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Jilly_in_VA

(10,020 posts)
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 06:24 PM Jan 2022

This may be the largest case of sex abuse by a single person in the US.

This may be the largest case of sex abuse by a single person in the US. A former NFL player wants victims' stories to be heard

Throughout the bitter winter, during rain and snow, Jon Vaughn has alternated between sleeping in a tent or a campervan outside former University of Michigan President Mark Schlissel's house.

A former University of Michigan and NFL football player, Vaughn is one of more than 1,000 people --- mostly men -- who says they were abused by athletics doctor Robert Anderson, who worked for the university from 1966 to 2003 treating students across sports including football, track, and wrestling.
Anderson, who died in 2008, subjected students, 90% of whom were men, to "sexually abusive conduct" and invasive exams, including unnecessary genital and rectal examinations, according to a 2021 independent report commissioned by the university.  Many of Anderson's victims were Black -- and survivors say this has played a part in why the abuse was allowed to continue for decades.
In his roles at the university, including director of its health service, team physician for the athletic department and a clinical instructor at the university's medical school, Anderson abused men and women from different racial backgrounds, undergraduate and graduate students, student athletes -- including a two-time Super Bowl champion and former world-class wrestler -- and members of the lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and queer community, the report found.

The university missed numerous opportunities to stop him over his 37 year long career, it concluded.
This month the university announced a $490 million settlement with over a thousand victims of Anderson's alleged sexual abuse, pending approval by the Michigan Board of Regents and the claimants.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/29/sport/university-of-michigan-robert-anderson-victims-intl-spt/index.html
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"Tragic misconduct" my sainted Aunt Matilda! Willful neglect by the University of Michigan!
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This may be the largest case of sex abuse by a single person in the US. (Original Post) Jilly_in_VA Jan 2022 OP
Lotta Big Ten sex abuse scandals AZSkiffyGeek Jan 2022 #1
Yeah, and here's the thing Jilly_in_VA Jan 2022 #3
Sandusky is still alive AZSkiffyGeek Jan 2022 #5
It came to light before Paterno died Poiuyt Jan 2022 #12
Yeah, but his worship continues as before Orrex Jan 2022 #24
I think that's why Paterno had to leave before he was ready to Poiuyt Jan 2022 #26
Sandusky is still alive. underpants Jan 2022 #6
Rot in jail Jilly_in_VA Jan 2022 #7
Yep. All powerful sports programs. underpants Jan 2022 #4
Mike somebody Jilly_in_VA Jan 2022 #9
McQueary Jilly_in_VA Jan 2022 #13
Thank you underpants Jan 2022 #16
Paterno was a straight shooter. He appeared before a grand jury on this, which did not indict. empedocles Jan 2022 #10
No. underpants Jan 2022 #17
No. Even a 'win-at-all costs coach', which Paterno wasn't, empedocles Jan 2022 #20
I saw this earlier and read it as Minnesota underpants Jan 2022 #2
The president was fired for his own personal scandal caraher Jan 2022 #23
Reporting him would have blemished the school's reputation - we can't have that! Probatim Jan 2022 #8
Agreed no one gets in trouble underpants Jan 2022 #25
Wow, we thought Jerry Sandusky had a problem! FakeNoose Jan 2022 #11
The UM president, who was just fired for sexual harassment, has now been offered a teaching position MichMan Jan 2022 #14
Gym Jordan says look the other way Blue Owl Jan 2022 #15
beat me to it !! took my fun away !! ol'jock strap gym !! tax dollar's waste"R" us !! monkeyman1 Jan 2022 #21
And I thought the Catholic priests were bad, Farmer-Rick Jan 2022 #18
A plaintiff's lawyer sued the RCC, the Mormons and Oregon Public Schools shrike3 Jan 2022 #19
I have had five (so far) male acquaintances who turned out to be predators. shrike3 Jan 2022 #22
And they get themselves Jilly_in_VA Jan 2022 #27
Ohhhh, yes +1 shrike3 Jan 2022 #28

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,120 posts)
1. Lotta Big Ten sex abuse scandals
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 06:40 PM
Jan 2022

This asshole at Michigan
Nassar and the Olympic gymnastics scandal at Michigan State
Gym Jordan’s buddy at Ohio State
Sandusky at Penn State…

Jilly_in_VA

(10,020 posts)
3. Yeah, and here's the thing
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 06:46 PM
Jan 2022

except for Nassar, aren't they all dead now? Or is that a-whole Sandusky still alive in prison?

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,120 posts)
5. Sandusky is still alive
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 06:49 PM
Jan 2022

But the whole thing didn’t come to light until after JoePa died, didn’t it? I know the whole thing is wrapped up in Paterno’s legacy…

Poiuyt

(18,131 posts)
12. It came to light before Paterno died
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 07:36 PM
Jan 2022

He had to resign in shame and they took his statue down. He died shortly thereafter.

If my memory serves me correctly.

Orrex

(63,243 posts)
24. Yeah, but his worship continues as before
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 09:06 PM
Jan 2022

Sandusky was known to be "creepy" for a long time. It's unimaginable that famed micromanager Paterno was unaware of Sandusky's crimes.

Poiuyt

(18,131 posts)
26. I think that's why Paterno had to leave before he was ready to
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 10:46 PM
Jan 2022

Once it became apparent that Paterno knew what was happening, but was keeping silent, he was fired.

underpants

(182,958 posts)
4. Yep. All powerful sports programs.
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 06:49 PM
Jan 2022

This was before the transfer rules opened up. The Ohio State case was wrestlers where I’m sure you can’t leave because they can ruin you as a quitter in that hyper team oriented world. Total dedication and coaches are king.

