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Atticus

(15,124 posts)
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 08:58 AM Feb 2022

I know it's hard to be objective about tfg, but try, OK?

If you consider what be has said in the past month or so about his own political allies, the high crimes he has publicly admitted he committed and his continuing insistence that we didn't see what we saw on 1-6-21, can you come to any other conclusion other than that we are witnessing the frenzied desperation of a cornered rat in a burning building?

I sure hope I'm right.

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I know it's hard to be objective about tfg, but try, OK? (Original Post) Atticus Feb 2022 OP
Your right. And the burning building is Trump Tower. Soon to be vacated by said rat. Alexander Of Assyria Feb 2022 #1
The fury about prosecutors made me think.... viva la Feb 2022 #2
And that is why a terrified rat in a burning building wnylib Feb 2022 #23
It seems something has changed. His last love fest was nuttier than usual and now he's Vinca Feb 2022 #3
Trump has served himself on a silver platter. What counts now PufPuf23 Feb 2022 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Feb 2022 #5
You are partly right malaise Feb 2022 #6
His one option is to get GQP control of the house and senate in Nov elections. Pobeka Feb 2022 #7
His mouth is like a shovel... MiHale Feb 2022 #8
Also, that's how he scoops up buckets of fried chicken. lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #32
Eye of the beholder...looks more like a sphincter to me. allegorical oracle Feb 2022 #42
I hope you're right about the cornered rat part. sop Feb 2022 #9
What Trump is doing is trying to obstruct justice, gab13by13 Feb 2022 #10
Don't forget Maine Abu El Banat Feb 2022 #11
Yes, and it's coming soon Joinfortmill Feb 2022 #14
Putin won't want him there Wednesdays Feb 2022 #17
You are absolutely right wendyb-NC Feb 2022 #12
Yes, you can almost smell the desperation. Joinfortmill Feb 2022 #13
I predict no charges from DOJ against Trump. Voltaire2 Feb 2022 #15
I predict lots of serious charges going his way KS Toronado Feb 2022 #25
What crime would that be? Voltaire2 Feb 2022 #27
Was meant to be KS Toronado Feb 2022 #37
All experience is preceded by mind vlyons Feb 2022 #16
First, we saw the droppings in the cabinet under the sink and we asked, "what is that?" jaxexpat Feb 2022 #18
I think all of us are objective about tfg. We are in disagreement about our expectations Scrivener7 Feb 2022 #19
I will refrain from giving my opinion until I see his pasty orange ass in the hot seat. cayugafalls Feb 2022 #20
I can see it that way, and I hope you're right. liberalla Feb 2022 #21
It is all falling apart for this turd. The Jungle 1 Feb 2022 #22
I hope you are right JustAnotherGen Feb 2022 #24
So they will give him warning about upcoming indictments, greymattermom Feb 2022 #26
I think what we're seeing is tRump acting the way he has always acted. Only this time Grammy23 Feb 2022 #28
I don't give a damn if he gets indicted...he can be sued into bankruptcy and forced to Demsrule86 Feb 2022 #44
Perfect! He can smell his own ass frying. pandr32 Feb 2022 #29
The walls are closing on TGG LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2022 #30
Sometimes the rat burns his own building and takes everyone with him. keithbvadu2 Feb 2022 #31
Trump does not have a big enough following to do much damage IMHO. Consider Lindsey Graham Demsrule86 Feb 2022 #43
No. Because Trump's ego has no match. hamsterjill Feb 2022 #33
You may be right, but I very much hope you're not. 😕 Atticus Feb 2022 #34
I think Trump's ego hides a deep fear of inadequacy. CaptainTruth Feb 2022 #38
He's absolutely damaged. hamsterjill Feb 2022 #45
I think he's also desperate to have the power of POTUS again. CaptainTruth Feb 2022 #35
Merick Garland and the Big Nothing infullview Feb 2022 #36
Progressives need to win elections and not need footholds. And we need to get what we can and get Demsrule86 Feb 2022 #41
His best bet at this stage would be to plead insanity. Emrys Feb 2022 #39
I think you are right. Demsrule86 Feb 2022 #40

viva la

(3,315 posts)
2. The fury about prosecutors made me think....
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 09:04 AM
Feb 2022

His attorney s have told him an indictment is coming. That last rally, he pretty much called for violent reaction from his minions.

wnylib

(21,562 posts)
23. And that is why a terrified rat in a burning building
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 10:46 AM
Feb 2022

can be a very dangerous rat.

