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I'm hearing the tomahawk chop (Original Post) Tribetime Jan 2022 OP
I know, and I HATE IT. 🤬 🤬 🤬 a kennedy Jan 2022 #1
me too Demovictory9 Jan 2022 #23
They do it in Buffalo too. Can't understand why. MANative Jan 2022 #2
Wow I never heard that in Buffalo but Buffalo's been through Tribetime Jan 2022 #4
Uh.... no they don't tenderfoot Jan 2022 #8
When they played the Pats in Dec and again in the wild card game MANative Jan 2022 #20
Video please tenderfoot Jan 2022 #25
Really?? Have no idea how I'd isolate that and post it MANative Jan 2022 #27
I don't tenderfoot Jan 2022 #28
I hate it too MuseRider Jan 2022 #3
Well I'm in Cleveland and the Indians change their names Tribetime Jan 2022 #6
Hold on. DURHAM D Jan 2022 #5
Funny Diamond_Dog Jan 2022 #7
My sole reason to root against Kansas City CanonRay Jan 2022 #9
What a game 13 seconds left Tribetime Jan 2022 #10
All four games this weekend were awesome CanonRay Jan 2022 #11
This is the only game I watched I've been disappointed in football this year Tribetime Jan 2022 #12
Glad to hear it! USALiberal Jan 2022 #24
They can still be KC Chiefs if.... mentalsolstice Jan 2022 #13
I'm not qualified to have an opinion on it Tribetime Jan 2022 #14
Yes, you definitely deserve to have an opinion on the issue. mentalsolstice Jan 2022 #22
Proud alum of FSU here. The Seminole Tribe of Florida collaborates with FSU. OrlandoDem2 Jan 2022 #21
and the tomahawk chop? -(nt)- stopdiggin Jan 2022 #29
Seminole fans belt out the Seminole Warchant loud and proud. If the Tribe OrlandoDem2 Jan 2022 #32
Yeah I'm aware that the Seminoles have an agreement with FSU mentalsolstice Jan 2022 #30
I hope I did not jinx Buffalo I am from Cleveland you know Tribetime Jan 2022 #15
I'm a Browns fan Deuxcents Jan 2022 #18
It's really loud now. egduj Jan 2022 #16
That was quite a game jcgoldie Jan 2022 #17
Yea Chiefs! Hangingon Jan 2022 #19
yea baby demtenjeep Jan 2022 #31
Insane Game !! uponit7771 Jan 2022 #26

Tribetime

(4,699 posts)
4. Wow I never heard that in Buffalo but Buffalo's been through
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 10:10 PM
Jan 2022

Heart aches in the Super Bowl and Cleveland's been the same way so I guess I'm rooting for buffalo who won the Super Bowl

MANative

(4,112 posts)
20. When they played the Pats in Dec and again in the wild card game
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 11:05 PM
Jan 2022

Couldn't understand why. Had an extended conversation with my husband about it while we watched.

MuseRider

(34,112 posts)
3. I hate it too
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 10:09 PM
Jan 2022

but as my son just said, consider that the stadium is mostly filled with people from Independence Mo (his words not mine) and other areas like that and the Chiefs can change their name and ask fans not to do it but you will never stop those people from doing it if they want to and they want to.

Tribetime

(4,699 posts)
6. Well I'm in Cleveland and the Indians change their names
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 10:13 PM
Jan 2022

And I never really heard the Indians do the tomahawk chop

DURHAM D

(32,611 posts)
5. Hold on.
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 10:10 PM
Jan 2022

One of the Bills defensive players made a tackle and then taunted the player he tackled with the chop while he was on the ground.

A player using it is way worse than some idiot in the crowd.



mentalsolstice

(4,461 posts)
13. They can still be KC Chiefs if....
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 10:45 PM
Jan 2022

They rebrand their logo and discourage fans from doing the tomahawk thing. Chiefs is a common word in our lexicon, it doesn’t just pertain to First Nations. We have CPOs in the Navy, CEOs and CFOs, in PDs and FDs, and last but not least CiC.

So I would keep the name, but throw money at rebranding and outreach. The same with the Braves. We celebrate bravery everyday. OTOH, Washington had no choice, the name was offensive. And I don’t know what to say about the FSU situation. I’m a FL native, so we often took field trips to Seminole reservations when I was in elementary school. From what I understand the Seminole tribe were enthusiastic for the team to be named after them....but I have NEVER been a FSU fan.

Just my two cents.

mentalsolstice

(4,461 posts)
22. Yes, you definitely deserve to have an opinion on the issue.
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 11:17 PM
Jan 2022

I’m just saying there’s a way for teams to own up to their past mistakes and move forward. By not giving up their names, but redirecting branding in a positive way, they may educate more than if they just changed their name with little/no explanation.

OrlandoDem2

(2,065 posts)
21. Proud alum of FSU here. The Seminole Tribe of Florida collaborates with FSU.
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 11:16 PM
Jan 2022

The Seminole Tribe of Florida helps make the outfit for Chief Osceola and crowns the homecoming chief and princess in the homecoming game. The university and the tribe have been in continual dialogue over imagery associated with the name.

stopdiggin

(11,329 posts)
29. and the tomahawk chop? -(nt)-
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 11:43 PM
Jan 2022

but I acknowledge all that you bring forward in your post is true, and should be better understood and considered.

OrlandoDem2

(2,065 posts)
32. Seminole fans belt out the Seminole Warchant loud and proud. If the Tribe
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 06:35 AM
Jan 2022

Last edited Mon Jan 24, 2022, 07:10 AM - Edit history (1)

ever has a problem with it then the university will revisit the issue. The university has always maintained that position, even to the extent that it would change its nickname if the tribe ever says it should.

mentalsolstice

(4,461 posts)
30. Yeah I'm aware that the Seminoles have an agreement with FSU
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 11:45 PM
Jan 2022

However, as a kid growing up in south FL in the 60/70s, I often felt uncomfortable visiting their reservations. It felt like a circus show, I wished they could be independent without the audience.

And sorry I couldn’t stand Bobby Bowden.

Deuxcents

(16,287 posts)
18. I'm a Browns fan
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 11:00 PM
Jan 2022

No cheesy cheerleaders..just the dawg pound . No chop, chop insensitive cheers. I’m also, again this year, disappointed. I wish they got Burrows from LSU but it’s a team I’ve been with since the Cardiac kids days w/ Bernie. I’m old..I know.

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