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Budi

(15,325 posts)
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 11:04 PM Jan 2022

"Big momentum boost for Conor Lamb campaign today at PADems Endorsement".






"Over the past several months, all 4 #PASen candidates had the chance to make their case to @PADems members about why we can win.

Today, 60% of them voted for our campaign— more than double the other candidates.

We will continue to outwork everyone in this race all year long.
"

"Big momentum boost for our campaign today at @PADems Endorsement. We got 169 votes — 60% — on the 2nd ballot.

We will keep outworking every campaign in this race, & we need your help to keep the momentum going:
"~ connor lamb
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"Big momentum boost for Conor Lamb campaign today at PADems Endorsement". (Original Post) Budi Jan 2022 OP
So 60% want to lose. Butterflylady Jan 2022 #1
No. I'd say that 60% chose Lamb because they see a win. Budi Jan 2022 #2
He will not win...we have a much better shot with Fetterman. Demsrule86 Jan 2022 #24
Lamb seems kinda like the PA version of Beto madville Jan 2022 #3
How about the fact that Fetterman has already won statewide ? JI7 Jan 2022 #6
He won his primary state wide. He won the Lieutenant Governor seat coupled with Tom Wolf... George II Jan 2022 #13
No, Lamb is nothing like Beto Sugarcoated Jan 2022 #9
Beto was closer to the center in the House madville Jan 2022 #19
So, R+2 is a "Safe Democratic House district"? brooklynite Jan 2022 #16
I'm talking about in safe districts across the entire state madville Jan 2022 #17
No.. 60% actually Want to WIN! Cha Jan 2022 #7
Won't tell you you're wrong, but how about telling us why you think you're right? George II Jan 2022 #12
This makes me smile LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2022 #4
Rt TY.. Steady On Rep Lamb! Cha Jan 2022 #8
I support Conor Lamb completely, even though I live in California! CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2022 #5
U.S. Reps. Conor Lamb and Keith Rothfus vote to extend GOP tax cuts for individuals Celerity Jan 2022 #23
Fetterman is much better. radius777 Jan 2022 #10
I'd rather our Democratic Party representatives not "call issues out plainly" by, Budi Jan 2022 #11
This JustAnotherGen Jan 2022 #14
I guess we could say the difference between Fetterman and McMaster is Fetterman didn't shoot? George II Jan 2022 #15
Fetterman's explained that, radius777 Jan 2022 #20
Explained what? It amounted to a blatant but..but..but.. Budi Jan 2022 #22
Still to this day he hasn't apologized and when he was rogue emissary Jan 2022 #33
The right - wing is hoping that keeps Fetterman off the ballot because they know he can win... Demsrule86 Jan 2022 #25
The right - wing is hoping that keeps Fetterman off the ballot because they know he can win... Demsrule86 Jan 2022 #26
Context is important Sugarcoated Jan 2022 #35
Too many people seem enamored of candidates who "talk tough" (about things they agree with) brooklynite Jan 2022 #18
Weren't you a big backer of Max Rose? radius777 Jan 2022 #21
I'm a supporter of Max because he's the kind of Democrat who can actually win the SI district. brooklynite Jan 2022 #30
Much better Dems than that can win there, radius777 Jan 2022 #31
Name a RW/Fox News narrative Max has offered. brooklynite Jan 2022 #32
I am enamered with candidates who can win...and I just don't see how a candidate who barely won Demsrule86 Jan 2022 #27
I agree, Lamb as the candidate would be a nail biter Sugarcoated Jan 2022 #34
Fetterman versus Lamb left-of-center2012 Jan 2022 #28
Fetterman Did Himself No Favors on Thursday Deep State Witch Jan 2022 #29
This is the way Fetterman dresses, it's his M.O. Sugarcoated Jan 2022 #36

madville

(7,412 posts)
3. Lamb seems kinda like the PA version of Beto
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 02:22 AM
Jan 2022

Guess the question is can he get people to turn out in safe Democratic House districts, midterm elections are tough in that regard. A young white guy doesn’t really enthuse the black vote Democrats rely on, Fetterman has that problem as well though.

JI7

(89,276 posts)
6. How about the fact that Fetterman has already won statewide ?
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 02:48 AM
Jan 2022

I know the Senate race will be tougher but he has shown he can win statewide .

George II

(67,782 posts)
13. He won his primary state wide. He won the Lieutenant Governor seat coupled with Tom Wolf...
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 08:42 AM
Jan 2022

The two run together in Pennsylvania.

