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Boom (Ginni and Clarence) (Original Post) deminks Feb 2022 OP
Republican thy name is hypocrisy. bullimiami Feb 2022 #1
This news is a long time comin'. Cracklin Charlie Feb 2022 #2
Resign already ..this is too much Etherealoc1 Feb 2022 #3
DeSatan over shithole . . . Lovie777 Feb 2022 #4
A few rays of sunshine on this travesty FINALLY Leghorn21 Feb 2022 #5
I smell a new House multigraincracker Feb 2022 #6
how do they get away with this shit Skittles Feb 2022 #7
Thomas has gotten away with this shit for decades. He's on the SC because he got away with this shit JHB Feb 2022 #15
I hear you Skittles Feb 2022 #30
"A black snake is still a snake." JHB Feb 2022 #31
wow Skittles Feb 2022 #32
Yup. Thurgood Marshall, who I was quoting there, had him down cold. JHB Feb 2022 #33
Danforth? LisaM Feb 2022 #43
Okay, I looked this up. LisaM Feb 2022 #44
Do you have a link? Because as far as I can tell, No. JHB Feb 2022 #47
See above. LisaM Feb 2022 #48
they have 1500 coordinated radio stations. limbaugh taught a generation of republicans dems are certainot Feb 2022 #20
They get together to coordinate and inspire? Bev54 Feb 2022 #8
THAT should disqualify Justice Thomas from any cases his wife has an interest in gratuitous Feb 2022 #9
Recuse from cases involving Florida/DeSantis? Captain Zero Feb 2022 #40
Post removed Post removed Feb 2022 #10
He needs to be impeached for sure. Kingofalldems Feb 2022 #11
This kind of stuff has been going on forever. dchill Feb 2022 #12
Uncle Slappy Has No Business Talking To Gov. DeathSentence... GB_RN Feb 2022 #13
I see who is the boss in his house and it ain't Mr Long D*** Silver! Ziggysmom Feb 2022 #14
We need protests demanding that Thomas resign for unethical behavior. Lonestarblue Feb 2022 #16
What am I missing here? Zeitghost Feb 2022 #17
Thomas: Hello Mr. Death Sentence, how are you doing? ... aggiesal Feb 2022 #24
Do you have any evidence of that happening? Zeitghost Feb 2022 #27
Let me look in my back pocket ... aggiesal Feb 2022 #34
All we know is Thomas has made some form of recent contact with Desantis. Zeitghost Feb 2022 #35
And the right did the same thing with RBG NewJeffCT Feb 2022 #42
Not sure why you are such a defender of this complete mediocrity MerryHolidays Feb 2022 #36
I'm a defender of facts Zeitghost Feb 2022 #37
Glad to know that you are on top of all of Ginni's shenanigans MerryHolidays Feb 2022 #39
He needs to be IMPEACHED, she needs to be brought before the Jan 6 Committee and asked turbinetree Feb 2022 #18
I'd love to see that happen. Karadeniz Feb 2022 #29
A what of what gathering? ShazzieB Feb 2022 #19
Thomas is a Republican political hack in robes. Hassler Feb 2022 #21
OHHHHH Biden should get another SC pick demtenjeep Feb 2022 #22
Are we truly surprised any more? Ever since Obama won in 2008, they have gone off the deep end AZLD4Candidate Feb 2022 #23
Indeed........ MyOwnPeace Feb 2022 #26
Neh Neh Neh - Nefarious! dchill Feb 2022 #25
Maybe it's time for Ginni Thomas BlueIdaho Feb 2022 #28
Anita Hill was right and she was shut down. Evolve Dammit Feb 2022 #38
"Cone of silence", you know, like Get Smart. It was a joke... elias7 Feb 2022 #41
Corruption rockfordfile Feb 2022 #45
They even make a portable version Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2022 #46

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
2. This news is a long time comin'.
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 05:08 PM
Feb 2022

About time someone reports on these fascists.

