Sun Jan 2, 2022, 11:11 AM

milestogo (12,740 posts)

"I've done my own research and decided not to get the vaccine".

I did not grow up in the age of the internet.

I did not grow up in the age of social media.

In high school one of my teachers spent a whole semester showing us how to do research for a paper. But the topic was nothing so important as getting vaccinated.

We live in an age where there is a huge amount of readily accessible information. But a lot of people don't know how to use it. Just as you can make an argument for just about anything from the Bible, you can find any opinion you want on the internet.

Facebook is not research. You can find any opinion you want on Facebook.

Twitter is not research. You can find any opinion you want on Twitter.

Listening to Joe Rogan is not research.

In this age, people consider all sources of information to be equal. They are not.

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119 replies	Author	Time	Post
"I've done my own research and decided not to get the vaccine". (Original post)	milestogo	Jan 2022	OP
I always wonder	Diamond_Dog	Jan 2022	#1
Because at some level they already know what the answer would be.	milestogo	Jan 2022	#2
Confirmation Bias.	BlueIdaho	Jan 2022	#24
Yes!	keithbvadu2	Jan 2022	#50
Bingo.	paleotn	Jan 2022	#54
Yep. They've "researched" it, alright.	calimary	Jan 2022	#61
-Or the bed of a red Chevy pickup.	soldierant	Jan 2022	#88
Bingo	Farmer-Rick	Jan 2022	#58
What doctors should do:	ret5hd	Jan 2022	#4
They should	Rebl2	Jan 2022	#19
Hell, most of them can't even stand up to	Dark n Stormy Knight	Jan 2022	#104
So true	Rebl2	Jan 2022	#108
And refer them to a doctor who will treat them for their self-diagnosis	keithbvadu2	Jan 2022	#53
Dr. Oz, Dr. Google, Dr. Twitter...	ret5hd	Jan 2022	#71
Tried that and failed...	allegorical oracle	Jan 2022	#91
It never fails to astound me...	ailsagirl	Jan 2022	#93
Near As I Can Tell	RobinA	Jan 2022	#110
People don't seem to have much common sense these days.	Haggard Celine	Jan 2022	#3
Its like getting your manicurist to do your heart surgery.	milestogo	Jan 2022	#5
There you go!	Haggard Celine	Jan 2022	#6
Well, electing Trump in 2016, and then the fact that 70 million people voted for the guy	PatrickforB	Jan 2022	#38
I'm not a plumber, but good ones are skilled individuals	johnnyfins	Jan 2022	#106
I get it, but stand by my analogy. A plumber may be VERY talented. However, I would not	PatrickforB	Jan 2022	#119
every time there is a theory of gravity, it is mixed up with fringe mathematics.	kiri	Jan 2022	#46
Now You Tell Me!	RobinA	Jan 2022	#112
Tides disprove 'gravity'	kiri	Jan 2022	#57
Never a "misunderstanding"... (n/t)	Moostache	Jan 2022	#107
it seems to me	airplaneman	Jan 2022	#74
Humans, by nature, are not rational creatures.	Kaleva	Jan 2022	#83
It Is A Feature	RobinA	Jan 2022	#111
Wiki is not research, either.	fierywoman	Jan 2022	#7
In its defense, it can be a place to begin, but then yes, you do need to	PatrickforB	Jan 2022	#40
If you have a trusted resource it doesn't have to be that complicated.	milestogo	Jan 2022	#113
Indeed. That is all you need concerning whether to get vaxxed or not. I research labor market	PatrickforB	Jan 2022	#118
Can I get your primary source,	multigraincracker	Jan 2022	#8
Either you don't know what research is	Alpeduez21	Jan 2022	#9
Yep	Richard58	Jan 2022	#20
I want to ask these "researchers"...	3catwoman3	Jan 2022	#10
Librarians and media coordinator spend hours a week	Thtwudbeme	Jan 2022	#11
Credible source story:	cbabe	Jan 2022	#28
Awww ...i love middle schoolers	Thtwudbeme	Jan 2022	#30
Yes. And easy to excite about education. 'Let's get ready for high school!'	cbabe	Jan 2022	#32
I'm in the workforce development system, and businesses tell us all the time	PatrickforB	Jan 2022	#44
+1 nt	spooky3	Jan 2022	#60
Bernie has been hammering those questions for years.	LuckyLib	Jan 2022	#86
Indeed. And now he has been joined by the Squad, Senator Warren, and Katie Porter,	PatrickforB	Jan 2022	#95
Having Worked	RobinA	Jan 2022	#114
There's an element fear denial with these folks	nuxvomica	Jan 2022	#12
It's super easy now to get the best information.	BradBo	Jan 2022	#13
It is deeper than that... Sometimes even with good facts they can jump to invalid conclusions.	Josiesdad	Jan 2022	#14
Gravity is often taught in schools as a fact, when in fact it is not even a good theory	kiri	Jan 2022	#42
Exactly why bible thumpers should stay out of education - especially science	YP_Yooper	Jan 2022	#45
Do some more research and conclude that hospitals are useless.	Girard442	Jan 2022	#15
+100	CaptainTruth	Jan 2022	#34
Conclusions about hospitals.	keithbvadu2	Jan 2022	#59