Sugarcoated

(7,733 posts)
9. No, Lamb is nothing like Beto
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 03:37 AM
Jan 2022

In fact, the opposite. Very bland, uninspiring, a coservadem. Fetterman is authentic. He can relate to the working class because he lives among them and understands them and their needs, knows how to communicate with them about those issues. He also fought hard to keep the Fascist PA Republican legislature and outside Trump groups from stealing PA which made him much more well known here, the all important name recognition. And he's STILL trolling the Texas Lt Governor on Twitter

madville

(7,412 posts)
19. Beto was closer to the center in the House
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 11:40 AM
Jan 2022

Especially in his first couple of terms, had some “centrist” or conservative-leaning viewpoints.

brooklynite

(94,757 posts)
16. So, R+2 is a "Safe Democratic House district"?
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 11:28 AM
Jan 2022

Lamb defeated an incumbent Republican and has been winning in a district with a lot of Republican voters. Seems like a good formula for winning a Statewide election.

madville

(7,412 posts)
17. I'm talking about in safe districts across the entire state
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 11:34 AM
Jan 2022

People are less motivated in midterms when their specific district is “safe”. Which of those two is more likely to get voters to turn out statewide in districts were the House seat is safely in Democratic hands? Who would do better in the Philadelphia area for example and motivate voters to turn out for them?

George II

(67,782 posts)
12. Won't tell you you're wrong, but how about telling us why you think you're right?
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 08:40 AM
Jan 2022

Let's look at it with a positive view.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,726 posts)
5. I support Conor Lamb completely, even though I live in California!
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 02:27 AM
Jan 2022

He is smart, principled and a great Democrat.

Go, Conor Lamb!

Celerity

(43,579 posts)
23. U.S. Reps. Conor Lamb and Keith Rothfus vote to extend GOP tax cuts for individuals
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 01:22 PM
Jan 2022
The proposed 'Tax Reform 2.0' would overwhelmingly benefit wealthy individuals and add trillions to the national debt.

https://www.pghcitypaper.com/pittsburgh/us-reps-conor-lamb-and-keith-rothfus-vote-to-extend-gop-tax-cuts-for-individuals/Content?oid=11083357

When Republicans in Congress passed a massive tax-cut bill in 2017, it drew widespread criticism, particularly the fact that the tax cuts were permanent for corporations, but temporary for individuals.

Now with the passage of H.R. 6760, aka "Tax Reform 2.0," those temporary cuts for individuals are one step closer to becoming permanent. In addition to extending the reduced individual tax rates past 2025, the proposal would also double the Child Tax Credit and restore cuts to estate-tax filings of about 5,000 of the richest American families.

And two local representatives, U.S. Rep. Conor Lamb (D-Mount Lebanon) and Keith Rothfus (R-Sewickley), backed the bill. It passed 220-191. Lamb was one of only three Democrats to back the bill.

snip

I am sure you will be shocked to learn that one of other 2 was.......... Sinema, lololol (plus another now Senator, Jacky Rosen, and all 3 at the time were in......... (I know, another shocker, lolol).... drum roll......, the Lieberman-run, RW billionaire founded and backed Problems Solvers caucus)



Lamb voted almost 70% of the time with Trump in the 115th Congress (the one during that article) Only the Rethug fundraising and campaigning for, anti-LGBTQ, forced birther, A rated by the NRA, conservadem Henry Cuellar had a higher rate out of all Dems in Congress

radius777

(3,635 posts)
10. Fetterman is much better.
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 03:47 AM
Jan 2022

We need tougher people who can call issues out plainly, and Fetterman does that. He did a good job of standing up to the Big Lie proponents before and after the election.

I don't see how Lamb motivates the base enough to win in a swing state.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
11. I'd rather our Democratic Party representatives not "call issues out plainly" by,
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 06:52 AM
Jan 2022

..stalking down with their pick-up & a shotgun, an innocent Black man, chasing him into the next district.
There are other methods Fetterman could have used. The man he chased down did nothing wrong. This all occurred based on a suspicion.
His judgment in that situation was neither professional nor does it follow the basic rights of a civil society.

That made me sick to read of the vigilanti justice by Mr Fetterman.
Its disgusting. Imagine if a Police Officer had done that. Imagine the protests by Fetterman's own supporters. The hypocrisy reeks.
His judgement is a big concern.
#Defund Vigilanti Justice

What else do you call it.



radius777

(3,635 posts)
20. Fetterman's explained that,
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 12:41 PM
Jan 2022

and as a man of color and BLM supporter, I accept his explanation. I'm not a PA resident and don't have a vote, but if I did I would vote for Fetterman, who is a fighter and seems in tune with the base, whereas Lamb comes across as just another mealy-mouthed play it safe politician. I didn't see Lamb move a finger during the pre/post election period to counteract the GOP Big Lie machine, whereas Fetterman was out front in the media fighting back.

