How can anyone not just defend, but cheer for the Marines in the video?

[Stinky The Clown]

Do they think this is a good thing? Do they think encouraging such acts will make the world safer beacuse their enemies will back down?

What sort of fucking moron must some of these hate filled right wing ragers be?

[SixthSense]

1. it's a sickness

it's called neoconservatism and it is the most toxic ideology ever introduced to the USA

[brewens]

2. Yup. I knew it. Just like they cheer for torture. Both should be a lesson

in why you don't send an army out to fight unless you absolutely have to. You're sure to have some sick bastards on your side too. Maybe we can downgrade that to just dumbasses. Now they're in trouble and they shouldn't have been in that position in the first place. So the Marines will make an example out of them. Great!

Sometimes I see one of those guys on lockup that I believe. If he woulda just not got in the car with the other jackasses, he might have never got in any trouble the rest of his life. They screwed up a lotta lives with those wars.

[phasma ex machina]

3. "You can't hold a man responsible for following orders, can you? ... In the Pacific we were told

you guys weren't even human - you were some kind of ape. And that we shouldn't worry about burning you out of your caves. Now all of a sudden, you're fine people - highly cultured - and it's propaganda about your lousy transistor radios."

Dialogue from "The Encounter," a censored Twilight Zone episode.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Encounter

Censored for coming too close to the truth about the powers-that-be.

[spanone]

4. good lord, who was cheering?

didn't hear that. sad.

[riderinthestorm]

8. I didn't hear anything about any cheering either. I wonder if the OP has a link? nt

[Stinky The Clown]

10. No link.

Go to the website that lives to follow DU and DUers. There the morons dwell.

[riderinthestorm]

11. I have no idea what that is. nt

[spanone]

15. oh, those morans.....

[Robb]

16. Which? Knuckle-draggers or "Joannie Loves Chachi"?

[chrisa]

22. I wouldn't go there, personally.

They're probably crazy enough to get peoples' IP addresses and try to track them down. They're very very crazy people.

[EFerrari]

38. Or, go take a big whiff of the catbox. The effect is identical.

lol

[11 Bravo]

29. Uber-twit Pam Geller was literally cheering the Marines for their little piss-fest.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

30. check the comments in the CNN article from yesterday

There was a wealth of disgusting commentary. CNN articles sometimes get several thousand responses, and I only saw a small portion of those, but what I did see was sickening--people cheering, one person talking about how defecation should have been added to the insult, and so on.

[Luminous Animal]

5. Democrats defend killing them. Pissing on them is the least of their worries.

[NathanTheGreat]

6. Christians

Of course we should be cheering them on...they're Muslims and as such, are not on our team. We should of course cheer when we get to turn human beings into toilets, as long as they pray to a different god.

It's just all part of following Jesus's message, which as I remember years of Sunday school teaching me something about killing the infidels and those who don't follow me are less than human. You know, the same parts of His teachings that say that blowing people up is just fine, as long as they wear a different color uniform than you.

Ok...just in case anyone hasn't figured it out yet, the sarcasm ends now...

I just can't fathom how people can claim to follow the teachings of Jesus...yet to be perfectly alright with spreading pain and human suffering around the globe. Is there something I'm missing here?

[bluestateguy]

7. They should not be cheered or defended

But they are entitled to due process and their side of the story before we draw conclusions from the comfort of our computer keyboards.

[riderinthestorm]

9. Do you have a link? nt

[Stinky The Clown]

12. No link

But here are some quotes. Maybe the Google machine's working tonight?

Piss on 'em.

They're trying to kill us, and I'm sure they wouldn't show our own corpses any more respect.

Piss on 'em.

You know, sir, my attitude is this:

No one in my life has ever threatened to kill me, has ever been poised to kill me, and so I really don't know how I'd react to such a situation.

However, I strongly suspect that if such were to happen, and I managed to kill him first, I'd do a Hell of a lot more than piss on the corpse. It's a perfectly normal and understandable reaction.

To the muslim mind and way of thinking, only dead muslims get respect. Notice that they have destroyed all the christian graveyards in the middle east. SO, eat bacon, drink beer and piss on them.

I'd buy all of them as many beers as they could drink.

Haven't the muslims dragged American soldiers bodies through the streets, burned them and then hung them up for viewing?

According to Mohammed, burning is forbidden, that is left to Allah and the hell fire. The dead muslims were on fire and the Marines were just putting out the fire.

They piss for me! I thank them.

OORAH!!!! If it was my son I'd capture a freeze frame, print it out on photo paper and hang the damn thing on our family wall. Anyone asked me why I have that on my wall I'd tell 'em "See that Marine, with the biggest wanker? That's my baby peeing on the enemy!" God Bless the US Marine Corps! <-- this from a woman

I hope they ripped off their heads first, then pissed down their necks.

More good muzzies.

Since the repeal of DADT what's wrong with a little golden shower fot the Tallibon

[EFerrari]

17. It is a war crime.

You don't respect your enemy because of who he is but because of who you are, because you respect yourself.

[EFerrari]

20. In fact, it is a war crime. n/t

[EFerrari]

31. See #28.

And the Geneva Conventions are very readable and readily available on line.

[EFerrari]

40. Calling out one crime doesn't obviate the others. n/t

[EFerrari]

42. The degree of deadness isn't the issue here, though.

The issue is how the living conduct themselves.

That's really the only issue, ever.

