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Aspiring model, 27, dies from 'aggressive' cervical cancer one day after being diagnosedPorsche 'Pops' McGregor-Sims, 27, from Petersfield, Hampshire, was told by a doctor her hormones were to blame and her aggressive cancer went undiagnosed for months
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/aspiring-model-27-dies-aggressive-25871758
An aspiring young model died of cervical cancer at the age of 27 just months after being told by a doctor that her hormones were simply to blame for her "myriad" of symptoms, an inquest heard. Porsche 'Pops' McGregor-Sims had an "aggressive" form of the disease which had gone undiagnosed for months despite continual complaints of abdominal pain and bleeding.
The graduate passed away in hospital just a day after the cancer was discovered, having previously been told by the consultant that she didn't need to be physically examined and her problems could be linked to ceasing birth control.
Only weeks before her death - as Britain entered the first coronavirus lockdown - she was prescribed antibiotics over the phone for her condition, the hearing was told.
She was seen by a doctor face by face only after the GP thought her shortness of breath meant she had Covid. Her case has led a coroner to suggest national guidelines, which say women suspected of having the disease need to wait two weeks before being seen by a specialist, may have contributed to her death.
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CaliforniaPeggy
(149,636 posts)We are discounted because of our sex. We are looked down upon by too many who could be helping us survive the diseases that we get.
Instead, we die because we've been neglected by those who are supposed to pay attention.
Celerity
(43,408 posts)LiberatedUSA
(1,666 posts)I now fully understand the hell women have to go through before they finally get diagnosed with it. Years of this or that or just unexplained pain and ERs thinking we wanted to score pain meds.
CountAllVotes
(20,876 posts)I found out not only did I have a tumor the size of a 6 month old fetus in me, I also have endometriosis. It never goes away.
It wrecked me good and damn near killed me a few years later.
The doctors I saw did not believe me either. Many still don't!
So freakin' disgusting!!!!!
& recommend !!!!!!!!!
Demovictory9
(32,457 posts)I pointed to lump, doc touched it and STILL DID NOTHING. next doctor, I pointed it out and he basically reacted.. "OMG,, SURGERY TOMORROW!".
This was about 30 years ago.
yes, I had to be my own advocate by going through 3 doctors.
RandPaulsNeighbor
(104 posts)I think most points I have read here are valid. But, and I hate to go political here, a big point of focus in the article is a 2 week waiting period for a specialist in England's public care system. They are saying that was too long.
I have 4 different specialist appointments in the next 6 months. I have been waiting at least 6 months for all them. One will be an 8 month wait.
A large part of the article is about the inquest of the doctor. They do not leave out much. They give very personal details about the women's life. It is kind of shocking and unnecessary for the reader.
Disaffected
(4,557 posts)Physicians are not infallible and some are incompetent or quacks.
Google and second opinions are your friend.
FakeNoose
(32,645 posts)If someone doesn't get regular pap smear tests, they'd probably never know they had cervical cancer. Especially a young and otherwise healthy woman. What a tragic loss!
niyad
(113,341 posts)for months.
Demovictory9
(32,457 posts)BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)omg poor woman. ugh
iemanja
(53,035 posts)far too often. Something similar happened to my mother, though she is still alive. Her cancer grew greatly because her primary care physician didn't do any of the necessary tests. It turned out she had a form of blood cancer called Multiple Myeloma.
Celerity
(43,408 posts)It was bad for a while, but she's doing a lot better now.
Bev54
(10,053 posts)to recover, was not getting better so my sister took her to a different hospital emergency (she did billings for the hospital's emergency doctors so she knew them) They immediately did surgery because she had a 9 lb tumour. It was benign but how the other hospital did the first surgery and not even notice?? It was beyond crazy.
malaise
(269,054 posts)That doctor should lose his license
liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)Doctors dismiss our complaints as imaginary and we're not taken seriously. Not much has changed since we used to get diagnosed with having "hysterics".
Bev54
(10,053 posts)and so far the difference has made me not ever want a male....except I love the guy who did my ventricular ablation. I guess if they do save your life......
RobinA
(9,893 posts)dismissive doctor I ever had was a female. I think it's more an individual thing.
liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)And she's great, but I've had bad experiences with some male doctors, including one who gave me the creeps and I found out why when he ogled my breasts. The other hurdle is getting my insurance company to not nix the tests my doctor wants to run. Insurance companies have no business being involved in healthcare.
Bev54
(10,053 posts)Ms. Toad
(34,075 posts)Last edited Fri Jan 7, 2022, 09:12 PM - Edit history (1)
It was diagnosed at kidney-bean size. 90% of this type of cancer is diagnosed at golf-ball sized or larger -because that is the criteria for screening for it. Most are removed at anywhere from tennis ball to volleyball size - at which time they have nearly all metastasized, which accounts for a mortality in the range of 50% at 5 years.
Even after diagnosis and surgery to remove it, when I had to make an appointment because of an apparent regrowth (of this cancer which regrows more often than not), they did not want to make an appointment because the potential regrowth was not yet bigger than a golf ball.
That's on the tail end of the crappy, "let's not listen to the patient" end of my tale.
Back at the beginning
I've been watching this thing since 2014.
The first doctor told me I was being ridiculous, and rather than doing a biopsy he require me to make a second appointment for a punch biopsy (a trivial procedure that most dermatologists do immediately with suspicious skin lesions).