Who can win a media facedown with Trump/MTG/Gaetz/Tucker et al? Fetterman can do that, Lamb can't. We need Dems who can fight and control the media narratives.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
22. Explained what? It amounted to a blatant but..but..but..
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 01:06 PM
Jan 2022

Bottom line, he assumed a Black man was up to something & with his own truck & shotgun handy, tracked him into another district, which btw has No Open Carry Gun Laws. As a public servant, he should have been aware of this as he held the Black man at gunpoint.
The Black man actually had done nothing wrong.
Fetterman's lack of judgement in his presumptions, with no proof in that moment, Are a Serious Red Flag for voters & all of us.

Imagine the loud protesting if it were Connor Lamb that did that unthinkable deed instead of Fetterman.

Chased down an innocent Black man & held him at gunpoint

THESE ARE THE ONLY FACTS THAT MATTER.
The rest is called backpedaling to bury the story.

Pretty horrific thing to do to another human being Black or not.




rogue emissary

(3,148 posts)
33. Still to this day he hasn't apologized and when he was
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 03:02 PM
Jan 2022

Interviewed around the time of the incident. Said he do it again.

Demsrule86

(68,703 posts)
25. The right - wing is hoping that keeps Fetterman off the ballot because they know he can win...
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 01:37 PM
Jan 2022

I don't know if Lamb can...I live fairly close to PA...and it is a tough haul for us. I think Fetterman is a better candidate.

Demsrule86

(68,703 posts)
26. The right - wing is hoping that keeps Fetterman off the ballot because they know he can win...
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 01:40 PM
Jan 2022

I don't know if Lamb can...I live fairly close to PA...and it is a tough haul for us. I think Fetterman is a better candidate. Lamb barely won a house race in 20 when more Democrats turn out...He has never won statewide.

Sugarcoated

(7,733 posts)
35. Context is important
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 11:41 PM
Jan 2022
https://www.inquirer.com/politics/election/john-fetterman-2013-braddock-shotgun-incident-20210209.html

“I made a split-second decision to intervene for the safety and protection of my community, and intercepted the person to stop them from going any further until the first responders could arrive,” Fetterman said in the statement, noting the proximity of a nearby school and that it was not long after the 2012 Sandy Hook school shooting. “I stayed in my truck and never came in physical contact with the individual. I had my shotgun, but it was never pointed at the individual, and there wasn’t even a round chambered.”

Fetterman said race played no role in his decision to pursue Miyares. He has long said Miyares was dressed in black and wearing a face mask.

“Between the ski mask and the way this person was dressed, bundled head to toe in the dead of winter, I didn’t know what race that individual was, or even their gender,” Fetterman said Tuesday.

brooklynite

(94,757 posts)
18. Too many people seem enamored of candidates who "talk tough" (about things they agree with)
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 11:35 AM
Jan 2022

As I said in another thread, I met with him and came away with no idea of what he'd actually DO in the Senate. It great that he "supports the working class"; what does that actually mean?

radius777

(3,635 posts)
21. Weren't you a big backer of Max Rose?
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 12:48 PM
Jan 2022

Rose is the ultimate tough talker who has no coherent message, and tends to spout Fox News talking points about the left.

Fetterman is a tough talker but he's also accomplished and smart guy, who is on our side and not a sellout.

I have no idea how someone would answer what they'd 'do' in the Senate. It's a dysfunctional legislative body that is gummed up by the filibuster in most cases. It's not like being mayor or governor or president where you can control the agenda.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
31. Much better Dems than that can win there,
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 02:10 PM
Jan 2022

ie ones who don't spout RW/FoxNews narratives.

Tom Suozzi and Kathleen Rice types can win there - although centrists they don't shit on the party.

Demsrule86

(68,703 posts)
27. I am enamered with candidates who can win...and I just don't see how a candidate who barely won
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 01:42 PM
Jan 2022

a congressional seat in 20...a presidential year, will win a statewide Senate race. God knows if he is the candidate, I will do my best to help elect him, but I feel we may be looking at a lost opportunity.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
28. Fetterman versus Lamb
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 01:49 PM
Jan 2022
Comparison of how they dressed to listen to Biden's speech on infrastructure this past week in Pittsburgh.

Deep State Witch

(10,465 posts)
29. Fetterman Did Himself No Favors on Thursday
Sun Jan 30, 2022, 01:52 PM
Jan 2022

Fetterman did himself no favors on Thursday by at first skipping out on the President's pre-planned visit, then showing up wearing shorts. (In freezing weather?) I know that's on-brand for Fetterman. But, the optics of it were pretty bad. Besides, that bridge collapse was practically in his front yard. (I know. I have a friend that lives down the street from him in Braddock.) He didn't have to show up for the President looking like he'd just come from the gym. It may go over well in PA State government, but I'm guessing that people want their Senators to look more... Senatorial.

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