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kpete

(72,013 posts)
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 11:26 AM Jan 2022

LANCET: The End of the Pandemic Is Near -COVID-19 will continue but the end of the pandemic is near

By March, 2022 a large proportion of the world will have been infected with the omicron variant. With continued increases in COVID-19 vaccination, the use in many countries of a third vaccine dose, and high levels of infection-acquired immunity, for some time global levels of SARS-CoV-2 immunity should be at an all time high. For some weeks or months, the world should expect low levels of virus transmission.

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I use the term pandemic to refer to the extraordinary societal effortsover the past 2 years to respond to a new pathogen that have changed how individuals live their lives and how policy responses have developed in governments around the world. These efforts have saved countless lives globally. New SARS-CoV-2 variants will surely emerge and some may be more severe than omicron. Immunity, whether infection or vaccination derived, will wane, creating opportunities for continued SARS-CoV-2 transmission. Given seasonality, countries should expect increased potential transmission in winter months.

The impacts of future SARS-CoV-2 transmission on health, however, will be less because of broad previous exposure to the virus, regularly adapted vaccines to new antigens or variants, the advent of antivirals, and the knowledge that the vulnerable can protect themselves during future waves when needed by using high-quality masks and physical distancing. COVID-19 will become another recurrent disease that health systems and societies will have to manage. For example, the death toll from omicron seems to be similar in most countries to the level of a bad influenza season in northern hemisphere countries. The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimated the worse influenza season during the past decade in 2017–18 caused about 52 000 influenza deaths with a likely peak of more than 1500 deaths per day.11 The era of extraordinary measures by government and societies to control SARS-CoV-2 transmission will be over. After the omicron wave, COVID-19 will return but the pandemic will not.

MUCH MORE:
https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0140-6736%2822%2900100-3
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(22)00100-3/fulltext

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LANCET: The End of the Pandemic Is Near -COVID-19 will continue but the end of the pandemic is near (Original Post) kpete Jan 2022 OP
Link wouldn't open for me Poiuyt Jan 2022 #1
PDF kpete Jan 2022 #2
Thanks! Poiuyt Jan 2022 #25
COVID-19 will continue but the end of the pandemic is near Klaralven Jan 2022 #3
Strangely worded ismnotwasm Jan 2022 #4
Well, this is heartening dweller Jan 2022 #5
Overall, yes, but not completely Tom Rinaldo Jan 2022 #10
I don't think they're talking about eradication, rather that it will become endemic, much like flu PortTack Jan 2022 #16
Agreed. The best case scenatio now seems to be "endemic like the flu" Tom Rinaldo Jan 2022 #20
Okay. I read this on a thread now shut down and ...okay underpants Jan 2022 #6
Not a surprise. ananda Jan 2022 #7
Yes, I've come to that conclusion awhile back PatSeg Jan 2022 #9
I did too...in fact if everyone had been vaccinated, we would be further along. Demsrule86 Jan 2022 #13
I agree PatSeg Jan 2022 #19
As reputable as they may be... druidity33 Jan 2022 #8
It is based on science...and is much more than speculation. I think that is true too. Demsrule86 Jan 2022 #14
I am in favor of science... druidity33 Jan 2022 #24
When the virus finally does reach endemic status, it may do so ... dawg Jan 2022 #11
The fatalities are becaue people have not been vaccinated...it is much lower for other...can't Demsrule86 Jan 2022 #15
Agreed. I doubt the carefree social 2019 will ever be 100% back JanMichael Jan 2022 #18
I think it will be for the vaxed, even my parents got covid and said it was like a mild cold vs ... uponit7771 Jan 2022 #22
Let's hope so. But I doubt it. JanMichael Jan 2022 #23
It ain't over til it's over. Tommymac Jan 2022 #12
I think so too. We have both natural and man-made defenses for it now. Wingus Dingus Jan 2022 #17
Obviously not taking into account the Omega variant and the dreaded JCMach1 Jan 2022 #21

dweller

(23,651 posts)
5. Well, this is heartening
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 11:49 AM
Jan 2022

“ The era of extraordinary measures by government and societies to control SARS-CoV-2 transmission will be over. ”
🤔

✌🏻

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
10. Overall, yes, but not completely
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 12:15 PM
Jan 2022

Wars end when one side wins, not just if your side wins. Covid may well mostly burn itself out, like a forest fire that consumes most of the available dry fuel - what with increasing vaccinations and increasing acquired immunity in the population at large. That will be a good reason to end extraordinary control measures. But they could also end if and when it is determined that the effectiveness of those control measures has decreased, largely because of the hyper infectious nature of Omicron, to the point where the remaining positive benefits of those control measures are more than offset by the cost to society of maintaining them. An example of that might be school closures, which negatively effect the mental health and development of children. School closures obviously reduce the spread of Covid, but to what extent and at what cost?

I think what we once all, at least secretly, hoped for was to control Covid the way we do the Measles and other such diseases Realistically it quickly became unlikely that we could eradicate Covid, but I hoped we could make it relatively rare or at least uncommon. That seems unlikely now, and the cessation of extraordinary efforts to control Covid partially would be a concession that we now have to live with it because we failed to beat it into submission. It feels almost like a war that neither side decisively wins. With the tools and awareness that we have gained we are at, or soon will be, a point where we can realistically manage the negative effects of Covid on public health and our health care systems. But the disease seems to have secured a solid foothold in humanity as a host, at a continuing cost to us.