The closer we got to inauguration day following his election loss, the more frantic and dangerous he became to hold onto power via the 1/6 insurrection.

Now, the closer he is to total loss due to investigations and the charges to follow, the more dangerous he is again.

Not to mention the people ready and willing to take his place and carry on his legacy.

This is not a gloom and doom statement. It is a heads up that we are still fighting the battle for democracy and must never give up.

Vinca

(50,300 posts)
3. It seems something has changed. His last love fest was nuttier than usual and now he's
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 09:06 AM
Feb 2022

even throwing old Lindsay overboard. Cornered rat might be exactly right (apologies to rats).

PufPuf23

(8,813 posts)
4. Trump has served himself on a silver platter. What counts now
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 09:12 AM
Feb 2022

is if something is actually done to correct the nation's trajectory and put the multitude of miscreants out of any position of public responsibility permanently.

Response to Atticus (Original post)

malaise

(269,151 posts)
6. You are partly right
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 09:12 AM
Feb 2022

because the burning building is surrounded by 81,000,000 feral cats.
Jump at your peril Slobfather

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
7. His one option is to get GQP control of the house and senate in Nov elections.
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 09:14 AM
Feb 2022

And he may well succeed at that if the media keeps up with the both sides have a legitimate argument worth hearing bullshit.

sop

(10,227 posts)
9. I hope you're right about the cornered rat part.
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 09:27 AM
Feb 2022

I suspect Trump views himself as something larger and more dangerous, capable of doing a lot more damage on the way out.

gab13by13

(21,381 posts)
10. What Trump is doing is trying to obstruct justice,
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 09:31 AM
Feb 2022

By dangling pardons he is telling his Magats to not cooperate and telling his Magats that if they do acts of violence in D.C., Atlanta, and NY, he will pardon them.

His ravings also are meant to scare people like Mike Pence. If Pence flips on Trump he gives prosecutors what they need to convict, "intent." This is why Trump ranted for the 1/6 committee to investigate Pence, he was sending a message to Pence not to cooperate or else.

He mentioned 3 locations, all 3 have investigations against him going on. He wants to intimidate the prosecutors in those 3 locations with acts of violence if they proceed investigating him. The Fulton county DA had to ask the FBI for protection.

Last but not least, is DOJ listening? The select committee has done a fantastic job, but it has no power to hold Trump accountable.

Wednesdays

(17,398 posts)
17. Putin won't want him there
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 09:49 AM
Feb 2022

My guess has always been Saudi Arabia or UAE, with no extradition treaty with the USA

wendyb-NC

(3,328 posts)
12. You are absolutely right
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 09:32 AM
Feb 2022

I wish, based on his history of inciting a violent mob of his devoted, brainwashed followers to help him orchestrate a coup d'etat against our democracy, be forbidden from congregating and speaking lies and false accusations about our democracy. The 1st Amendment, nullifies any chance of such a fantasy, on my part.

His words are dangerous. He's held enough pep rallies for his ego, and every other sordid thing he is about.

KS Toronado

(17,294 posts)
25. I predict lots of serious charges going his way
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 10:48 AM
Feb 2022

Lying about being a stable genius for starters, enuf said.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
16. All experience is preceded by mind
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 09:47 AM
Feb 2022

"All experience is preceded by mind,
Led by mind,
Created by mind.
Speak or act with corrupted mind
and suffering follows,
As the wheel of the wagon follows the hoof of the ox."