[muriel_volestrangler]

24. Really? It's a bad idea, but I highly doubt it's a war crime

War crimes tend to be about violence, killing and so on. The treatment of the living. Not disrespecting a culture by disrespecting the dead.

Can you really point to some part of international law that says this is a war crime?

[EFerrari]

27. I'd have to go look at the Geneva conventions again

but yes, there are rules about how to treat the dead, too. For example, tossing bin Laden's body into the ocean was technically illegal because you are supposed to mark the graves of war dead so the families can find them after the end of hostilities and so on. I'll see if I can pull it up.

[EFerrari]

28. Heres a ref from a Slate article (edit to add direct Geneva reference)

The respect for corpses is so rooted that we even agree to deal gently with the bodies of our enemies. International rules about the treatment of the battlefield dead date back centuries. Witness Shakespeare's Henry V, in which a French herald pleads with King Henry: "I come to thee for charitable license/ That we may wander o'er this bloody field/ To book our dead, and then to bury them." The 1949 Geneva Conventions explicitly provide that prevailing forces must "search for the [enemy's] dead and prevent their being despoiled." The conventions further require that enemy "dead are honorably interred, if possible according to the rites of the religion to which they belonged, that their graves are respected, grouped if possible according to the nationality of the deceased, properly maintained and marked so that they may always be found." Violators have been convicted and imprisoned.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2002/03/habeas_corpses.html


Here it is (or here one ref is):

2) [(2) p.152] Although this Article speaks only of measures
to prevent the "despoiling" (French, ' dépouillement ' of
the dead, it incontestably involves a prohibition of
"pillage", (French, ' pillage ') of the dead. The 1906
Convention made mention (Article 28) of individual acts of
pillage as an example of offences which Governments ought
to stop. The reason why this passage did not reappear in
either 1929 or 1949 was that the 1906 wording, instancing
this particular offence as an example, was replaced by a
more general provision for the punishment of "any act
contrary to the provisions of the... Convention" (Article
29 of the 1929 Convention and the similar Article 49 of
the 1949 Convention). Most military or ordinary criminal
codes already penalize pillage on the battlefield, and
countries which have not yet any provisions to that effect
are obliged under Article 49 of the 1949 Convention to
enact the necessary legislation;

http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/COM/365-570019?OpenDocument

[deutsey]

33. Here's a good online resource for the Geneva Conventions

http://www.spj.org/gc.asp

[EFerrari]

35. Thank you, deutsey.

It's sad to me that one of the things I've learned how to do in the last decade or so is flip quickly though the GC.

[muriel_volestrangler]

36. I do apologise; I had no idea the conventions went in to detail about the dead

Yes, that does make it look, to me, like a war crime.

[EFerrari]

37. Oh, no problem at all.

It's a measure of how out of control our military is, imo, that I even read them in the first place.

In and of themselves, the GC are a very interesting set of documents.

[polly7]

18. The same group the CIA gave little blue pills to, knowing that most of those warlords had child

brides? All Taliban .......... some good, some bad .... wtf knows anymore? Were the men given a trial before they were shot for doing something wrong, or just labelling them Taliban was enough to murder and piss on them? This has all gone so far beyond anything sane, it's a damn joke.

[LanternWaste]

26. I imagine it may have to do with the position

"so why the outrage for alleged disrepectful (sic) acts on the dead? "

I imagine it may have to do with the position that many people have in which predicating their own vulgarity on the actions of others is somewhat absurd, and accomplishes nothing good.

If the urination did indeed reconstruct a disfigured face, or prevent men from raping small children, I would agree it was a necessity. However, as it accomplishes nothing good, and results in potentially more anger directed towards the US, it seems, at best, counter-productive to US interests.

However, I do understand the person that rationalizes the behavior by implying "if they are monster, then we too should act the same way..."

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

14. "The Marine Corps Builds Men...err...strutting adolescents"

[politicallycorrect]

21. the OP is not coming down on the Marines.

I just wanna say that this is not the fault of the Marine Corp.

just because some idiot people serve in the military does not make all of them bad.

here are the few bad apples. every part of the world has them.

[Stinky The Clown]

23. Please demonstrate where I came down on the Marine Corps

This is not a rhetorical request. You appear to be accusing me of something. If you are, please be explicit about what I said in the OP that could be seen as coming down on the Marine Corps.

If you didn't mean that, then please edit or self delete your comment.

[Dr Fate]

32. I think we should still be allowed to kill 'em.

So long as it goes no further than that.

[redqueen]

34. Most countries in the world are steeped in violence.

How could anyone cheer for them? By growing up in this world and adopting the 'sick, violent revenge is awesome' norm. And it IS a norm. You see such things here: People state regularly all the horrible things they would do to this or that person if they could. It's a sickness IMO, and it sure isn't a rare one.

[EFerrari]

43. I agree with you, redqueen, it's like a contagion. n/t

[Donald Ian Rankin]

44. Because they're Taliban*, of course.

Frankly, if it weren't for the fact that a large number of people who *aren't* Taliban will be offended, angered, distressed and in some cases militarized by it, I wouldn't give a damn about people urinating on the corpses of the Taliban. And some people don't think it through to that extent.



*I don't know for sure whether they really were Taliban, but it seems highly likely, and the people cheering are presumably confident that they were.

[Major Hogwash]

45. Perry! How's that for an answer??

I knew one of them would, eventually.