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Nevilledog

(51,104 posts)
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 04:49 PM Feb 2022

Pence: "President trump said I had the right to overturn the election. President trump is wrong."



Tweet text:

Brett Pransky
@BrettPransky
This is called a campaign launch.

Mueller, She Wrote
@MuellerSheWrote
NOW: Former VP Pence: "President trump said I had the right to overturn the election. President trump is wrong."
1:46 PM · Feb 4, 2022





https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mike-pence-donald-trump-overturn-election_n_61fc7a08e4b0b69cfe8c743a



ORLANDO, Fla. — Former Vice President Mike Pence on Friday gave his strongest defense to date of his sabotage of his ex-boss’s scheme to overturn the 2020 election and remain in power despite losing.

“This week, our former president said I had the right to ‘overturn the election.’ President Trump is wrong. I had no right to overturn the election. The presidency belongs to the American people, and the American people alone,” he told an audience of several hundred. “Under the Constitution, I had no right to change the outcome of our election. And Kamala Harris will have no right to overturn the election when we beat them in 2024.”

His remarks were a pointed rebuttal of Donald Trump’s latest round of lies that Pence had the authority, on his own, to disregard Democrat Joe Biden’s 306-232 Electoral College win and, instead, install Trump for a second term.

In a statement on Sunday, Trump claimed that congressional efforts to reform the 1887 Electoral Count Act to clarify the role of the vice president proved that Pence “could have overturned the election,” had he wanted to.

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Pence: "President trump said I had the right to overturn the election. President trump is wrong." (Original Post) Nevilledog Feb 2022 OP
He's a vile flip flopper dwayneb Feb 2022 #1
He sure is, dwayne Leghorn21 Feb 2022 #12
Well, just this one time ... the man is right (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Feb 2022 #2
This was a Federalist Society speech to boot Nevilledog Feb 2022 #4
Very interesting... ColinC Feb 2022 #9
his sabotage? malaise Feb 2022 #3
Sabotage and rebut. Nevilledog Feb 2022 #8
Agree malaise Feb 2022 #15
Good on him. ColinC Feb 2022 #5
Pence is a sick piece of shit repuke Skittles Feb 2022 #31
He could have tried and it would have fucked a whole lot of things up ColinC Feb 2022 #32
Pence knew how ludicrous the idea was Skittles Feb 2022 #33
Imagine what would have happened if we had somebody like giuliani ColinC Feb 2022 #34
Well, so much for MyOwnPeace Feb 2022 #6
Can he testify to that under oath? tinrobot Feb 2022 #7
He showed no heroism doing and being covered by the Constitution. & he appeals to NOBODY if he runs, UTUSN Feb 2022 #10
He must know the shit is about to hit the fan! Emile Feb 2022 #11
Exactly what I bet is happening, Emile -- his COS Marc Short and VP counsel Greg Jacob and Keith Leghorn21 Feb 2022 #14
Pence's staff has been speaking to the Jan 6th Committee the last couple weeks. Nevilledog Feb 2022 #16
The ship of fools is leaking! skip fox Feb 2022 #13
Last week some of us suggested that Pence put up or shut up malaise Feb 2022 #17
And the rats with the keenest sense of self-preservation are beginning to desert that ship. LaMouffette Feb 2022 #24
Whatever... this is why many Americans need a much better education in American Government... AntiFascist Feb 2022 #18
The new GOP frontrunner? world wide wally Feb 2022 #19
In his dreams. wnylib Feb 2022 #27
Nope. ancianita Feb 2022 #30
If that were true, why didn't Clinton's Vice President overturn his election. Historic NY Feb 2022 #20
Get more bodyguards. BeckyDem Feb 2022 #21
"Pence Clears Bar That Couldn't Be Any Lower" dchill Feb 2022 #22
"And Kamala Harris will have no right to overturn the election when we beat them in 2024." ? Poiuyt Feb 2022 #23
If Pence is not speaking to the Jan 6 Comte, he's only doing the bare minimum. Not enough. ancianita Feb 2022 #25
No I disagree, he said it and he knows he's gonna get hell for it. nt USALiberal Feb 2022 #26
What part do you disagree with? I think we agree. That "he said it" is no more reason than the base ancianita Feb 2022 #29
Water is wet. Now praise me. Solly Mack Feb 2022 #28

dwayneb

(768 posts)
1. He's a vile flip flopper
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 04:53 PM
Feb 2022

Just saw him make some statement about how the Republicans successfully defended against the Democrat's effort to "nationalize the election". This guy is as much a Nazi as Trump, his style and strategy is just different, that's all.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
12. He sure is, dwayne
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 05:01 PM
Feb 2022

He's the ex-vice-presidential version of Rod Rosenstein, Lindsay Graham and Ted Cruz...