Yes.Research is not finding an opinion you agree with and falsely identifying that opinion as fact.	ShazamIam	Jan 2022	#16
Well, now it's just as easy to get incorrect information as correct.	MineralMan	Jan 2022	#17
They don't call it social media for nothing.	patphil	Jan 2022	#18
This is not new to the pandemic	Orrex	Jan 2022	#21
A while ago I had a neighbor and friend who was right wing.	milestogo	Jan 2022	#23
I sympathize, believe me!	Orrex	Jan 2022	#69
Contradicting	RobinA	Jan 2022	#115
oh I remember those fucking idiots	Skittles	Jan 2022	#99
It was a rare week that I wasn't called a "Big Pharma shill"	Orrex	Jan 2022	#109
That should be on some people's tombstones. n/t	thesquanderer	Jan 2022	#22
I think you summarized it yourself: bible believers and anti-vaxxers overlap almost 100%	cadoman	Jan 2022	#25
Five eyes... never heard of that. Always something new to learn.	keithbvadu2	Jan 2022	#62
Opinions Are Like Assholes...	GB_RN	Jan 2022	#26
And some anecdotes, like the one about bloated testicles from the vaccine	milestogo	Jan 2022	#27
Could not agree more.	Jon King	Jan 2022	#29
There's always been a sense that people as individuals can be their own "experts"	milestogo	Jan 2022	#37
And they are so selective as to when they are medical experts!!	Jon King	Jan 2022	#43
Quote of the week: 'If science can't be questioned, it's not science'	milestogo	Jan 2022	#48
Aaron Rogers sounds so utterly stupid with that quote.	Jon King	Jan 2022	#65
As A Former Social Worker	RobinA	Jan 2022	#116
that's my favorite !	monkeyman1	Jan 2022	#100
Hey! If anyone gets more that five likes, it must be true.	40RatRod	Jan 2022	#31
Overheard one on radio saying she was doing a research on Covid	malaise	Jan 2022	#33
Especially for a layman	Sgent	Jan 2022	#35
Our education system needs to teach critical thing skills.	CaptainTruth	Jan 2022	#36
Yep. Conservatives aren't about to teach kids how NOT to be fooled.	TeamProg	Jan 2022	#52
Logic and Debate should be required classes in public schools.	LudwigPastorius	Jan 2022	#39
...	Nevilledog	Jan 2022	#41
Yes.	Snackshack	Jan 2022	#47
"In this age, (IGNORANT) people consider all sources of information to be equal."	TeamProg	Jan 2022	#49
Now, then, and always: You Can't Fix Stupid. (nt)	Paladin	Jan 2022	#51
people consider all sources of information to be equal. They are not.	YP_Yooper	Jan 2022	#55
In other words	BumRushDaShow	Jan 2022	#67
+1000	YP_Yooper	Jan 2022	#68
Those kind of disagreements take place at a much higher level of discussion	milestogo	Jan 2022	#85
Hence, The Point	RobinA	Jan 2022	#117
If someone said to me they did their own research on vaccinations	Hieronymus Phact	Jan 2022	#56
Well, and that makes another point.	milestogo	Jan 2022	#70
Or ask them to research Edward Jenner and smallpox vaccine.	Aussie105	Jan 2022	#80
Hehehe	I_UndergroundPanther	Jan 2022	#97
Yes, you can do your own research, double blind studies, etc.	Jon King	Jan 2022	#63
And Candace Owens is not a doctor or a public health expert.	Initech	Jan 2022	#64
Research pays off	keithbvadu2	Jan 2022	#66
"Liberal Media" memes gave us Both Sides overcorrection	Ruby the Liberal	Jan 2022	#72
These people do not understand what research really means	elias7	Jan 2022	#73
Problems	MFM008	Jan 2022	#75
I'm sorry that happened.	milestogo	Jan 2022	#78
These same people will not hesitate to go to a hospital if there is an emergency	JI7	Jan 2022	#76
I'm surprised these medical Einsteins don't march into the hospital and overthrow the doctors!	bucolic_frolic	Jan 2022	#77
Research not needed, surely?	Aussie105	Jan 2022	#79
these morons confuse research and education	Skittles	Jan 2022	#81
Confirmation bias happens to everyone	Kaleva	Jan 2022	#82
A cartoon showed an anti-vaxxer asked by his employer what religion he belong to,	Liberty Belle	Jan 2022	#84
My answer if someone tells me to do my own research	SCantiGOP	Jan 2022	#87
Reminds me of a friend at work when we had a covid argument	bhikkhu	Jan 2022	#89
Vaccine is proven to work to keep you out of the grave.	Smackdown2019	Jan 2022	#90
I like the ones who lie about being vaccinated	IronLionZion	Jan 2022	#92
You can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool the virus.	milestogo	Jan 2022	#94
I taught how to do research in high school...Getting the true facts with documentation is not ..EASY	Stuart G	Jan 2022	#96
You should respond "I've done my own research and I wish you good luck."	Renew Deal	Jan 2022	#98
I did not grow up in that age	True Blue American	Jan 2022	#101
These are twelve word that sear my heart	anamnua	Jan 2022	#102
I fear the Scientific Method and rational debate are endangered species.	KY_EnviroGuy	Jan 2022	#103
A wide streak of anti-intellectualism defines this country	EYESORE 9001	Jan 2022	#105

