White men in media who shaped sexist coverage of Hillary '16 -- as she ran against a sexual predator

[Budi]

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Michael Williams
@mwill68321

She was far more qualified than most men who had preceded her. She had experience at every level of government. They were more afraid of her than of anyone I had observed in my lifetime. And they remain terrified of her still. She must have been great.

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Jeff Zucker, Matt Lauer, Charlie Rose, Mark Halperin, Glenn Thrush, Les Moonves, etc. White men in media who shaped sexist coverage of @HillaryClinton in 2016 — as she ran against a sexual predator. All subsequently connected to sexual misconduct scandals. Not a coincidence.


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MSNBC’s Chris Matthews joked about his ‘Bill Cosby Pill’ before interviewing Hillary Clinton

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Remember how the White Male Media brushed this off as 'dumb' & never spoke of it again. & buried the 1972 story by then 30 yr old Bernie Sanders.
No big deal.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2015/5/28/8682503/bernie-sanders-rape-fantasy


Still waiting for any progressive Women & orgs to speak of this, as they all watch Roe being 'burned down'
Celebrity Activist Sarandon too, stayed silent.
Where were you, Nina Turner?
One of our own was being buried under white Male Media sexism, & you said nothing.
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Especially Hillary. Did you ever see anyone so maligned?

Glad to see the Zucker fiasco being headlined anyway.

[2naSalit]

1. Definitely not a coincidence.

[CrispyQ]

2. Not a coincidence. And not a surprise. -nt

[yardwork]

3. Many DUers pointed this out at the time.

Add to this the drumbeat of lazy "go along to get along" so-called reporting that amounted to a misinformation campaign about Hillary's email server, Clinton Foundation, etc.

Laziness and jealousy. No fact checking, no sense of proportion, no investigative journalism or really any journalism at all.

[iemanja]

17. and many ridiculed it

Saying she was using the "woman card" to get elected. Then of course there was the constant barrage of claims that she was dishonest, despite fact checkers finding her the most honest of all the candidates, including in the primaries.

[LizBeth]

34. I forgot abut the whine using the "woman card". So atrocious.

[StClone]

40. Didn't all our Women Presidents use that to get elected?

[LizBeth]

45. +1

[Claire Oh Nette]

47. WOman card...

I'm beginning to think thereis no woman card, or Race card. Just White Man get out of jail free cards.

Seems to me wypipo are all about identity politics, not the Democrats.

[iluvtennis]

30. Exactly right! n/t

[highplainsdem]

4. Some men seem to find competent, intelligent women terrifying. Especially if those

men are sexual predators who typically look for naive or helpless prey and might remember encounters with competent, intelligent women that didn't go the way they'd hoped.

I'm sure HRC reminded those men of a lot of humiliating moments.

[arlyellowdog]

5. Hillary got the most votes

Reminder

[Budi]

8. Yes she did. And has been clean wiped from Media as tho none of this happened.

The White Male dominated sexism was never spoken of then nor any time after.

Every one of them carried on to run their media games, shouting 'It's Rigged!', & grow their wealth without ever being held to account.

[LizBeth]

31. That is why the womans march was so powerful, huge and world wide.

We saw it, knew it and were pissed and spoke out in the march as women did around the world. And who tried to reappropriate that march? I will always love Asley Judd.

[Budi]

36. The women's march omitted Hillary completely. Not a credit nor mention of her name

Yet they had all just watched her being dragged to the center of townsquare by the sexism & propganda of the white male dominated billion$$$ global media industry.

Human & Women's Rights on the global stage
Human Rights
Civil Rights
Children's Rights
Woman's Rights
LGBTQ Rights
HIV & her attention to finally funding for AIDS Awarness way back in the 90's.
Funding of ROE & Planned Parenthood

These are just a short list of the lifeswork & legacy of Hillary Clinton, yet the organizers of Linda Sausour's Women's March could never bring herself to speak Hillary's name, much less recognition for the mysogonistic degradation of a woman in the just recent campaign.

They ignored her while promoting themselves.

[LizBeth]

44. I sw it a little differently. The swell of anger and participation was all about what happened

to HRC. The a couple of the organizers got it into their head they were going to use that woman's anger for their gain in support of their male candidate that also used the sexism in his campaign. And I think the backlash was loud and clear. So an attempt, a coup of the march and a failed coup that well put them in their place. Then we proceeded to have the largest protest march in history, world wide.

[Budi]

62. Problem was that Sarsour used it as a political gain for her own agenda.

The truth came out when they later organized another women's march convention in Chicago.

