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Major GOP strategist charged with teen sex trafficking (Original Post) RandySF Jan 2022 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2022 #1
Can't appear partisan. gab13by13 Jan 2022 #7
I don't remember seeing that timeline... Ohio Joe Jan 2022 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2022 #9
If what you said is true... Ohio Joe Jan 2022 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2022 #11
So... No cite for your claim? Ohio Joe Jan 2022 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2022 #14
Oh yeah... It's understood... Ohio Joe Jan 2022 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2022 #17
pfffftttt.... bwahahahaha Ohio Joe Jan 2022 #20
Jezus Krist, give it a farking rest Ferrets are Cool Jan 2022 #28
I have examples, gab13by13 Jan 2022 #19
Exactly right, Gab RandPaulsNeighbor Jan 2022 #30
So... Some of this I can address... Ohio Joe Jan 2022 #32
Paging QAnon... orwell Jan 2022 #2
Qanon can't find hay in a hay stack IronLionZion Jan 2022 #21
So Typical Me. Jan 2022 #3
Could some of those girls be one taken from their families at the border kimbutgar Jan 2022 #4
this was the charge in Minnesota GopherGal Jan 2022 #12
I worry about this too. Remember seeing a group of young teens taken from fierywoman Jan 2022 #31
I traveled home from Phoenix to SF in February of 2020 kimbutgar Jan 2022 #33
Good !!! He was charged in late 2021 right ? uponit7771 Jan 2022 #5
Yes August 2021 PaulRevere08 Jan 2022 #27
I thought this was going to be about the OTHER top GOPer in the news today for sex abuse allegations EarlG Jan 2022 #6
There really is PatSeg Jan 2022 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author MagickMuffin Jan 2022 #15
Republicons like to hang around with Pedophiles, don't they? All the time Projecting onto others MagickMuffin Jan 2022 #18
Many pics of prominent repubs with Josh Duggar keithbvadu2 Jan 2022 #23
Those pics look like he's... 2naSalit Jan 2022 #22
Serious question: What is behind all those curtains? MagickMuffin Jan 2022 #24
Great question. 2naSalit Jan 2022 #25
Anton Lazzaro seems to get around...hmm... MineralMan Jan 2022 #29

Response to RandySF (Original post)

gab13by13

(21,360 posts)
7. Can't appear partisan.
Fri Jan 7, 2022, 01:02 PM
Jan 2022

Democratic politicians better be extra careful obeying the law. An arrest of a Democrat would be proof of bipartisanship.

Ohio Joe

(21,757 posts)
8. I don't remember seeing that timeline...
Fri Jan 7, 2022, 01:06 PM
Jan 2022

But... You know... Gotta throw a knock at Garland no matter what

Response to Ohio Joe (Reply #8)

Ohio Joe

(21,757 posts)
10. If what you said is true...
Fri Jan 7, 2022, 01:14 PM
Jan 2022

Then where did this come from:

"He was supposed to be charged by now."

Got a cite?

And if you are saying that the DOJ is giving political cover for repugs... Who are you talking about other than the guy running it? Do you think there are rogue factions in the DOJ giving repugs cover and Garland does not see it?

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Response to Ohio Joe (Reply #16)

Ohio Joe

(21,757 posts)
20. pfffftttt.... bwahahahaha
Fri Jan 7, 2022, 01:34 PM
Jan 2022

Asking you to cite your claim is neither stalking nor protecting Gaetz but nice try to turn around your Garland bashing

gab13by13

(21,360 posts)
19. I have examples,
Fri Jan 7, 2022, 01:32 PM
Jan 2022

Garland chose not to prosecute individual one, and now the statute of limitations has expired.

Merrick Garland did not have to represent the office of the presidency in the E. Jeanne Carroll defamation law suit, but he did. Explain to me why a president defaming a person he is accused of raping is an official duty of the presidency? JMHO, but any AG taking that case I would complain about.

Garland chose not to go after the pro-Trump Cyber Ninjas who violated federal law, he instead wrote them a stern letter.

I also am waiting for his decision on Mark Meadow, day 23 today since he got the criminal referral from the select committee.

Merrick Garland is a nice guy, but we don't always need nice guys.

RandPaulsNeighbor

(104 posts)
30. Exactly right, Gab
Fri Jan 7, 2022, 03:33 PM
Jan 2022

Where is the drum beat for Meadows? Every day we saw post after post on Bannon, barely a word on Meadows. I would add, no Mueller report or a less generalized explanation as to why not.

He may be doing his due diligence on Gaetz or others involved that are caught up in his net, but there is no question on the report or Meadows. The people deserve to know the corruption of Barr, and Meadows blew any claim of privilege, so where is the beef?

Sorry, as it stands, Garland is willting in the face of hurting Republican feelings and their amorphous threats. So far, he is a bust. He can still turn it around, but the clock is ticking.

