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fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 10:55 AM Feb 2022

Maddow, on her show last night, planted a crazy image in my mind.

From election day to Jan.6th; The Whitehouse was an out of control insane asylum. I am not exaggerating.

For those two months, countless crazy Whitehouse staff, countless crazy people from outside the Whitehouse, countless crazy lawyers, countless crazy Republicans across America, ran around the Whitehouse like chickens with their heads cut off, in a desperate, insane attempt to keep Trump in power. Try to picture that in your head.

They attempted crazy idea after crazy idea, no idea was too crazy.

Maddow pretty much proved Trump (With Great Intent) was personally involved trying to get countless people, multiple government agencies to commit crimes. Crimes that were designed to overturn the election, to overthrow the government of the united states.

Some people refused, like Pence and Barr. Many people did not. Many people committed crimes.

Many witnesses have come forward and testified under oath to the committee, telling them what they witnessed. Documents have been obtained to back up witnesses testimony.

I am no lawyer, but I believe when you have that type of evidence in a trial, your lawyer may tell you to make a plea deal, talk, because you are screwed.

The chances of people turning on Trump and others is very high. The chances of Garland not putting in place a special prosecutor, a special grand jury is slim to none. That would be dereliction of duty and Garland is not going to do that.

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Maddow, on her show last night, planted a crazy image in my mind. (Original Post) fightforfreedom Feb 2022 OP
DOJ needs to create a special grand jury, gab13by13 Feb 2022 #1
March 1974 was almost 2 years after Watergate. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #21
Garland needs to do this sooner rather than later. Lonestarblue Feb 2022 #27
I was struck snowybirdie Feb 2022 #2
They were probably trying to get as much money and Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #10
I believe you are correct. fightforfreedom Feb 2022 #11
Question...At what point in his 4-year-stunt did he ever do the work for the position he was given? Escurumbele Feb 2022 #20
He never did "the country's business" while POTUS. pandr32 Feb 2022 #12
He's going for the "So What?" defense. Baitball Blogger Feb 2022 #3
You might be on to something there. KS Toronado Feb 2022 #23
Not clear what you mean by "that would be a dereliction of duty"... msfiddlestix Feb 2022 #4
It would be dereliction not to vigorously prosecute, using the tools available. lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #5
totally agree with "It would be dereliction not to vigorously prosecute, using the tools available" msfiddlestix Feb 2022 #6
Yes, but skip the padding. lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #7
hee, hee.. msfiddlestix Feb 2022 #8
Too late for a special prosecutor, maybe, gab13by13 Feb 2022 #9
If he did not appoint a special prosecutor, special grand jury. fightforfreedom Feb 2022 #13
If he did not appoint a special prosecutor, special grand jury. fightforfreedom Feb 2022 #14
Is there an echo in here. fightforfreedom Feb 2022 #15
LOLOL! Greybnk48 Feb 2022 #18
FOIA request needed for official photographs of Jan. 5,6,7. NT SayItLoud Feb 2022 #16
As an offshoot of this, I suspect projection from the Trumps, as usual. Greybnk48 Feb 2022 #17
The White House was an insane asylum since trump got there. Escurumbele Feb 2022 #19
Welp, at this point I think Garland is not going to appoint a special prosecutor. maxsolomon Feb 2022 #22
I remember posting that I hope a nefarious world power doesn't make a play during this period NBachers Feb 2022 #24
In the bubble, none of this was a crime Mr. Ected Feb 2022 #25
Imagine if N Korea had made an agressive move against the US then. CaptainTruth Feb 2022 #26
And they are still doing it. Mr.Bill Feb 2022 #28
Looking forward to seeing TFG in handcuffs and Emile Feb 2022 #29

gab13by13

(21,337 posts)
1. DOJ needs to create a special grand jury,
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 11:04 AM
Feb 2022

On March 1, 1974, a grand jury in Washington, D.C., indicted several former aides of Nixon, who became known as the "Watergate Seven"—H. R. Haldeman, John Ehrlichman, John N. Mitchell, Charles Colson, Gordon C. Strachan, Robert Mardian, and Kenneth Parkinson—for conspiring to hinder the Watergate investigation.

Watergate scandal - Wikipediahttps://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Watergate_scandal

This grand jury also named Nixon as an unindicted co-conspirator, it did not indict Nixon because the special prosecutor felt he couldn't indict a sitting president.

Watergate pales in comparison to Trump's attempted coup, to his ongoing insurrection.

There is absolutely no good reason to not empanel a special grand jury. I hope that AG Garland is giving it serious consideration.