As you know Joe Pa was more powerful than anyone at Ped State and probably bigger than the Governor. He clearly knew what Sandusky was doing. I forgot the guy’s name who exposed it but he stayed because he was a PSU guy for years. Paternities could have next to ended his career if he didn’t offer kind words had the guy left.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
10. Paterno was a straight shooter. He appeared before a grand jury on this, which did not indict.
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 07:15 PM
Jan 2022

Republicon governor, to cover up his own 'negligence' on the case, got a reliable republicon 'investigator' freeh to help cover.

I'll take King & Spalding over freeh any day.




https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2013/02/10/joe-paterno-innocent-report/?sh=497a9b6a31bc

underpants

(182,958 posts)
17. No.
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 08:06 PM
Jan 2022

Joe Pa knew what was going on. Sandusky quit but was still allowed an office for his charity for kids. Yeah that’s as creepy as it sounds. Joe knew.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
20. No. Even a 'win-at-all costs coach', which Paterno wasn't,
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 08:26 PM
Jan 2022

is not going to risk it for an assistant coach even rumored to be a liability.

Paterno immediately reported it up the chain, to the guy who got disapeared. freeh couldn't find him.

The fix was in, engineered by the 'con governor. The fix report was out quickly, shifting the burden of proof of innocence on to Paterno. Helpled by anti-gay hate groups. It was awful.

The Penn State Board over time, seemed to recognize what happened and tried to make it up to the Paterno family.

underpants

(182,958 posts)
2. I saw this earlier and read it as Minnesota
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 06:42 PM
Jan 2022

I read here that the President of the school was fired recently. I remember seeing that and thinking it was rather sudden.

Probatim

(2,549 posts)
8. Reporting him would have blemished the school's reputation - we can't have that!
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 06:57 PM
Jan 2022

In each of these instances, that's the prevailing sentiment.

It's no different than the Catholic, Jerry Falwell Jr., and dozens of mega-churches around the country. Someone very high up decides his organization's reputation is more important than the students, parishioners, or children.

And no one really ever gets into trouble.

underpants

(182,958 posts)
25. Agreed no one gets in trouble
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 09:37 PM
Jan 2022

I think the person thinks themselves even bigger than the organization.

FakeNoose

(32,833 posts)
11. Wow, we thought Jerry Sandusky had a problem!
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 07:33 PM
Jan 2022

This is unbelievable.

The fact that this guy continued for over 37 years and the UM administration looked the other way.
He died in 2008, maybe he had HIV? One wonders ....

MichMan

(12,000 posts)
14. The UM president, who was just fired for sexual harassment, has now been offered a teaching position
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 07:50 PM
Jan 2022
Fired University of Michigan President Mark Schlissel could be in an university classroom next fall, according to letters obtained by the Free Press.

It's part of a plan that would see him becoming a part of the university's faculty. The offer is outlined in letters sent to Schlissel on Thursday from the leaders of U-M's medical school and the College of Literature, Science and the Arts. It's unknown whether Schlissel has accepted the terms.

Schlissel was fired as president earlier this month after a Board of Regents investigation into a violation of the school's new supervisor relationship policy. The investigation into Schlissel is continuing, including looking at whether he misused university funds in support of his relationship with an employee.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-president-schlissel-offered-teaching-231159256.html

Farmer-Rick

(10,219 posts)
18. And I thought the Catholic priests were bad,
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 08:19 PM
Jan 2022

Then there was the filthy rich's buddy Epstein with the little girls and sex trafficking.

What is it with men in positions of power forcing kids to have sex with them? I don't understand it.

shrike3

(3,829 posts)
19. A plaintiff's lawyer sued the RCC, the Mormons and Oregon Public Schools
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 08:25 PM
Jan 2022


He said you could set your watch by their behavior. There are certain patterns that organizations engage in whether they are religious or secular. It actually made his job easier because he knew what he'd be looking for.

shrike3

(3,829 posts)
22. I have had five (so far) male acquaintances who turned out to be predators.
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 08:32 PM
Jan 2022

All were married. Four were fathers. One was a lay protestant youth minister but the others were non-religious. The one thing they had in common? They spent a lot of time around kids. One was my neighbor. He always had a lot of kids over at his house. Isn't that nice, I thought.

I could put any one of them in a crowded room and you would not pick them out. They look just like everybody else. Act like everybody else. I get a little frustrated when people talk about one type, one profession when they talk about molestation. These guys are in all walks of life. And women. Two of my relatives and one of my close friends were molested by women. A college friend was raped by her father.

A Pennsylvania professor who participated in the Pennsylvania diocesan review appeared on Maddow's show. She said most people do not understand how pervasive this is. Not just children, but also adults. People who have power over others.

Jilly_in_VA

(10,020 posts)
27. And they get themselves
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 11:54 AM
Jan 2022

into positions where they can DO this...teaching, coaching, youth ministry, etc. It's appalling. Parents, teach your children to report to you, no matter what their predator tells them.

shrike3

(3,829 posts)
28. Ohhhh, yes +1
Mon Jan 31, 2022, 11:24 AM
Jan 2022


I hate to say this, but when I hear how someone "loves" kids, I get a little queasy. I know plenty of people who work with kids would never hurt one. But I've seen it happen five times, and it wouldn't surprise me if I see it happen again in the same way. And I'm sure I will be blindsided again.

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