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Qutzupalotl

(14,311 posts)
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 01:08 AM Feb 2022

Teri Kanefeld: Indictments won't save democracy




Person: There should be indictments by now!

Me: 768 indictments so far, including Steve Bannon and a recent indictment for seditious conspiracy. . .
in an investigation that is ongoing. . .
in less than a year, during a pandemic.

Person: NONE OF THOSE COUNT.

⤵️The Trump Org, Paul Manafort, Michael Flynn, Allen Weisselberg, George Papadopoulos, Rick Gates, George Nader, Michael Cohen, Lev Parnas. . .

Two impeachments.

The Mueller team indicted or got guilty pleas from 34 people and 3 companies.

But none of those count, right?

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So you don't really mean "there have been no indictments," you mean, "I want them all in prison now and never allowed out."

That's fine, but say what you mean.

Indictment doesn't mean prison.
First, there's a trial, and the outcome is unpredictable.
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The theories I've seen that Garland is incompetent or corrupt or bribed (or worse) are all speculative.

I don't know what is happening in the DOJ and either does anyone else.

I'll wait for hard evidence.

I also think that the statement, "I want them all in prison now and never allowed out" is scary and authoritarian.

Much of the indictment hysteria (I believe) is based on the misguided idea that indictments will save democracy.

If you think that, no wonder you're panicked. . .
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What good are indictments or prison sentences if a Republican gets into the WH and pardons them all?

So, join @MichelleObama's group and become a voting squad captain: whenweallvote.org/votingsquad/

Crazy idea: It's the doomsayers and the people shouting that there has been "no accountability" who are demoralizing people.

"I won't vote for Democrats because the DOJ didn't indict enough of those criminal Republicans" is sort of twisted, right?

Now, look, I'd love for Trump to get indicted, but I don't think will end the threat of fascism. It won't solve our most serious problems which are (1) rampant disinformation and (2) the fact that so many Republicans still support Trump and Trump-like candidates.
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🔹People believe that indictments will end fascism and sweep Republicans out of office in 2022 (It won't: getting out the vote, however, might do that.)

🔹Indictments are happening . . . but not making any difference politically.


🔹So they think the problem is there haven't been enough indictments and they are not happening fast enough.

🔹They panic and spread doom FASCISM WILL FLOURISH because not enough indictments.

🔹People get mad at Democrats . . . and they rail against Democrats for not doing that THING that will finally cause support for fascism to CRATER

🔹People think Democrats are the real problem, which makes it harder to turn out votes for Democrats
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Indictments are nothing more than a formal accusation of a crime . . . trials can become media circuses and don't always come out how we want.

There is a problem with this sentence: "We need to restore Rule of Law by putting them all in prison now and keeping them there because we know they are horrible destructive people."

See the problem?
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Teri Kanefeld: Indictments won't save democracy (Original Post) Qutzupalotl Feb 2022 OP
Agree. Beat these MFers at the polls, the ultimate court. Hoyt Feb 2022 #1
Excellent post! Thanks for posting! Nt Fiendish Thingy Feb 2022 #2
This is ridiculous. These Republican officials and "lawmakers..." dchill Feb 2022 #3
She's not saying don't indict, or that it's optional. Qutzupalotl Feb 2022 #4

dchill

(38,493 posts)
3. This is ridiculous. These Republican officials and "lawmakers..."
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 02:05 AM
Feb 2022

...BROKE LAWS! Indictments and prosecutions aren't optional political maneuvers. Democracy will surely fail if these crimes are ignored - for political reasons. Ridiculous!

Qutzupalotl

(14,311 posts)
4. She's not saying don't indict, or that it's optional.
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 02:41 AM
Feb 2022

She's saying they won't be what saves democracy. Indictments are happening, and democracy is still under threat.

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