Lonestarblue

(9,988 posts)
27. Garland needs to do this sooner rather than later.
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 01:54 PM
Feb 2022

The public needs some indication that these people will be investigated and prosecuted if evidence warrants. This needs to happen soon to put Republicans on notice before the midterms that we have a DOJ willing to ignore their lies of partisanship and prosecute crimes, including election crimes. Otherwise, Republicans will steal as many races as possible to ensure they take over the House and the Senate in 2023.

snowybirdie

(5,227 posts)
2. I was struck
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 11:20 AM
Feb 2022

by POTUS doing nothing but trying to prevent his leaving the WH. I'm sure the country's business wasn't done, nor did the orange one give a darn. Who was running the store?

Irish_Dem

(47,058 posts)
10. They were probably trying to get as much money and
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 12:19 PM
Feb 2022

back door power positions as possible before they left.

So they were busy doing that.

The business of the people was never a priority for them, ever.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
11. I believe you are correct.
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 12:23 PM
Feb 2022

There is no way Trump was doing his job during those two months. Hell he didn't do his job for four years.

Escurumbele

(3,392 posts)
20. Question...At what point in his 4-year-stunt did he ever do the work for the position he was given?
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 12:42 PM
Feb 2022

trump is by far the worst president this country has and will have. Laws/rules must be changed in order to prevent another maniac from getting to the presidency, needs to happen fast because there is a line of very dangerous republican loonies waiting in line. Josh Hawley is one of them, he must be made into political history, he must be left far away from politics.

pandr32

(11,584 posts)
12. He never did "the country's business" while POTUS.
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 12:25 PM
Feb 2022

At least not this country's.
He bluffed, bragged, and blamed. There were lots of photo ops he posed for and staged. His executive time daily slots filled much of the day and now we know he had visitors in his private quarters who weren't monitored.

Baitball Blogger

(46,709 posts)
3. He's going for the "So What?" defense.
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 11:20 AM
Feb 2022

In essence, they'll acknowledge they did it but, So what? As if they were entitled to do it.

KS Toronado

(17,235 posts)
23. You might be on to something there.
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 01:19 PM
Feb 2022

Gym Jordan could get caught looking at the foldout guy in a Playgirl magazine while congress was in session,
and repugs would go "So What?", whatabout when Martin Van Buren (D) got caught doing the same thing in
the Oval Office? You guys are always pointing fingers at us, we never point fingers at you! SO WHAT!

msfiddlestix

(7,282 posts)
4. Not clear what you mean by "that would be a dereliction of duty"...
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 11:28 AM
Feb 2022

what do you mean that statement? Do you mean if Garland appointed a special prosecutor?

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
5. It would be dereliction not to vigorously prosecute, using the tools available.
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 11:35 AM
Feb 2022

I think that's what the poster is trying to say.

msfiddlestix

(7,282 posts)
6. totally agree with "It would be dereliction not to vigorously prosecute, using the tools available"
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 11:41 AM
Feb 2022


It would be disasterous for our country if he didn't, I think he should proceed quickly with whatever powers in his 'remit'.

At this juncture, if appointing a Special Prosecutor took years to proceed, then no.

That psychopath needs to be locked up in a padded cell while awaiting trial, imo.

gab13by13

(21,337 posts)
9. Too late for a special prosecutor, maybe,
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 12:04 PM
Feb 2022

not too late for a special grand jury. There is no avoiding subpoenas to a grand jury.

Greybnk48

(10,168 posts)
17. As an offshoot of this, I suspect projection from the Trumps, as usual.
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 12:34 PM
Feb 2022

I think they are trying to get OTHER, hapless people to cover up a crime the Trumps and thier insiders themselves committed involving the voting machines and hacking.

I agree that something's up and it's with the machines, but my mind took this turn based on their well worn m.o.

Tin foil hat, firmly on my head, but that's what I believe right now.

Escurumbele

(3,392 posts)
19. The White House was an insane asylum since trump got there.
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 12:38 PM
Feb 2022

We very well know he never hired "the best people", they were all insane like him.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
22. Welp, at this point I think Garland is not going to appoint a special prosecutor.
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 01:04 PM
Feb 2022

Much more "unifying" to let the 1/6 Committee report come out, then throw it all in the Memory Hole in the name of "healing".

CaptainTruth

(6,591 posts)
26. Imagine if N Korea had made an agressive move against the US then.
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 01:49 PM
Feb 2022

If an enemy knows our government is in chaos it's the perfect time to strike against our interests.

Trump left our national security vulnerable for the sake of his egotistical "election victory" fantasies.

Mr.Bill

(24,292 posts)
28. And they are still doing it.
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 01:58 PM
Feb 2022

Good thing they aren't selling loose cigarettes, the cops would have killed them

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