Pence says he followed the Constitution on Jan 6. He is either

[applegrove]

quitting politics or running for President. "I had no right to overturn the election". "Trump is wrong". He was speaking to the Federalist Society. CNN Le Divorce!!!!

But will he testify at the Jan 6 Committee?

[JohnSJ]

1. I think he plans to run

[applegrove]

3. So do I. So now there are 3 Republicans against Trump.

[Backseat Driver]

28. I think his wife intends for him to run, and he does

what ambitious mama says or else!

[JohnSJ]

32. Lol

[Walleye]

2. Pence has presidential ambitions. He's only fooling himself

[SoCalDavidS]

14. He's Doing It For The Free Money Via Campaign Contributions

He'll get enough support to be able to stay in the race for a little while, and who wouldn't want recognition, and the ability to travel around the country on sort of a free vacation for a few months?

He might be stupid enough to believe he has a chance at winning the nomination, but that's pretty ridiculous to any observer.

[Walleye]

17. Sad. But I think that is the correct assessment of his ambitions

There will be nothing left for him after this but to sink into anonymity

[Mr.Bill]

21. It's the Sarah Palin school of campainging.

She showed everyone that you can make millions of dollars losing an election. What other income source has she had since she resigned as governor?

[SoCalDavidS]

43. Sarah Palin Was A Rising Star

She was a Nobody that became a Somebody.

Pence was a Somebody who became a Nobody.

2024 is probably his last hurrah. My guess is he'll write a book, and then we'll never hear from him again.

[Lovie777]

4. It took over a year for this . . .

[FarPoint]

5. He is a complete coward....

He is also terrified of tRump.

[UTUSN]

6. He showed no heroism doing and being covered by the Constitution. & he appeals to NOBODY if he runs,

just shows his desperation to stay in a government job and his lack of insight about his chances and abilities.

He stuck with Drumpf, and still would if the demands weren't so blatant.

[ificandream]

22. I disagree about the heroism.

Remember the idiots who stormed the Capitol were yelling "Hang Mike Pence." If that doesn't frighten you nothing will. I agree that Pence as a Vice President before Jan. 6 was a turd. But on Jan. 6, given all that happened, he showed he had at least a little character. First time in over four years that we saw it, but we did.

[UTUSN]

30. We can disagree and be done, but I'll be even clear(er) here: Anybody with high school Civics would

*know* that the VP's role is indisputably defined in this matter, such that it leaves NO ROOM for doing otherwise and abiding by the limits is not "heroism." In a way, too, especially for a characterless type like PENCE, it can be a cynical COVER for cowardice, like, Well can't do whatever because the Constitution says so.

He did just about everything else for Drumpf, probably even more than we know, many of which times when it really *would* have been principled and "heroic" NOT to and without the cover of defined limits.

Who says the traitor mob didn't frighten or infuriate me to fight them back?

No, "we" didn't see him. Despite a timid little word today, he doesn't deeply denounce Drumpf and would go running back if given the chance.

**** Here's a thought: How about his testifying for the Committee in front of the cameras, hmmm?

I've said all I've got to say about this. To be clear: NOTHING more here.

[happybird]

50. +1

[ColinC]

7. It'll be nice to see the next gop candidate not be a complete authoritarian

even if he is a religious extremist nutcase.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

8. "President Trump is wrong. I had no right to overturn the election," said a defiant Pence

Link to tweet

[applegrove]

9. Thanks.

[dalton99a]

33. +1.

[BaronChocula]

10. Sen. Loser Graham has also said Trump is wrong...

for what that's worth. From other reports, it sounds like Never Trumpers and Never-Again Trumpers are sort of mobilizing. This is not an affirmation that they will be successful though.

[dem4decades]

11. The Evangelicals will never vote for Pence. They favor a true religious man, Donald J Trump.

[dalton99a]

35. "I'm the chosen one." - Donald Trump, August 21, 2019

The real McCoy

[dem4decades]

37. They bought it, those pics of them with their heads bowed and hands on Trump.

It would be hilarious if it wasn't so scary.

[mucifer]

12. I bet he has plenty of corporate money to retire. he might just not want to be known in

history for supporting the coup.

he made a lot of money off supporting the cigarette industry.

[Etherealoc1]

13. Whaaaat..Pence?

[Emile]

15. I bet he knows the shit is about to hit the fan and

he is seeking cover.

[ProfessorGAC]

19. Same Thing I Said About Graham

They're pushing their boats away from that pier.
Do they know something nonpublic?

[orangecrush]

49. My thoughts exactly

The tea leaves point to that.