"One who does evil grieves in this life,
Grieves in the next,
Grieves in both worlds.
Seeing one's own defiled acts brings grief and affliction"

--- from The Dhammapada

jaxexpat

(6,842 posts)
18. First, we saw the droppings in the cabinet under the sink and we asked, "what is that?"
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 09:56 AM
Feb 2022

Then the nocturnal squeaks and scratches and we turned over and went back to sleep.
Then the contaminated dry goods in the pantry and we thought, "it's not too much, really."
Then when unseen vermin bit our child as she slept, we resolved to get to the bottom of this...some day, soon.
Then came the moment when, upon a floor littered with withered simplicidentatal placenta and detritus, the remains of our home, we slipped and fell knocking ourselves unconscious, whereupon the hungry rodents ate through our ear canals and into our brains and there was no one left to set the traps.

Scrivener7

(50,990 posts)
19. I think all of us are objective about tfg. We are in disagreement about our expectations
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 10:18 AM
Feb 2022

of what those around him will do.

And somehow that disagreement has become a fight where people are personally insulted and combative against the opinion that he will not be indicted.

I don't think he will, but from where we sit, either option is as likely as the other, so I don't understand how this has become a fight rather than a difference of opinion.

cayugafalls

(5,641 posts)
20. I will refrain from giving my opinion until I see his pasty orange ass in the hot seat.
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 10:24 AM
Feb 2022

So far...I wait, as do we all.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
22. It is all falling apart for this turd.
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 10:37 AM
Feb 2022

His resorts are bleeding cash and he has massive legal problems. No one will lend him money. Jail will be a blessing for him. At least he will get 3 and a cot in lock up. It will be fun to see where his brats land in ten years.

JustAnotherGen

(31,856 posts)
24. I hope you are right
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 10:46 AM
Feb 2022

The only cure to MF45's behavior - is swift punishment.

45 has never been punished a single day in its life. #PoorHomeTraining

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
26. So they will give him warning about upcoming indictments,
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 10:52 AM
Feb 2022

and he will get on a private jet to the UAE? Would that be enough if he can never return, or would he be able to seek revenge from there? Would his followers sacrifice themselves and their guns in a final blaze of glory?

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
28. I think what we're seeing is tRump acting the way he has always acted. Only this time
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 11:00 AM
Feb 2022

It is on a massive scale and a lot of it in front of the camera. Behind the scenes, it is probably still vintage tRump. Lots of screaming and yelling. Throwing objects. Threats of murder and mayhem. People ducking and hiding from his wrath.

He is in a different position now but thinks his old methods will work. Threats are coming at him from all sides so he is going to double down and hope that holds off what’s coming at him.

I hope all of it fails and he does get indicted (for multiple crimes) and loses every single case. Then carted off to the pokey for the rest of his natural life. No perks. No favors. No bargains.

He is a very sick man but he knows what he is doing. So let the courts finally deal with him. And let the cold hard facts come out to inform his followers what they were following and admiring. He deserves all the ugly truth to be revealed. Now.

Next up: His criminal family. Hasten the day they fall, too.

Demsrule86

(68,632 posts)
44. I don't give a damn if he gets indicted...he can be sued into bankruptcy and forced to
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 12:18 PM
Feb 2022

pay his IRS debts as far as I am concerned. It will be hard to convict Trump anywhere. And I sure as hell don't want him exonerated. I think Garland is smart to go after Trumpsters first.

keithbvadu2

(36,869 posts)
31. Sometimes the rat burns his own building and takes everyone with him.
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 11:28 AM
Feb 2022

Sometimes the rat burns his own building and takes everyone with him.

He cares only for his own glory.

See David Koresh.

Demsrule86

(68,632 posts)
43. Trump does not have a big enough following to do much damage IMHO. Consider Lindsey Graham
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 12:15 PM
Feb 2022

and Mitch McConnell's words of late. He is on his way out.

hamsterjill

(15,223 posts)
33. No. Because Trump's ego has no match.
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 11:35 AM
Feb 2022

I don’t believe for a second that Trump expects to be indicted. He’s too sure of himself. If he is ever charged with anything (and I don’t think he’s going to be), he will be completely surprised. I do not see him sitting in Mar-A-Lago worrying about going to jail. He will expect his lawyers to keep him safe, and he may have other means (Putin) as well.

