Police execute another young Black man in Minneapolis (video of shooting...WARNING)

[Nevilledog]

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Police were executing No Knock warrant...person killed was not the suspect, was sleeping at relatives apartment on the couch. He had a permit for his gun

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[MerryHolidays]

1. I hope against all hope this is truly not as bad as it appears to be

If this really happened, "God bless the USA", as L. Greenwood once sang.

Heaven knows, we will need some kind of intervention if something like this is allowed to happen.

Based on this, I cannot imagine what Mr. Locke did to deserve this. I am shocked.

And, then again, I'm not shocked.

[Hoyt]

2. This local news article SAYS victim was holding a gun. If not, some policemen

are deservedly in trouble.

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2022/02/03/amir-locke-minneapolis-police-body-cam-video/

Would like to see reason for warrant too.

[Nevilledog]

3. Guy had a legal right to have that weapon

The copaganda being put out says he was pointing it, video says different.

This was a no knock warrant, which means there was no knocking on the door before they piled in.

This guy was also not the subject of the warrant.

[lostnfound]

11. I'm sure the NRA will be right on it

Not.

[Emile]

17. Does the guy have a felony record? Minnesota law says

After a criminal conviction or delinquency adjudication for a felony crime of violence, your rights to possess firearms and ammunition are permanently taken away. This means you cannot lawfully possess a firearm or ammunition for the remainder of your lifetime unless the court restores those rights.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

18. No, he does not have a record.

[Emile]

20. Okay, we got that cleared. Then yes he does have the right

to own a gun and the cop that killed him should be in trouble!

[ForgedCrank]

6. It's right there

in the video @ 00:34. He comes out from under the blanket with some huge ass pistol in his right hand.
So yea, bad move if you don't want to get shot.
On the other hand, let's discuss no-knock entry in the dead of night.
They were obviously serving a warrant. There's absolutely no reason it had to be done this way, and even though the guy appears violent (I mean, he did come out with a gun), he could have been in cuffs and alive if this sort of entry were made illegal. It is uncalled for, and a lot of people get killed because of it.

[Nevilledog]

7. He has every legal right to have that gun.

He had done nothing wrong, cops weren't even looking for him, and he'd have no reason to think the cops were the ones breaking in. Isn't that why people have home defense weapons, to protect them from intruders?

[ForgedCrank]

9. Well it doesn't matter in

that situation.
If you pull the gun out, someone is getting shot, it is almost a certainty. The blame lies on the way the warrant was executed, not the cop who pulled the trigger.
That's my entire point about these bullshit no-knock warrant raids. It doesn't matter if he was the target of the warrant or not, it boils down to the fact that he would still be alive today if this crap was illegal. This is not even close to the first time this has happened, even cops have been shot up. It's a natural response to someone busting down your door in the middle of the night. Hell, they even get the wrong damn house sometimes. It's bullshit and it needs to end. Another dead person because of no-knock entry, and the authorities who order them are responsible for this death.

[FBaggins]

12. He absolutely did something wrong

I have no idea whether he did anything illegal, but he absolutely contributed to his own demise.

Imagine a scenario without police involvement. Just some guy staying at a friend’s house. I can’t personally see sleeping in someone’s couch with a gun that close at hand, but we’ll imagine that it’s “the old west”.

Four guys in body armor break in and point guns at you and scream. It doesn’t matter whether they’re police or not… your “self defense” option is already gone. They’ve “got the drop on you”. You can’t rationally go for your gun.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

19. "Right/wrong" is pretty big talk when you're sound asleep and suddenly the room is full of

people screaming and you can't see a thing. "Rational" has little to do with it -- and that's by design.

[FBaggins]

21. If you sleep with a gun under your pillow...

... you should be aware that you're adding risk to your life.

If it were my home and a guest wanted to sleep on my sofa with a handgun that close at hand... he would have to stay somewhere else.

[uponit7771]

22. Change your cenario to the people "breaking in" knocking and getting someone at the door ...

... and that would be more parallel to what SHOULD have happened here.

I don't see were NK warrants are effective

[FBaggins]

24. I definitely agree on NK warrants

At least in most situations.

But two people can both make mistakes that contribute to a deadly result. I'm about as pro 2A as a rational person can be... but it's still not defending the police to say that if (when startled awake in the night) you come up from sleep with a gun in your hand - you life expectancy is not particularly high.

I've been startled awake by thunder, or a sick child, or my wife having a nightmare. A gun being that available would introduce a ridiculously high amount of risk.

[malaise]

15. In his own bed and his lawyer said it was a legal weapon

You are in your bed asleep - hear people breaking down your door - what would you do?

They went to the wrong place - as fucking usual.

So sick of this madness

[pfitz59]

4. How are "no-knock" warrants even legal?

Too many ways to go wrong

[WarGamer]

8. +1000 nt

[pfitz59]

5. How are "no-knock" warrants even legal?

Too many ways to go wrong

[Claire Oh Nette]

10. I think No Knock is police code

No Knock is execution.

That was flat out murder.
Unconscionable.

[Celerity]

13. NO KNOCK WARRANTS SHOULD BE ILLEGAL.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

14. Mayor Jacob Frey fucking RAN on "banning" no-knock warrants.

And under the new policy he and Arradondo announced at the end of 2020, cops are supposed to announce themselves and their purpose "before the breach." Didn't see that happen here, unsurprisingly. Oh well, those cops will get a slap on the wrist for forgetting, thanks to "reform."

What a fucking mess this all is. FTP.

[Lancero]

23. For a 'civilian', breaking and entering, followed up with murder, gets you prison.

For cops, they get desk duty for a few weeks. Or paid time off.