PortTack

(32,789 posts)
16. I don't think they're talking about eradication, rather that it will become endemic, much like flu
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 12:34 PM
Jan 2022

That it will continue to require seasonal vaccinations

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
20. Agreed. The best case scenatio now seems to be "endemic like the flu"
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 12:52 PM
Jan 2022

No one seems to think there's a chance Covid could became a less present everyday threat (milder though it may now become relative to the initial strain) like the Mumps or Measles.

underpants

(182,868 posts)
6. Okay. I read this on a thread now shut down and ...okay
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 11:52 AM
Jan 2022

I guess they know what they are talking about.

PatSeg

(47,573 posts)
9. Yes, I've come to that conclusion awhile back
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 12:06 PM
Jan 2022

when the highly contagious omicron variant appeared to have much milder symptoms. I think now it will be something that will be with us indefinitely, much like the common cold and the flu.

Demsrule86

(68,643 posts)
13. I did too...in fact if everyone had been vaccinated, we would be further along.
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 12:31 PM
Jan 2022

I think that caused a delay.

PatSeg

(47,573 posts)
19. I agree
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 12:50 PM
Jan 2022

The stubbornness of a large segment of the population has hindered our progress to a great degree. Obviously, there is no magic solution and we have been navigating in uncharted territory in many respects, but we could have done so much better if more people understood how serious the virus is.

druidity33

(6,446 posts)
8. As reputable as they may be...
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 12:02 PM
Jan 2022

they can't possibly know that. They are betting on the more likely scenario. Notice i say more likely, not most likely. This is informed speculation... but speculation nonetheless. Personally, i think it may be irresponsible on the Lancet's part to say this with seeming assurance.



Demsrule86

(68,643 posts)
14. It is based on science...and is much more than speculation. I think that is true too.
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 12:33 PM
Jan 2022

In South Africa, the numbers are way down. We are starting to see it lower here in Ohio too

druidity33

(6,446 posts)
24. I am in favor of science...
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 01:50 PM
Jan 2022

i am vaccinated and boosted. But science still speculates. The complaint i had about the Lancet article is that it is still just hypothesis at this point... ie. speculation. I just think Covid has shown us how unpredictable viral mutations can become. And even though there may only be a 10% (or whatever % you want to ascribe) chance of the virus evading all our efforts and immunities, it's still enough for me to think they shouldn't be saying "the pandemic is over". Also, when someone tells me something is "based on science", i tend to look at it like i might a movie that is "based on a true story".



dawg

(10,624 posts)
11. When the virus finally does reach endemic status, it may do so ...
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 12:28 PM
Jan 2022

at an ongoing level of death and suffering that people aren't generally anticipating.

Imagine the seasonal flu, only with four to ten times the fatalities, peaking multiple times a year instead of just in the Winter.

This thing might be so severe as an endemic virus that our lives will never be fully the same ever again. I hope that isn't the case, but right now I don't see any reason why it might not be so.


Demsrule86

(68,643 posts)
15. The fatalities are becaue people have not been vaccinated...it is much lower for other...can't
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 12:34 PM
Jan 2022

fix stupid.

JanMichael

(24,890 posts)
18. Agreed. I doubt the carefree social 2019 will ever be 100% back
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 12:50 PM
Jan 2022

Things will get better but COVID and other contagions that disrupt life are here to stay.

Endemic doesn't mean eradication and viruses don't always get weaker. Rabies and Polio are viral diseases and they have never become friendly to have. Mass vaccination has mostly eradicated both in humans with periodic scares. Neither are as contagious as covid.

Measles is generally considered the most contagious but COVID and especially Omicron is possibly faster spreading which is mind boggling.

I think by this summer and especially in 2023 it will be similar to your theory. A new annual sickness that is typically more fatal than the flu which will still be lurking around

Stay vaccinated and keep masks either on or handy for spikes.

uponit7771

(90,359 posts)
22. I think it will be for the vaxed, even my parents got covid and said it was like a mild cold vs ...
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 01:23 PM
Jan 2022

... some ass kicking flu.

No one I know who's vaxed and had CV don't think symptoms were more than a cold

JanMichael

(24,890 posts)
23. Let's hope so. But I doubt it.
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 01:36 PM
Jan 2022

Covid is and will likely remain less predictable (in who it hits and how bad and what it hurts internally) than the flu so anecdotal cases of vaccinated mild symptoms now don't translate for me to 2023.

I have had the flu vaccine annually since 2014 or so and not gotten sick once. But it still kills 25 to 80k a year and puts a decent number in hospital.

Covid just pancakes a slightly worse icing on top of annual flu and we have zero idea of what new varieties will do.

But sure it will be like a common cold with vaccinated people maybe. And we will still get hospital surges which can impact everyone due to the un or lightly vaccinated population.

So a return to 2019 for the World is not likely possible unless one was a mild introvert in 2019. Then I guess it might.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
12. It ain't over til it's over.
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 12:30 PM
Jan 2022

Sorry, nice reasoning etc. But I disagree with the philosophical basis of the article.

Too early to be spinning this way.

Too many people are still dying - not just in US but globally.

And the Global situation is not discussed enough in this country...of coarse.

Wingus Dingus

(8,059 posts)
17. I think so too. We have both natural and man-made defenses for it now.
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 12:35 PM
Jan 2022

It really will be "just the flu", like all the idiot Covid deniers said for the last two years. Just had to evolve, become endemic, and take out a lot of people first.

JCMach1

(27,572 posts)
21. Obviously not taking into account the Omega variant and the dreaded
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 01:07 PM
Jan 2022

Bambi Variant that comes back to us from all of the infected deer. (Sarcasm intended)...

Honestly, this OP take is almost as bad as all the doom prognostication.

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