He taunts his followers on a regular basis just to see if they are still willing to die for him. Many are.

Please understand that I would love to be wrong and would love to see the surprised look on Trump’s face when the cuffs clicked. But I won’t hold my breath.

CaptainTruth

(6,599 posts)
38. I think Trump's ego hides a deep fear of inadequacy.
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 12:05 PM
Feb 2022

He's emotionally very damaged, look at how his parents treated him. I've said many times that if only Trump's daddy had loved him, we wouldn't have this delusional narcissist on our hands today.

I'm convinced he has a profound lack of self-worth, no real self confidence, & a deep fear of being inadequate, a fear of "not being good enough" that haunts him.

That's what drives his narcissism & drives his ego. They are his attempts to make up for & emotionally compensate for his lack of self worth & feelings of inadequacy, & yes he overcompensates, a lot. But the fact remains that his ego is a facade, a disguise he wears to hide his real feelings & his real fears.

Of course he made his entire career using that false facade, projecting that ego, wearing his disguise of "success" & "confidence" when there never really was any. It's all he has & when it's threatened he will cling desperately to it & do anything to defend it.

hamsterjill

(15,223 posts)
45. He's absolutely damaged.
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 12:31 PM
Feb 2022

But he’s deranged, as well. He feels that HE is most important and that HE deserves power, etc.

Had he been raised differently, he would most definitely have been a different person. But we are stuck with him as an asshole who has lived 70-plus years getting away with everything and that emboldens him to believe he will continue to do as he pleases and face mo consequences.

Lord. What I would not give to see someone - anyone - just punch him in the face. Because something like that just might surprise him and he would most likely run screaming. Of course that wouldn’t be “civil”.

Because when he’s faced with “civil” procedures, he knows he has the money and the power and the influence to keep himself safe.

Again - now and always - I would love to be wrong and would gladly eat a heaping plat of crow to see him convicted.

CaptainTruth

(6,599 posts)
35. I think he's also desperate to have the power of POTUS again.
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 11:45 AM
Feb 2022

In his mind I'm sure he thinks by being POTUS he can protect himself & shut down all the investigations into him & his companies.

Desperate people do desperate things, so we need to be prepared for him to do things that are more extreme than anything we've seen before.

Also, reading his recent lawsuits, he seems to be scraping the bottom of the barrel in terms of the attorneys he's hiring, they're pretty bad. It's pretty clear he's not going to be able to use legal means to stop anything as a private citizen, so of course he will look to illegal means. Hopefully getting himself in more trouble in the process.

infullview

(981 posts)
36. Merick Garland and the Big Nothing
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 11:46 AM
Feb 2022

How many "ducks" need to be in a row to arrest the former guy for sedition? He outright confessed and *nothing*. We are marching quickly to the mid terms, and by the time we get close to this they will say "we can't arrest him. It will look political!". This is just so much bullshit yet again. I have no faith that justice will be done - even if the Jan 6 committee yells "he's guilty!" from the mountain tops. It all comes down to whether or not the AG has the stomach for it, and I don't think he does. Let's face it, the 1% owns our government lock stock and barrel and they are not going to give the progressives any foothold EVER. kyrsten Sinema and Joe Manchin are proof of this.

Demsrule86

(68,632 posts)
41. Progressives need to win elections and not need footholds. And we need to get what we can and get
Wed Feb 2, 2022, 12:13 PM
Feb 2022

more later. I am a Progressive and want to see our policy passed. But I am a pragmatist and understand we need more Democrats...so let's get out and win hearts and minds at the grassroots level...And please consider an AOC progressive could not win a Senate seat in either Arizona or West Virginia. We need to be competitive everywhere (and should work towards that) but it is a bottom-up process and won't begin with Senate seats. Until then, I will gladly accept and work with any moderate/conservative Democrats so we have a majority.

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