They had support rolling in like a freight train.
Rooms & travel was booked by thousands set to attend. What blew up their agenda was when they waited to release the only keynote speaker until after all the guests had committed.

Then they revealed the Keynote speaker, to lead the women's convention, the one person who they chose to represent all the ills women had endured thru history.

When it was revealed they had selected, that icon of women's rights would be Bernie Sanders, the blowback was epic.Women knew they had been duped.
Rooms & flights were cancelled, reservations & pre-paid spots to attend were demanded reimbursement,.. women were insulted & pissed.

They blowback was great enough that Sanders was quickly replaced & he was flown off to Puerto Rico for a speech.

This event exposed the true purpose & fallacy of the Organizers of The great Women's March.
Their potentially enormous cause for good was exposed as a political dupe to elevate one to lead a demographic who had no creds to women's causes other than a 1972 essay on "Rape Fantasies."
The white elite sexist man who had just run a relentless media smear campaign against the 1st woman's rights fighter in position as President.
The campaign against the one woman who vowed to end Dark Money Citizen's United, & save Roe v Wade by seating SC noms to hold & advance fairness for women & human rights.


That was pretty much the end of Sausour & Tamika Mallory's game. Their organization fell apart.

Of all the great fighters though women's history, from legislators to Planned Parenthood, those Women leaders who had a lifetime resume of Women's causes to offer as a Keynote speaker that they could have chosen, this is who they selected.

Women said NO.

[LizBeth]

64. We realized and saw this first rally, and they got push back and did back off.

So when they went to organize the second rally, they took the bulls by the horn presenting to our face, and yes, the glorious call of outrage. But it was so clear to us because we watched them manipulate with the original march.

I am agreeing with you, but I see it slightly different. They march world wide was what we watched done to HRC. Then we watched Sanders and his people try to take ownership of it and it was not allowed, again, Ashley Judd.

But it did not even get off the ground the second time when they were in our face with it. We had their number. We were asking the questions upfront and giving an emphatic NO!

[betsuni]

65. +1

[True Blue American]

12. And now the corrupt media

Is exposed!

[certainot]

37. but there was also 20+ years of attacks from limbaugh and sons to help enable all that

and that is largely ignored, while TFG's former neighbor and golf partner led the same 1500 radio stations in excuse-making for trump

a few random samples of the limbaugh show had him saying "trump" an average of 50 times an hour while media hailed him a 'branding genius'

[Mr. Ected]

6. The sad thing is that so many people hopped on the bandwagon, even liberals

It seems like the "Hillary is damaged goods" crowd was easily manipulated by a compliant press.

We all have to be very careful to do our own research, whatever the subject, as all of us are subject to unstated and unclear agendas from most any source.

[betsuni]

23. That's what shocked me.

It's normal to hear ridiculous lies and conspiracy theories from Republicans, but when liberals started mindlessly repeating "establishment" "neoliberal" "status quo" "Wall Street," that the primary was rigged by a suddenly miraculously powerful DNC, that a former Secretary of State paid the usual rate for speeches was somehow evidence of a plot to take over the world with Goldman Sachs or whatever the hell the CT was, the constant accusations of corruption without a shred of evidence ("Enough is enough" ), that campaign contributions that all candidates receive are somehow corrupting when Democrats "take" them and they have to do everything the donor wants -- I couldn't believe so many people were that gullible. Then when you debunked the nonsense they screamed "WHY DO YOU THINK SHE'S PERFECT?" and accuse you of being paid by David Brock. It was like some kind of mass hysteria.

[Budi]

63. K & R .. Thank You!

It was THEY who were "both the same".

The oppo against HRC came in a double pronged effort & media sat right in the middle of those 2 sides, leading the campaign to destroy the Democratic Party & seat authoritarian fascism as a one Party rule.

But we knew that because She warned us all along.

[imaginary girl]

7. Worse

Worse than said nothing, in my opinion. Many of them joined in!

[Lonestarblue]

9. Republicans decided decades ago that Hillary was a bigger threat than Bill.

And they proceeded to try to destroy her, with abundant help from the media. Much of Whitewater was about damaging the Clinton name. Whitewater didn’t just focus on sex between two consenting adults. Ken Starr, and his acolyte Kavanaugh, used their power to investigate every aspect of the Clintons’ lives and then distorted and publicized anything they thought would hurt Hillary. Republicans authored dozens of books with only a nodding acquaintance to the truth, if any. Most of them were right-wing conspiracies, including how many people the Clintons had murdered, like Vince Foster.