When the pathology report came back, I researched the skimpy report and found some troubling characteristics.
That same doctor refused to get answers to my questions from the pathologist, forcing me to make an appointment with the pathologist to get the answers I needed.
The pathologist confirmed the troubling characteristics - and added two to the list (4 out of the 5 bad signs, IIRC, which suggest that the tumor I have should be treated as pre-cancerous.)
Back to my regular dermatologist (I only saw the insta-doc because the lesion was growing too rapidly to wait for my regular dermatologist). She excised regrowths in the same area 3 more times between 2014 and 2020.
In November 2020 - she excised another regrowth (humoring me, but certain it was nothing). On December 4, 2020 (to her surprise, but not mine) I was diagnosed with myxofibrosarcoma.
It is ONLY because I demanded an excision, and ONLY because I repeatedly demanded excisions of any regrowth, that I was diagnosed at a stage where my prognosis is probably closer to 90% at 5 years than 50%.
The icing on the cake - my BIL was just diagnosed with a related, very aggressive cancer, after his doctor twice refused to excise the spot he was concerned about. She finally agreed because he kept picking at it. His prognosis is far worse than mine because his doctor didn't pay attention to his concerns, and he didn't demand it. While I was typing this out, I got the call that his has metastasized. Damn. The location plus metastasis dramatically decreases his chances of survival. He will now be seen by my current doctors, rather than the incompetent boobs who refused to take him seriously..
Doctors who do not take patients seriously can dramatically shorten the lives of their patients. The problem is dramatically worse with "female problems" . . . I have a story about that too. But dismissing concerns runs across the board. It also killed my FIL (bladder cancer which was ignored by his doctors for more than a year).
Don't EVER let a doctor tell you there is nothing wrong with you, when you know there is. Find another doctor, and another, and another until someone listens.
And on that note, I'm heading home to see how my spouse is doing - and to wait for a call from her sister (who will have more medical specific advice about my BIL). 2022 is off to a rip-roaring start.
Celerity
(43,408 posts)LoisB
(7,206 posts)GB_RN
(2,356 posts)People should lose medical licenses and go to jail over shit like this. I dont know how they do it in Britain, but if I were family, Id be pushing for that. Its the incompetence and arrogance of her physicians that killed her.
Solly Mack
(90,773 posts)Makes me angry. Women go through this more often than a lot of people realize. Doctors who ignore our concerns. Who dismiss us as "hormonal".
colorado_ufo
(5,734 posts)I asked if it could be my thyroid, having recently read an article that described the symptoms. He said, "Looking at your skin and hair, I don't think that is likely, but if you want we will run the tests and have the results next week." The next morning, at 11:30 AM, the doctor himself called and said, "The lab called"; (I didn't like to hear that); "There was no detectable thyroid hormone in your body. They could not even run the tests. This is a medical emergency. We need to start you back on thyroid hormone gradually so as not to send you into cardiac arrest."
And so it goes.
ProfessorGAC
(65,076 posts)My wife, not me.
For a week or so, she's feeling rotten. Weak, constant fatigue, upset stomach, and so on.
Finally gets so bad we go to the hospital.
Blood test shows 105ppm sodium. 130-140 is normal. 90 is dead.
She's admitted and they start pumping IV saline.
Next morning, urine sodium is sky high. Blood sodium is 100.
GP & pysch both there trying to figure out what to do.
I run home & get on my laptop and start going through my wife's psych med list.
A new one she's on is LISTED ON THE FREAKING INTERNET of having the potential to trigger hyponatremia!
I run back to hospital and tell both doctors to take her off that med NOW! If she needs to go back on the prior med, ok but this med needs to go.
By 10pm that night (one dose missed) sodium is up to 108 and urine sodium is down.
By the next morning she was at 120 & feeling better.
By the next morning she was at 135 and was discharged.
I had to be the one to figure it out.
The kicker: the psych says to me "Gee, it's a good thing she married a scientist.". WTF!
Obviously, we found a new psych doctor.
colorado_ufo
(5,734 posts)Thank you so much for sharing this.
3catwoman3
(24,007 posts)I retired from 45 years as a peds nurse practitioner not quite a year ago. Telemedicine was a big reason. You CANNOT accurately diagnose something by phone or computer screen. My outlook was, If I can't see it, auscultate it (listen to it), or palpate it (touch it or feel it), I don't want to diagnose it."
Before telemedicine became so popular, people still wanted treatment without being examined. Not unusual on call for a parent to want an antibiotic called in for assorted reasons. My usual reply to such requests was, "I could do that, but I need you to understand that the very best I can do over the phone is to guess what might be going on with your child, and I would hate to guess wrong."
That usually put an end to the request.
demigoddess
(6,641 posts)after seeing 3 women doctors about my shortness of breath. The first one said I just needed a cholesterol pill, the second one said I had bronchitis, the third one said I was so anemic, I could have fallen over dead. It was colon cancer.
Cozmo
(1,402 posts)You know when someone isn't listening to you. Break the cycle and go to another doctor, your life may depend upon it.
niyad
(113,341 posts)Women's Rights And Issues? Thanks in advance.
This story is horrifying and obscene. That woman-hating quack needs to have his license revoked. But, alas, his dismissal of women is far too common.
niyad
(113,341 posts)link, or copy and paste. Would love iif you would post it.
Celerity
(43,408 posts)niyad
(113,341 posts)oou also post that wonderful graphic.