It should be remembered that Obama nominated him because he is so middle of the road and milctose that he would not spark an outcry on the right. Well, it appears, we got our human glass of milk, and I think it is skim.

I hope he proves me wrong.

Ohio Joe

(21,757 posts)
32. So... Some of this I can address...
Fri Jan 7, 2022, 04:53 PM
Jan 2022

Though I expect none of it will satisfy you.

"Garland chose not to prosecute individual one, and now the statute of limitations has expired."

This is in regard to campaign finance violations. They faced a few issues... First, Cohen is neither a reliable nor believable witness to put on the stand and he is the only witness. Second, even if they did go forward and put Cohen on the stand the defense would rip him apart, including other times he lied to the feds. Next, campaign finance violations are almost never get a conviction and with only one unreliable witness it would almost certainly end without one.

"Merrick Garland did not have to represent the office of the presidency in the E. Jeanne Carroll defamation law suit, but he did. Explain to me why a president defaming a person he is accused of raping is an official duty of the presidency? JMHO, but any AG taking that case I would complain about."

I agree. Garland opted to follow bad precedent and would have much better served justice to abandon it instead.

"Garland chose not to go after the pro-Trump Cyber Ninjas who violated federal law, he instead wrote them a stern letter."

The ninjas wanted to go door to door as part of their plan. Garland warned them that if they did, they would be prosecuted so they abandoned the plan. That repugs in Arizona hired them for a bogus recount is not in and of itself a federal crime by the ninjas. They have court cases hammering them for not complying with court orders, but they seem to be out of business. Plus they scammed plenty of magats for millions. Unfortunately, our current laws do not give Garland any ability to go after the people who did it, they are protected by corporate law... Or are as best I've seen so far. This should not be allowed but Garland does not make the law.

"I also am waiting for his decision on Mark Meadow, day 23 today since he got the criminal referral from the select committee."

I am as well, I expect we'll see what happens before long.

"Merrick Garland is a nice guy, but we don't always need nice guys."

Garland is following the law and that is what we need. Bringing cases based on what we want to happen and that would be laughed out of court was what TFG did... I see no reason to follow his example.

kimbutgar

(21,162 posts)
4. Could some of those girls be one taken from their families at the border
Fri Jan 7, 2022, 12:50 PM
Jan 2022

I always had a bad feeling some of those children taken from INS were sex trafficked. I hope this opens up that can of worms.

GopherGal

(2,008 posts)
12. this was the charge in Minnesota
Fri Jan 7, 2022, 01:20 PM
Jan 2022

So INS involvement is unlikely (unless there are some incidents at the Canadian border I'm unaware of...)

fierywoman

(7,686 posts)
31. I worry about this too. Remember seeing a group of young teens taken from
Fri Jan 7, 2022, 03:41 PM
Jan 2022

their parents and sent to NY, I think.

kimbutgar

(21,162 posts)
33. I traveled home from Phoenix to SF in February of 2020
Fri Jan 7, 2022, 06:55 PM
Jan 2022

On my flight while I was boarding I saw a woman who wasn’t their Mother with three young girls, a pair of twins about 9 and a younger one about 4. I mentioned to the lady about the twins and she said they were actually triplets and the third was a boy who was going to Los Angeles. They were all holding dolls and looked scared. I am a teacher and know when children are stressed. I said hello to them and the lady said they don’t speak English only Spanish. My Spanish is limited but I asked them how are they doing? One girl said malo( bad). When we finally got on they were in first class and I was in economy plus. But it really bothered me the entire flight something was wrong. When we got to SF and I went to baggage claim I didn’t see them.

To this day I think about those girls and wonder if they were being sex trafficked. It was at the height of assolini taking children away from their parents at the border. But my gut told me something bad was happening to them and I felt helpless.

EarlG

(21,949 posts)
6. I thought this was going to be about the OTHER top GOPer in the news today for sex abuse allegations
Fri Jan 7, 2022, 01:02 PM
Jan 2022
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10587383

There are almost too many to keep up with these days.

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
26. There really is
Fri Jan 7, 2022, 03:05 PM
Jan 2022

It is almost like you have to assume any GOPer is guilty of sex abuse unless proven innocent.

Response to RandySF (Original post)

MagickMuffin

(15,943 posts)
18. Republicons like to hang around with Pedophiles, don't they? All the time Projecting onto others
Fri Jan 7, 2022, 01:32 PM
Jan 2022



Perhaps Anton Lazzaro will spill some beans.


And just perhaps the Republicon Party is the guilty party concerning pedophiles, and sex trafficking.



Oh and be sure to read the twitter feed, more juicy details.

Here's #7/ Um, the woman who allegedly procured underage girls for Anton Lazzaro was arrested in Matt Gaetz’s county in Florida. Lazzaro has been photographed w/ Tucker Carlson. Gaetz claimed to have dined w/ Tucker & Gaetz’s young companion.



The air is getting thicker in here.




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