Response to milestogo (Original post)

Sun Jan 2, 2022, 11:21 AM

Diamond_Dog (23,853 posts)

1. I always wonder

What’s wrong with asking your doctor? That’s what I do.

"I've done my own research and decided not to get the vaccine".

1. I always wonder

2. Because at some level they already know what the answer would be.

24. Confirmation Bias.

50. Yes!

54. Bingo.

61. Yep. They've "researched" it, alright.

88. -Or the bed of a red Chevy pickup.

58. Bingo

4. What doctors should do:

19. They should

104. Hell, most of them can't even stand up to

108. So true

53. And refer them to a doctor who will treat them for their self-diagnosis

71. Dr. Oz, Dr. Google, Dr. Twitter...

91. Tried that and failed...

93. It never fails to astound me...

110. Near As I Can Tell

3. People don't seem to have much common sense these days.

5. Its like getting your manicurist to do your heart surgery.

6. There you go!

38. Well, electing Trump in 2016, and then the fact that 70 million people voted for the guy

106. I'm not a plumber, but good ones are skilled individuals

119. I get it, but stand by my analogy. A plumber may be VERY talented. However, I would not

46. every time there is a theory of gravity, it is mixed up with fringe mathematics.

112. Now You Tell Me!

57. Tides disprove 'gravity'

107. Never a "misunderstanding"... (n/t)

74. it seems to me

83. Humans, by nature, are not rational creatures.

111. It Is A Feature

7. Wiki is not research, either.

40. In its defense, it can be a place to begin, but then yes, you do need to

113. If you have a trusted resource it doesn't have to be that complicated.

118. Indeed. That is all you need concerning whether to get vaxxed or not. I research labor market

8. Can I get your primary source,

9. Either you don't know what research is

20. Yep

10. I want to ask these "researchers"...

11. Librarians and media coordinator spend hours a week

28. Credible source story:

30. Awww ...i love middle schoolers

32. Yes. And easy to excite about education. 'Let's get ready for high school!'

44. I'm in the workforce development system, and businesses tell us all the time

60. +1 nt

86. Bernie has been hammering those questions for years.

95. Indeed. And now he has been joined by the Squad, Senator Warren, and Katie Porter,

114. Having Worked

12. There's an element fear denial with these folks

13. It's super easy now to get the best information.

14. It is deeper than that... Sometimes even with good facts they can jump to invalid conclusions.

42. Gravity is often taught in schools as a fact, when in fact it is not even a good theory

45. Exactly why bible thumpers should stay out of education - especially science

15. Do some more research and conclude that hospitals are useless.

34. +100

59. Conclusions about hospitals.

16. Yes.Research is not finding an opinion you agree with and falsely identifying that opinion as fact.

17. Well, now it's just as easy to get incorrect information as correct.

18. They don't call it social media for nothing.

21. This is not new to the pandemic

23. A while ago I had a neighbor and friend who was right wing.

69. I sympathize, believe me!

115. Contradicting

99. oh I remember those fucking idiots

109. It was a rare week that I wasn't called a "Big Pharma shill"

22. That should be on some people's tombstones. n/t

25. I think you summarized it yourself: bible believers and anti-vaxxers overlap almost 100%

62. Five eyes... never heard of that. Always something new to learn.

26. Opinions Are Like Assholes...

27. And some anecdotes, like the one about bloated testicles from the vaccine

29. Could not agree more.

37. There's always been a sense that people as individuals can be their own "experts"

43. And they are so selective as to when they are medical experts!!

48. Quote of the week: 'If science can't be questioned, it's not science'

65. Aaron Rogers sounds so utterly stupid with that quote.

116. As A Former Social Worker

100. that's my favorite !

31. Hey! If anyone gets more that five likes, it must be true.

33. Overheard one on radio saying she was doing a research on Covid

35. Especially for a layman