Please, please let there be more of this.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
5. A few rays of sunshine on this travesty FINALLY
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 05:14 PM
Feb 2022

Last edited Fri Feb 4, 2022, 07:29 PM - Edit history (1)

Someone pointed out that the GQPers were having a COW when they thought Justice Sotomayor was dining with Chuck Schumer a week or so ago

Yep, they sure were

laughing and crying here!!!!!

JHB

(37,160 posts)
15. Thomas has gotten away with this shit for decades. He's on the SC because he got away with this shit
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 06:31 PM
Feb 2022

Last edited Fri Feb 4, 2022, 09:50 PM - Edit history (1)

One item on his meager pre-SC federal jurist track record was a lawsuit between Ralston Purina and ALPO Petfoods.

Purina was founded by the grandfather of Senator John Danforth, Thomas' friend and political mentor, and at the time (late 80s, early 90s) he and his extended family were the major shareholders. A decision in the case favorable to Purina was worth millions to them.

Clarence Thomas wasn't concerned with the appearance of conflict of interest (much less actual conflict of interest) and did not recuse himself. The decision was in Purina's favor.

This should have kept him off the SC long before anyone had ever heard of Anita Hill, but it got glossed over like a lot of other things, and he's been a faithful operative of the extreme right while on the Court ever since.

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
30. I hear you
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 09:26 PM
Feb 2022

I remember the hearings - I remember thinking of the great Thurgood Marshall and wondering what he thought of that disgusting hack Thomas.

LisaM

(27,811 posts)
44. Okay, I looked this up.
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 02:13 PM
Feb 2022

The Quayles and Danforth families are friends. So Clarence Thomas is loosely connected to the Quayles, no surprise.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
47. Do you have a link? Because as far as I can tell, No.
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 08:54 PM
Feb 2022

In quick (~5min on Google) checking it's not clear why Danforth is is middle name. It doesn't derive from his grandparents.

LisaM

(27,811 posts)
48. See above.
Sun Feb 6, 2022, 08:15 AM
Feb 2022

The Danforths were family friends. (The "Dan" comes from his middle name). So there is a tenuous connection between Quayle and Thomas, but it's a thin one.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
20. they have 1500 coordinated radio stations. limbaugh taught a generation of republicans dems are
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 07:12 PM
Feb 2022

unamerican and can do nothing good and the cons can do nothing wrong, to the point where putin is better than any dem president

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
9. THAT should disqualify Justice Thomas from any cases his wife has an interest in
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 05:56 PM
Feb 2022

Let's see, who is the sole person on the planet with the unappealable and unchallengeable authority to recuse Justice Thomas?



Oh yeah. Never mind.

Response to deminks (Original post)

dchill

(38,493 posts)
12. This kind of stuff has been going on forever.
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 06:13 PM
Feb 2022

Did it suddenly become illegal? Whattya gonna do about it?

GB_RN

(2,355 posts)
13. Uncle Slappy Has No Business Talking To Gov. DeathSentence...
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 06:17 PM
Feb 2022

In any political/legal context. And his wife has not much more. Federal judicial ethics rules need...no MUST be applied to the SCOTUS. It's criminal that they are not.

Uncle Slappy should already have been impeached and convicted over his failure (for years) to report his wife's income on his financial declarations (his excuse that "I didn't know I had to" is pure BS).

Ziggysmom

(3,407 posts)
14. I see who is the boss in his house and it ain't Mr Long D*** Silver!
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 06:28 PM
Feb 2022

There is no doubt in my mind that he committed perjury in his confirmation hearings. This pitiful specimen of a man had no business on any bench, much less the Supreme Court.

Lonestarblue

(9,988 posts)
16. We need protests demanding that Thomas resign for unethical behavior.
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 06:33 PM
Feb 2022

Several of Trump’s first appointees had to resign because of ethics issues. Why shouldn’t an unethical SC justice be forced to do the same? Of course, he would never do that with Democrats in control of the Senate.

Zeitghost

(3,858 posts)
17. What am I missing here?
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 06:36 PM
Feb 2022

There is nothing illegal or improper about a Judge talking with a Governor or any other politician.

aggiesal

(8,914 posts)
24. Thomas: Hello Mr. Death Sentence, how are you doing? ...
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 07:39 PM
Feb 2022

Gov: Fine Justice Thomas. Listen I have a campaign contributor that has a case coming in front of SCOTUS. Can you help make sure that the decision is favorable for my contributor? I'm sure your wife's non-profit would get a nice hefty donation, if that happened.