And what did the media do to balance the scales with the truth? Nothing. Indeed, the NYT published excerpts from the trash book Clinton Cash during the 2016 election. And for years, one of their most famous writers, William Safire, rarely missed an opportunity to denigrate the Clintons, whom he considered white trash.

We need better media in this country if we are to survive.

[LizBeth]

10. Sanders contributed to it. A lesson of 2016 that as a woman I will never forget,

I will never forgive.

[Budi]

13. 👍 me too.

You think he nor any of them give 2 shits about women's devastating loss of Roe v Wade?
Nope.

[LizBeth]

16. How many times, how forefront in conversation SC and consistent constant dismissal

of women issue as we were told that really, ... Oh really, it was not all about the working white middle class men. But, lets ignore the SC.

[Budi]

19. "I'm the only thing standing between you & the apocalypse"..hrc 2016

As they drove her name & lifeswork into the ground with the bottom of their White Male dominated mysogonistic Billion $$$$ Media freshly shined shoes.

Because that's who they are.

[LizBeth]

24. Yep. And they gaslight us all the way telling us what we hear/see is not what

we are hearing and seeing. Further, when we quoted, we were constantly told, ... what he means is. No. I am going off what he says and does.

[betsuni]

18. I will never forgive either.

Never.

[LizBeth]

25. +1. With you sister.

[sheshe2]

55. Nor will I. nt

[True Blue American]

11. When Phil Donahue was fired by MSNBC

For opposing the war he said he had to have 2 Republicans on for every 1 Democrat.

It has been obvious for years the PTB all favored Republicans, look how they treat President Biden now. The great pretenders run Fox clips over and over every day favoring Trump, pretending they are shocked. They continue to spread propaganda.

And the new guy at CNN is demanding every one praise Zucker. Hire Cuomo, he was not even charged.

[Budi]

14. K & R

[I_UndergroundPanther]

56. I really liked donahue

I was ungodly pissed his show was cancelled. I watched him every time he was on. I was actually looking forward to his show.

I also miss olberman

Seems like every show I like on msnbc gets canned.

Voted for Hillary was proud of it. Put Hillary signs in my yard when I lived in the house that got defaced. Dammit. However 1 survived. Its on the wall of my artroom.

[True Blue American]

58. May I make a suggestion?

Shepherd Smith is on CNBC every evening at 7pM. I absolutely love his fact filled show presented with no bias. The rerun is 4 AM. Best show I have seen in a long time. Fox lost a treasure and CNN and MSNBC missed the boat.

Now that Zucker is gone with his Trump love they will change. Also Jim Acosta is making waves with his Saturday Sunday shows. Now, if the would just put Casey Hunt on.

[CincyDem]

15. Just finished the Janet Jackson story on AMC (highly recommended).

I haven't fully appreciated Les Moonves' role in blacklisting her from all Viacom outlets including MTV (which at the time was an influential music venue). 608 weeks later Timberlake performed at the grammy's on CBS while Jackson wasn't allowed to even sit in the audience...because nipple-gate was obviously "her fault"...not the guy who ripped her top off. uh-hun...right.

[Budi]

20. I have to see that. The reviews are damning to the industry.

The male dominated industry.

[CincyDem]

21. Absolutely. Timberlake walked like he was just a guy in the stands. She got screwed. n/t

[Claire Oh Nette]

48. Underrated song from TP

My name's Joe, I'm the CEO
Yeah I'm the man makes the big wheels roll
I'm the hand on the green-light switch
You get to be famous, I get to be rich

Go get me a kid with a good lookin' face
Bring me a kid can remember his place
Some hungry poet son-of-a-bitch
He gets to be famous, I get to be rich

Or bring me a girl
They're always the best
You put 'em on stage and you have 'em undress
Some angel whore who can learn a guitar lick
Hey! Now that's what I call music!

Well they'll come lookin' for money when the public gets bored
But we'll fight 'em with lawyers they could never afford
Yeah I'll make her look like a spoiled little bitch
She gets to be famous, I get to be rich..."



Holds true for more than record companies.

[Beaverhausen]

22. Beside the point, but Hillary's Podcast "You and Me Both" is wonderful

We get to hear what a warm, funny, and smart person she really is.

The third season just started a few weeks ago.

[Budi]

27. Yes it is! Thanks for bringing her podcast to the convo.

Hillary's Podcast "You and Me Both"

Turns out she's funny, warm, & far more 'likeable' (loveable) than MSM re-imaged her to be.

