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End of every recent year they've died in threes. This year: (Original Post) CousinIT Dec 2021 OP
John madden demtenjeep Dec 2021 #1
Sondheim, Wayne Thiebaud, John Madden Retrograde Dec 2021 #2
The death rate is about 7.6 / 1000 population annually. Klaralven Dec 2021 #7
and John Madden, and my neighbor who died on Christmas morning (though not a celebrity) RockRaven Dec 2021 #3
People see patterns even when there are none. PTWB Dec 2021 #4
This people dying in threes is an old superstition. Disaffected Dec 2021 #5
Human nature is drawn Karma13612 Dec 2021 #10
Yes, there is that aspect of it. Disaffected Dec 2021 #12
Indeed! Eom Karma13612 Dec 2021 #18
"Three on a match" Raine Dec 2021 #16
There ya go!! Eom Karma13612 Dec 2021 #19
I Believe It Goes Back Further ProfessorGAC Dec 2021 #20
Thanks for the added info, very interesting! 👍🙂 nt Raine Dec 2021 #27
One, possibly apocryphal explanation , is that Disaffected Dec 2021 #23
People with dyslexia can often make connections that others miss. Poiuyt Dec 2021 #14
Dole, Reid, McCo????? NQCowboy68 Dec 2021 #6
Also Thomas Lovejoy, another big champion of conservation and biological diversity. GoCubsGo Dec 2021 #8
Superstition bullshit edhopper Dec 2021 #9
What makes it a Christian superstition? former9thward Dec 2021 #11
Yes, I don't think it is confined to Christianity (or any other particular religion). Disaffected Dec 2021 #13
Thanks edhopper Dec 2021 #21
Glad to help. Disaffected Dec 2021 #22
Not religious. Just making a casual observation. CousinIT Dec 2021 #15
Fixed edhopper Dec 2021 #26
It's not a Christian superstition Raine Dec 2021 #17
I corrected that edhopper Dec 2021 #25
The reassurance of their light LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2021 #24
Betty White. I stand corrected. And I HATE it. n/t CousinIT Dec 2021 #28

Retrograde

(10,152 posts)
2. Sondheim, Wayne Thiebaud, John Madden
Tue Dec 28, 2021, 10:53 PM
Dec 2021

actually, people die in the hundreds of thousands at this time of year - and at every other time. We tend to notice the famous ones and forget the vast masses

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
7. The death rate is about 7.6 / 1000 population annually.
Tue Dec 28, 2021, 11:30 PM
Dec 2021

Unfortunately, the birth rate is 18 / 1000 annually.

So for 7900 million, that is 60 million deaths or about 165 thousand per day.

Net population gain is 82 million annually or about 225 thousand per day. That's about one new USA every 4 years.

https://knoema.com/atlas/World/Death-rate

Disaffected

(4,568 posts)
5. This people dying in threes is an old superstition.
Tue Dec 28, 2021, 11:20 PM
Dec 2021

What typically happens is that they start counting and when three is reached, for some reason they start over or stop counting. The same thing would exist for two or three or four etc. but three was chosen for some reason, likely related to some other superstition.

Karma13612

(4,554 posts)
10. Human nature is drawn
Tue Dec 28, 2021, 11:45 PM
Dec 2021

To three’s.

I get what you mean about the ‘three in a row deaths’.

But when you look at the other uses of three:
Three strikes and you’re out.
Three tries on a password, then you’re locked out.
Lots of entities are 3-letter acronyms.

These aren’t actually superstitions, just subconscious man made patterns that have been adopted and stood the test of time.





Disaffected

(4,568 posts)
12. Yes, there is that aspect of it.
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 01:46 AM
Dec 2021

Perhaps there is something intrinsic in threes. For instance:

https://www.bookofthrees.com/the-rule-of-three-in-mathematics/

Another thing that occurs to me is that three is commonly the highest number that most can grasp instantly as a single entity i.e without thinking of it as a combination of smaller values.