Thomas: Sure, I know the case. I'll see what I can do.

Zeitghost

(3,858 posts)
27. Do you have any evidence of that happening?
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 08:02 PM
Feb 2022

It's not like SCotUS Justices are required to live as hermits. They are allowed to have friends and acquaintances.

aggiesal

(8,914 posts)
34. Let me look in my back pocket ...
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 09:58 PM
Feb 2022

Wait ... a judge should recuse themselves, not if they actually have a relationship with someone that might have an issue before the court, but just the appearance of a relationship.

Do you honestly believe that Justice Thomas would actually recuse himself, if a case dealing with Jan. 6th came before SCOTUS, while his wife's organization paid to bus people to the insurrection?

In 2004, Justice Antonin Scalia wrote an opinion declining to recuse himself in a case to which Vice President Dick Cheney was a party in his official capacity, despite the contention of several environmental groups that Scalia's participation created an appearance of impropriety because Scalia had recently participated in a widely publicized hunting trip with the Vice President. When Scalia went on the hunting trip, Cheney's case was either already on the SCOTUS docket or on track to be on the docket.

So you see, I don't really need proof, it just has to appear that it could be improper.
If the situation that I describe happens, where a case comes before SCOTUS of a contributor to DeathSantis, do you think Justice Thomas would recuse himself?

Zeitghost

(3,858 posts)
35. All we know is Thomas has made some form of recent contact with Desantis.
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 10:07 PM
Feb 2022

That's it. There is no case before the court, there is no financial interest involved. As I said above, a Justice is under no obligation not to talk to people because maybe some day they might bring a case before the court.

I don't like Thomas, his wife or the Gov. but this is a nothingburger.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
42. And the right did the same thing with RBG
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 08:11 AM
Feb 2022

saying that her speaking to pro-choice groups meant she should recuse herself on issues of abortion.

MerryHolidays

(7,715 posts)
36. Not sure why you are such a defender of this complete mediocrity
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 10:11 PM
Feb 2022

How many other SCOTUS justices have a spouse so involved in inflammatory political issues? Do you really think this is normal?

Zeitghost

(3,858 posts)
37. I'm a defender of facts
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 10:18 PM
Feb 2022

Thomas making contact with Desantis is a non-issue without a bunch of very pertinent details that do not exist outside the minds of some posters.

As for his wife's politics, she is entitled to speak and advocate as she pleases, the same as you and I. If a case directly involving her comes before the court, we will see what Thomas does. That so far has not happened.


If we found out Breyer's wife donated to planned parenthood and had made pro choice statements, would you expect him to recuse himself from the TX case?

turbinetree

(24,701 posts)
18. He needs to be IMPEACHED, she needs to be brought before the Jan 6 Committee and asked
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 06:39 PM
Feb 2022

how she became involved with people to go to the US Capital...to take down a duly elected government by voters....

ShazzieB

(16,399 posts)
19. A what of what gathering?
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 07:07 PM
Feb 2022

The penultimate sentence of Ginni's request concluded with this: "...we are a cone of silence gathering."

Way to make this "gathering" sound like some sneaky, sinister cabal, Ginni. And in fact, that's exactly what it seems to be. From Wikipedia:

A cabal is a group of people who are united in some close design, usually to promote their private views or interests in an ideology, a state, or another community, often by intrigue and usually unbeknownst to those who are outside their group. The use of this term usually carries negative connotations of political purpose, conspiracy and secrecy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabal


I guess "cone of silence" is meant to indicate confidentiality while avoiding "negative connotations of political purpose, conspiracy and secrecy."

Sorry, Ginni, it's not working for me!

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
28. Maybe it's time for Ginni Thomas
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 08:55 PM
Feb 2022

To resign from the Supreme Court. While she is at it she can take that weak kneed sock puppet with her.

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