💙🍃

[nolabear]

29. I need to listen to that. I need sustenance.

[iluvtennis]

32. Me too. Just added it to my podcast list. n/t

[dlk]

26. Birds of a feather...

Sexual predators stick together, in this case, to the detriment of our entire country.

[nolabear]

28. As Stephanie Miller often says, I will die mad.

What they did to the woman who should have sailed through that election was unconscionable. I always had the impression she was as shocked by what she saw as we were, not because she thought she was a shoo-in, but because she thought we were better.

I hope I live to see us get better. 😢

[W_HAMILTON]

33. Fuck anyone and everyone that ever unfairly maligned this woman.

It was a decades-long smear campaign, the likes we've never seen before.

Oh, and a special shout out "fuck you" to those on the left that willingly chose to amplify rightwing smears just for political expediency. You cost us progressives -- REAL progressives -- the presidency, the Supreme Court for a generation, and damn near our entire democracy (and still may yet do so).

[LizBeth]

35. +1

[NBachers]

38. Let's not forget Trump stalking her on the debate stage, and the moderators doing nothing.

[Cha]

43. GD Fascist Psychotic Predator!

[Gaugamela]

39. If you read through the Sanders piece, while badly written

(and I'll admit it's embarrassingly bad), is a critique of unexamined societal gender roles and the devastating effects of entrenched patriarchal attitudes on contemporary culture and human relations. For 1972 this is a pretty radical feminist statement, except that Sanders expands the critique to describe the disastrous effects of patriarchy and sexism on men as well as women. This is a theme I see expressed frequently these days in pieces on toxic masculinity in left leaning journalism. I suspect that Sanders sees both pornography and the degenerate male fantasies it induces as the inevitable result of unbridled capitalism and class repression, i.e., slavishness vs. pigness. (He could have used "piggishness" for parallel construction — maybe he's trying to invoke Animal Farm? I don't know — again, bad writing). I also suspect that the awkward tone of the piece comes from Sanders — 30 years old at the time — trying to swim in the liberated youth culture of the 60s and (newly) frank and open discussion of sexual matters of the time.

IMHO, this piece expresses a point of view closer to that of feminist writers of the time than any of the sexual predators listed in the OP.

[LizBeth]

46. While he told us his male vision of what women fantasized about? Being raped by many.

Geez, someone rehashing this crap. And I suppose next we will hear he is more a feminist leader than HRC and Steinmen wrapped in one. This was the very gaslighting women in 2016 endured.

[Gaugamela]

49. I agree, badly written, and he definitely overstepped the boundary about women's

fantasies, but anyone can see the larger point he is making. And no, he is not more feminist than Steinem or Clinton. I said he was more in line with Steinem than the sexual predators in the OP.

How did Sanders gaslight women in 2016?

[betsuni]

50. Like how getting arrested for protesting once in college, going to a MLK speech once, and endorsing

Jesse Jackson for president that one time makes one a lifelong champion for civil rights.

[LizBeth]

51. Yes. Why yes. Just like that.

[LizBeth]

52. Pushing women aside, out of the way or sticking hand in their face to shut them up.

sexism at the very core of his org and him ignoring the abuse and harassment allegations. I mean, just reflecting again, the list will go on and on. Any yet the question remains from the poster, how, just how did he gaslight.

[betsuni]

53. "It is not good enough for someone to say, 'I'm a woman! Vote for me!' No, that's not good enough."

[LizBeth]

54. and on and on and on. I walked away from the computer and they just kept on

hitting recall. I do not forgive or forget.

[betsuni]

60. And saying Hillary wasn't qualified because of corruption.

Enough is enough.

[Cha]

41. Damn good observation.. Rt

TY.. excellent OP, Budi!

Damn Twilight Zone!

[Claire Oh Nette]

42. White men expected her to run in 2008

They had misogyny all lined up and ready to go when Obama surprised the nation. Of course, they had zero problem switching from misogyny to racism. When Hillary finally ran, there was 8 years of hatred for her just waiting to be released.

She won.
3.5 million more votes.
Who doesn't think the GOP cheated in '16 in WI, PA, and MI?

The GOP hates everyone not exactly like them.
Even Barry Goldwater could see what was coming:

'Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise."

They view women as vessels and less than. They can't even hide it anymore.

[ismnotwasm]

57. I'm still pissed

Fucking disgusting

[UTUSN]

61. K&R