Perhaps superstitions such as three in a row deaths have an origin rooted in those more basic concepts(??). Interesting topic....

ProfessorGAC

(65,159 posts)
20. I Believe It Goes Back Further
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 10:47 AM
Dec 2021

I've definitely heard it as it relates to trench warfare in WW1.
I've heard it may have gone back as far as the Crimean War.
It was based on the anecdotal evidence that lighting three cigarettes off the same match gave a sniper time to see & key in on that location.
In fact, in WW1, even if lighting 2, the protocol was light the 2 cigarettes and move a couple feet away. The sniper shooting where the flame used to be was shooting at nothing.
I don't know that there was specific data to suggest a true risk increase on that third cigarette, but it generally makes sense.

Disaffected

(4,568 posts)
23. One, possibly apocryphal explanation , is that
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 01:30 PM
Dec 2021

the lighting of three smokes took about the time required for a sniper to take aim and fire. It was therefore the third (unlucky) guy who got the shot....

Or maybe the guy holding the match got his fingers burned.

Poiuyt

(18,130 posts)
14. People with dyslexia can often make connections that others miss.
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 02:03 AM
Dec 2021

Talk about fascinating brains.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
8. Also Thomas Lovejoy, another big champion of conservation and biological diversity.
Tue Dec 28, 2021, 11:30 PM
Dec 2021

He died on Christmas Day, just a couple of days before Edward O. Wilson.

edhopper

(33,606 posts)
9. Superstition bullshit
Tue Dec 28, 2021, 11:32 PM
Dec 2021

Last edited Wed Dec 29, 2021, 11:56 AM - Edit history (1)

People die, we mourn them.
Don't make more of it.

CousinIT

(9,256 posts)
15. Not religious. Just making a casual observation.
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 02:46 AM
Dec 2021

No attempt to be accurate, 'Christian', scientific or anything else.

Exccuuuuuuse ME!

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,496 posts)
24. The reassurance of their light
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 01:59 PM
Dec 2021

We lost three great leaders




The past few weeks have been filled with the deaths of acclaimed scientists, political veterans and cultural giants. They are men and women of advanced age who have succumbed to a variety of chronic ailments or simply to the passing of time. They enjoyed long lives and accomplished a great many things; theirs were not lives cut short, but rather ones that followed a gloriously long trajectory.

And yet their deaths seem especially sad, not because their lives were of any greater inherent value than a Jane Doe who might have died anonymously or a singular relative in a quiet corner of a small town who left this earth surrounded by friends and family, but because their particular prominence was a bright reminder of something that seems endangered or wholly missing in these times. They were warming lights in the midst of darkness.

They were complicated just as everyone is, but their deaths are a reminder that the culture has little ability to stomach nuance and complexity, shades of gray and the middle ground. The details of their lives fill books, perhaps they have even pontificated in their own memoirs. But the heartfelt sorrow over their deaths is more often sparked by a minute detail in the grand sweep of their story, an intimate moment amid all of the public accolades, a disappointment faced with aplomb.....

As we mourn the dead, we make peace with their flaws and appreciate their talents. We reminisce about their sense of humor, their kindness and their generosity. The statesman Robert J. Dole, 98, is memorialized in the same pages as the fashion editor Grace Mirabella, 92, and the children’s book author Beverly Cleary, 104. All of them shaped the culture, and their deaths leave us longing for something that they represented. Dole was the military veteran with political ambition whose death reminded Washington that it wasn’t always so inhospitable to compromise and civility, let alone facts. Mirabella, a former editor in chief of Vogue who rebounded from being fired to launch an admired glossy that bore her name, believed style was a conversation starter but should not be the entirety of its content. And Cleary saw childhood in all of its scary, joyful, boring reality.

They were reminders of what it means to be flexible in a world that has gone rigid. They recognized that the very things that complicate life can also power us through it. We are not one thing or the other. We are a host of messy bits and pieces. And we mourn them because they made being fully human both an admirable and daunting accomplishment.


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