NOBODY

seriously,

NOBODY CAN STAND HIM

Nevilledog

(51,104 posts)
4. This was a Federalist Society speech to boot
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 04:55 PM
Feb 2022


Tweet text:

Alex Mallin
@alex_mallin
NEW - Pence in Federalist Society speech: "President Trump is wrong. I had no right to overturn the election... Frankly there is no idea more un-American than the notion that any one person could choose the American President."
1:42 PM · Feb 4, 2022


I think Trump is speaking there tonight.

🍿

ColinC

(8,294 posts)
5. Good on him.
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 04:56 PM
Feb 2022

He has always struck me as mostly a (small D) democrat out of that horrible bunch. There is a pretty nasty battle for the heart of the republican party between small d democrats and authoritarians. So far the latter is well ahead in the fight.

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
31. Pence is a sick piece of shit repuke
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 12:12 AM
Feb 2022

he enabled Trump for years, and then did the only thing he COULD do on Jan 6 because even a fucking moron could see IT WAS NEVER GOING TO WORK

ColinC

(8,294 posts)
32. He could have tried and it would have fucked a whole lot of things up
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 12:43 AM
Feb 2022

Now he might be the most credible witness against Trump as their party struggles to keep or banish authoritarianism. Yes. Fuck them all. He is as bad as Liz Cheney and Adam kinzinger but not much worse.

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
33. Pence knew how ludicrous the idea was
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 08:23 PM
Feb 2022

can you even imagine someone losing both the Electoral College and popular vote just being "re-installed" on Jan 6

it was NEVER going to work

at least THIS TIME

ColinC

(8,294 posts)
34. Imagine what would have happened if we had somebody like giuliani
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 10:57 PM
Feb 2022

In his place.... But just the fact it got to that point is the responsibility of nearly every single republican that enabled and legitimized Trump the entire way through.

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
6. Well, so much for
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 04:56 PM
Feb 2022

Friday afternoon news releases being boring!!!


COUNTDOWN FOR EXPLOSION FROM MERDE-A-LARDO in THREE -- TWO -- ONE --

UTUSN

(70,695 posts)
10. He showed no heroism doing and being covered by the Constitution. & he appeals to NOBODY if he runs,
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 05:01 PM
Feb 2022

just shows his desperation to stay in a government job and his lack of insight about his chances and abilities.

He stuck with Drumpf, and still would if the demands weren't so blatant.






Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
14. Exactly what I bet is happening, Emile -- his COS Marc Short and VP counsel Greg Jacob and Keith
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 05:07 PM
Feb 2022

Kellogg, Pence's NatSec advisor, have all been having cozy chats with the Jan 6 Committee...

I am simply DELIGHTED to see this lumpy piece of namby-pamby crybaby speak up a little, because YEP, shit's fixin to RAIN DOWN on him, he best step lively now!!

malaise

(268,998 posts)
17. Last week some of us suggested that Pence put up or shut up
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 05:11 PM
Feb 2022

I detest mother's boy, but finally he put up!
Saying that he had no power to overthrow the election and that the Slobfatherwas wrong was way more than I expected. PHEW!

Let them devour one another now.

AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
18. Whatever... this is why many Americans need a much better education in American Government...
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 05:13 PM
Feb 2022

the dumbshits who think he should have overturned the election don't understand our democracy and how it works.

wnylib

(21,466 posts)
27. In his dreams.
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 07:29 PM
Feb 2022

He did not follow orders on Jan 6 because he knew the coup could not succeed and did not want to face the legal consequences of being part of it.

He probably does hope to run for president, but neither party would vote for him. Dems for sure won't vote for Trump's VP. Republicans consider him a traitor to Trump.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
20. If that were true, why didn't Clinton's Vice President overturn his election.
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 06:21 PM
Feb 2022
Clearly the voter margin was smaller that trumps miniscule 7 million deficit.

Poiuyt

(18,123 posts)
23. "And Kamala Harris will have no right to overturn the election when we beat them in 2024." ?
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 07:16 PM
Feb 2022

Does he think he'll still be on the ticket? Do you have to be delusional to be a Republican?

ancianita

(36,055 posts)
25. If Pence is not speaking to the Jan 6 Comte, he's only doing the bare minimum. Not enough.
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 07:17 PM
Feb 2022

He'll be primaried out for prez because the base don't want him. He's not helping one damn bit, simply inching away from trumpcult like Romney, but not enough to move the GOP.

ancianita

(36,055 posts)
29. What part do you disagree with? I think we agree. That "he said it" is no more reason than the base
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 09:22 PM
Feb 2022

had to hate him for the whole last year. He was speaking to the Federalist Society, not to trumpcult.
But Trump now has his excuse to cast Pence out of his GOP, and we know the base have already done that, anyway.

If Pence really wants to be "American" about the whole Jan 6 coup, he has to reject the whole Big Lie and everything with it, as Jamie Raskin said tonight on Chris Hayes' show. He hasn't. What he said wasn't enough to put him anywhere near Romney, Kinzinger or Cheney.

Remember that Trump's got his hit list. Now Pence is on it.

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