
This is Red Alert time! And we need to act NOW.
iemanja
(53,072 posts)The bill? I disagree. It's better to focus on what something does for the people rather than making it about the president. As a general slogan, I don't see what it accomplishes. The people we need to reach are wavering on Biden. Being told they need to support him "better" isn't going to convince them.
calimary
(81,507 posts)Especially when all they hear in the media is one of a thousand versions of Dump on Biden.
I think pushback is needed. All kinds of pushback. Gentle and otherwise. As often as possible.
LuckyCharms
(17,460 posts)VOTE DEMOCRATIC. Prosperity & Equity for ALL Americans
NO to personalities, YES to your well-being. BIDEN/HARRIS
BIDEN/HARRIS. For YOU and your FAMILY
NO to division. YES to the UNITED States. BIDEN/HARRIS
LET'S GO BIDEN. Biden/Harris 2024
LuckyCharms
(17,460 posts)JOE BIDEN doesn't mock disabled people
VOTE BIDEN. Spray tans and orange hair don't stop nuclear missiles
VOTE BIDEN. You won't have to tell your children what paying hush money to a hooker means
JOE BIDEN. Because Putin fears him
Vote for the guy who can comb his hair by himself. In mere seconds
BIDEN. Because we do not want the leader of the free world paying for sex
JILL NEVER PUSHED JOE'S HAND AWAY IN DISGUST
VOTE BIDEN. He knows how to drive a car
VOTE BIDEN. He won't stare into the sun during an eclipse
Serving in Vietnam vs. dodging STDs with Epstein...JOE BIDEN KNOWS WHY THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THING