[SWBTATTReg]

16. I think, IMHO, that one could stick a fork in trump, and declare him to be done. He's over ...

and done w/ the political games and wants to go back into 'making money' by grifting his supporters. It's so easy for him to do so, so he'll continue to claim he's running again and again and again and again and again and again...forever, to keep pumping the well of campaign donations. This is one of the most insidious legal scams there is, no real authority in tracking what happens to campaign funds, and/or how they are spent, and afterwards, they can take the excess and run.

[Bev54]

18. The fact that some in the media are calling this an extraordinary moment

really bothers me. That is the fucking problem, it should not be extraordinary at all, it should just be. Doing and saying the right thing as so many have, he should be asked why it has taken him so bloody long just to say this.

[applegrove]

20. Right you are.

[ificandream]

23. I'm curious how the right-wing turds will see it...

... like Hannity and Carlson.

[Bev54]

26. I think we can all be assured they will tear Pence apart

even though Hannity knows well this is the case. Carlson, I have no idea if he even knows where his ass is.

[Mr. Ected]

24. Who exactly forms Pence's base? Evangelicals? The same ones that deified Trump?

After the RNC censure of Cheney and Kinzinger today and their announcement binding the Party to the notion that the election was, indeed, stolen, how exactly does Gallows Mike figure into the picture?

His political career is toast. He may have saved democracy, but instead of becoming a compelling national figure, he squandered even that - the "'Mother' of All Opportunities" - in the end.

[TlalocW]

25. He's running

But he's fooling himself, which is not uncommon on either side. You have to have a pretty healthy ego to run for president, but on the republican side, religious insanity is also part of it. Not every GOP candidate believes their own hype when they say some version of God has led them to this, but Pence does because God wants him to save us all from abortion and teh gayz. So not seeing that even outside of Trump's most ardent supporters, even republicans who agreed he did the right thing are still going to harbor animosity toward him.

TlalocW

[malaise]

27. Pence went even further according to the folks on Nicolle Wallace

He called the Slobfather unAmerican.
That is huge

[dalton99a]

36. Yep:

“Frankly there is no idea more un-American than the notion that any one person could choose the American president. Under the Constitution, I had no right to change the outcome of our election.”

[WarGamer]

29. quitting...

He'd be a 2%'er MAX in the Primary

In fact... I can't think of WHO his base would be??

[GoodRaisin]

31. tfg will throw a fit.

Should be a good one.

[ecstatic]

34. I'm glad he finally stood up to tfg

Long overdue. Hopefully he doesn't chicken out again.

[twodogsbarking]

38. What did he know and when.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

39. So they allowed the press in this time.

I wonder what Gorsuch said that necessitated a media blackout?

[AverageOldGuy]

40. Do you suppose . . .

. . . Pence is no longer on the Trump Family Christmas card list?

Is Pence asking for the normal Republicans to follow him?

Did "Mother" give him permission to say this?

All kidding aside, this is good news for the rest of the world, not such good news for the Trumpsters and the crazy people.

[Rebl2]

41. He says

he followed the constitution, yet he had to call former Vice President Quayle and ask if he could do what tfg wanted him to do. Why did he have to call Quayle? He should have known it’s wrong on his own.

[Kingofalldems]

42. Whoa Trump fans and even his top secret fans hating on Mike Pence.

GOP not having a good day with this and the great jobs report and the Jim Jordan/Trump Jan 6 phone calls .........

[ymetca]

44. Mike Pence is

the upside-down Bible, autographed by one Donald J. Trump.

[Uncle Joe]

45. I believe this means, it's highly probable that Pence is quitting politics,

an increased possibility that Trump will not run again but also an increased possibility that Trump will not be prosecuted by the Justice Dept.

I believe it's highly unlikely that Pence will testify unless he volunteers but for the sake of the nation, he should.

Thanks for the thread applegrove.

[applegrove]

47. De rien, Oncle Joe

[Uncle Joe]

48. As an aside,

You might like this dish applegrove.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1157111606

[LetMyPeopleVote]

46. Has TFG reacted to this yet?

Link to tweet

[live love laugh]

51. His presidential candidacy w/be a BIG was$te. nt

[Emile]

52. Mike Pence Chief of Staff Marc Short testified to the 1/6 committee. I think Pence

knows the truth is closing in and the house of cards is falling and he is covering his ass.

[Dorian Gray]

53. I think he's going to run

But I'm confused about one aspect. People are saying he's finally showing cojones and standing up to trump. But on Jan 6th LAST year, he did the thing. He's always maintained he didn't have that power. This isn't new. (What is new is the public venue for a publicized speech.)

[LetMyPeopleVote]

54. How about we all chip in and buy Mike Pence a cake?

Link to tweet